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kam77
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10/16/2007  9:58 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by kam77:

The NETS have as good a shot at anyone too. Vince and RJ for Kobe and filler would be a good enough deal for Buss to take.

yeah, but it's Jersey man.

Kidd and Kobe is a worse situation than he has now?

It's Brooklyn baby.
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10/16/2007  10:03 PM
curry or randolph, lee, balkman, crawford, and picks is a better deal than terry howard and 2 picks IMO. but if the lakers got noah, gordon, nocioni, and ty thomas i think they have to take that.
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10/16/2007  10:09 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by kam77:

The NETS have as good a shot at anyone too. Vince and RJ for Kobe and filler would be a good enough deal for Buss to take.

yeah, but it's Jersey man.

Kidd and Kobe is a worse situation than he has now?

It's Brooklyn baby.

they ain't gonna be playing in NY for another year or 2... by that time Kobe will be a FA... so he gets traded to Jersey to play w/Kidd... they have no inside presence & won't be competitive w/just those 2... IMO, he'd have a much better shot of contending if he came to the Knicks for some of their young players instead of going to a Jersey team w/no Vince & no RJ.
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10/16/2007  10:13 PM
Posted by nyballer:

curry or randolph, lee, balkman, crawford, and picks is a better deal than terry howard and 2 picks IMO. but if the lakers got noah, gordon, nocioni, and ty thomas i think they have to take that.

Noah or Lee, who would u rather have? I'll take Lee
Gordon or Curry & Crawford? I think young C's like Curry are a lot more valuable than 20 ppg SG's in this league
Ty Thomas or Balkman? I'll take Balkman, contrary to the opinion of some of the more popular Ty Thomas fans on this forum
Nocioni or 1st round picks from NY? that's not even close... 1st round picks are always more valuable than any veteran role player

Why is Chicago's package so much more superior than anything the Knicks can offer? unless they throw in Luol Deng, i just don't see that much of a disparity.
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10/16/2007  10:21 PM
Posted by Ira:

http://thelakersnation.com/blog/

AM570: Reports out of Chicago say the Bulls can have Kobe Bryant if they are willing to give up 4-young players. The Lakers reportedly want Joachim Noah, Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni and Tyus Thomas and possibly a lst round draft pick.

hm. I thought the reason a LA-CHI deal didn't happen already was that LA wants Deng? Chi would be crazy not to do that deal
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10/16/2007  10:26 PM
I don't know where you guys are getting the idea that he's going to 'stinky onion' (chicago). There's barely, rarely any mention of it in the papers there, if any.
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10/16/2007  10:38 PM
Posted by TheGame:

I don't think they are going to trade him until December or January. It's Kobe, so it is not like they are going to lose leverage closer to the deadline because everyone will still want him. Winning solves alot of problems. They will probably see how the team does and if it is still average, they will then make a move. Chicago would top the list, but I still believe that we have assets that the Lakers would want. It will really depend on if we are winning. If the Knicks are a plus .500 team at the end of December, I would think that Kobe's and the Laker's interest in our players would increase significantly.

The only way to make a trade happen with us and the Lakers is 'there will have to be a few partial buyouts of contracts here, because that's the biggest obstacle with us. suckbury could be attractive, because of his last year, next season. Him and a few rooks could do the trick. Maybe even throwing in Curry might do it.' We have to consider that Kobe has about three, maybe four good (great) years left in him.

We can keep Zach, Lee, Collins, Balkman, Crawford and a few others to keep the nucleus intact and an outside - driving threat like Kobe is all we'd need. Buss knows he's a little limited here mainly because of how many good years Kobe has left and about three chances to make a run is all we would need to at least brings us back to a winning record, playoff possibilities and respectability. By the time Kobe's contract actually runs out, even if we didn't win it all, a lot of money would be freed up to go after another superstar. Do any of you see anything wrong with the contracts being an obsticle? Do you think this scenario will match up?
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10/16/2007  10:40 PM
Posted by Bobby:

kobe in chicago: living up to the mj standard.
bulls have solid players for this type of trade....it would not surprise me

We have some solid players too. The only problem is, as stated already, is the high contracts we have. It's not like we don't have a package to offer.
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10/16/2007  10:44 PM
Let me rimind you's that Kobe in chicago would not be good for us or the East. Remember, jordan didn't have any kind of a dominating center. jordan, like Kobe, was a all around threat. A couple of back up centers, not necessarily all star types, is all they would need and if they lost Deng, they can easily find backups. Don't push this chicago thing too much.
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10/16/2007  10:48 PM
I also think that if Kobe is destined to leave L.A. by the end of this season, then L.A. is basiccally going to have to rebuild. So if we can make a deal for them that would suite that scenario, then we should pitch that deal.
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10/16/2007  10:50 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by efw:

jeez, i don't think that's a very good deal for LA.


I agree. I can only guess that if this rumor was released it's to make teams that considered themselves out of the running think, "Gee, if that's all they're asking maybe we do have a shot at Kobe" and up their offers.


Are we forgetting he can opt out in less than 2yrs so the more you give up, the greater you increase the difficulty of his team winning it all, which means rental KOME. To be honest KOME's value isn't nor should be that high, he's a volatile and unpredictable player with a mind that can and will turn on you in a heartbeat.

Why do you keep calling him KOME? That doesn't even make any sense.
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4949
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10/16/2007  10:52 PM
Posted by kam77:

BUT if we start winning and begin the year strong, I think Kobe will re-consider us. Its better for the Lakers to get more teams in the EAST involved in the bidding. So we have to do our best to convince Kobe that not only are we gonna be good, we'll have enough left to surround him with in the East to be an NBA finalist.

I like this scenario very much. So do I think about having faith again in this teams ability to be better? It's a very hard thing to do. I hope so. There's my optimisn sticking a little. Damn.
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10/16/2007  10:57 PM
Posted by Ira:

http://thelakersnation.com/blog/

AM570: Reports out of Chicago say the Bulls can have Kobe Bryant if they are willing to give up 4-young players. The Lakers reportedly want Joachim Noah, Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni and Tyus Thomas and possibly a lst round draft pick.

SOURCE? There are no' big reports in chicago about Kobe going to chicago!!!
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10/17/2007  12:25 AM
Lets just say that ESPN is reporting that he didnt clena out his locker and missed the last three practices. I will venture to say the locker is cleaned out
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10/17/2007  12:27 AM
Lets just say that ESPN is reporting that he didnt clena out his locker and missed the last three practices. I will venture to say the locker is cleaned out
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10/17/2007  1:17 AM
Who's he getting traded to?
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10/17/2007  4:41 AM
Supposedly, Chicago, but who knows. Most of these kinds of rumors don't pan out. But it'll be more interesting in the East if this one does.
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10/17/2007  7:58 AM
4949: I think we probably made an offer and it was rejected based on what has been printed the past few days.
This is extraordinary: The best player in the NBA takes a look at the landscape at the Garden and says, "No, thanks. Too crazy for me."

This is the word coming out of the Kobe camp, as I wrote in today's paper. It won't be stunning if the Knicks aren't able to trade for Kobe. It was always a longshot from the beginning. But the fact that he is ready to thumb his nose at what used to be the most honored stage in basketball is, quite honestly, sickening.

It should sicken every Knick fan out there and make you reevaluate the direction of your franchise.

As has been the case since Bryant first requested a trade back in May, he holds all the power. He has a no-trade clause (the only player in the NBA with one) and an opt-out clause after the 2008-09 season. After Lakers owner Jerry Buss made it clear he's ready to say good-bye in an interview this week, it appears more likely than ever that Kobe will be traded.

The Bulls and Mavericks are the new 1 and 1a in the Kobe sweepstakes. The Knicks are not on the list, in part because Bryant believes there wouldn't be enough talent left after the trade. Mostly, though, the message that Kobe is sending out through intermediaries is that he believes the situation at the Garden is too chaotic.
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10/17/2007  9:20 AM
Maybe he wants to go somewhere where he can screw the interns and not have to testify about it in court. No one has thought of that?


Posted by Queeniepop:
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But the fact that he is ready to thumb his nose at what used to be the most honored stage in basketball is, quite honestly, sickening.
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I never understand why people say things like this. Wouldn't Boston be the most honored stage, with all their dynasties? And Lakers runner up? What in NY basketball's history puts it above Boston? If you were talkin baseball, then yes...

[Edited by - panos on 17-10-2007 09:21 AM]
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10/17/2007  3:10 PM
Posted by Panos:

Maybe he wants to go somewhere where he can screw the interns and not have to testify about it in court. No one has thought of that?


Posted by Queeniepop:
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But the fact that he is ready to thumb his nose at what used to be the most honored stage in basketball is, quite honestly, sickening.
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I never understand why people say things like this. Wouldn't Boston be the most honored stage, with all their dynasties? And Lakers runner up? What in NY basketball's history puts it above Boston? If you were talkin baseball, then yes...

[Edited by - panos on 17-10-2007 09:21 AM]


New York is the Mecca of Basketball, and MSG is the Great Stone.

Seriously... MSG has been home to many a College BBall Tourney and has attained fame as a place to come and show your stuff. Opponents often speak of how they get UP to play in the Garden.. Not the Boston Garden in front of some racist crowd.
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