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10/9/2007  2:55 PM
Ummm, you guys do realize Curry was double teamed every offensive possesion last year right? During that 13 some odd game stretch he was triple teamed because there was no Crawford to hit the open 3. Just so you know.
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10/9/2007  2:57 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Ummm, you guys do realize Curry was double teamed every offensive possesion last year right? During that 13 some odd game stretch he was triple teamed because there was no Crawford to hit the open 3. Just so you know.

Oh, I forgot. How silly of me. Thanks for reminding me that Eddy Curry is the only player in the history of the NBA to get double teamed. Not to mention that his double teaming on offense very well explains his terrible defense. Makes sense. It couldn't be that Curry coughed the ball up so much that teams realized it was an effective tactic? Nah, that can't be it.
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10/9/2007  2:59 PM
And they make regular All-Star appearances.
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if anyone uses fantasy sports to judge a player is nuts... I had rasho nesterovic as my center one year in fantasy and he wasn't bad.
Would get 11 points, 2 blocks and about 6 or 7 boards, solid fantasy wise and rarely turned it over. But if you watched the game, he was atrocious at times, and often beat like a drum by the guy he was guarding. I remember popovich basically calling him a scrub one time, on TV.... LOL..
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10/9/2007  3:03 PM
Posted by subzero0:

Ummm, you guys do realize Curry was double teamed every offensive possesion last year right? During that 13 some odd game stretch he was triple teamed because there was no Crawford to hit the open 3. Just so you know.

LOL @ thinking the only pass that can be made out of a double or triple team has to be to a teammate spotted up for a 3 or a perimeter player in general for the matter. If he had 3 men guarding him all the time towards the backhalf of the season as you'd like us to believe, surely there's a teammmate(s) within layup range of the basket in many of those cases. He's a slow thinker, blackhole, low IQ player who doesn't see the floor well THE END!



[Edited by - Trueblue on 10-09-2007 2:15 PM]
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10/9/2007  3:12 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by subzero0:

Ummm, you guys do realize Curry was double teamed every offensive possesion last year right? During that 13 some odd game stretch he was triple teamed because there was no Crawford to hit the open 3. Just so you know.

Oh, I forgot. How silly of me. Thanks for reminding me that Eddy Curry is the only player in the history of the NBA to get double teamed. Not to mention that his double teaming on offense very well explains his terrible defense. Makes sense. It couldn't be that Curry coughed the ball up so much that teams realized it was an effective tactic? Nah, that can't be it.

Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.
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10/9/2007  3:16 PM
Posted by subzero0:


Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)
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Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by subzero0:

Ummm, you guys do realize Curry was double teamed every offensive possesion last year right? During that 13 some odd game stretch he was triple teamed because there was no Crawford to hit the open 3. Just so you know.

LOL @ thinking the only pass that can be made out of a double or triple team has to be to a teammate spotted up for a 3 or a perimeter player in general for the matter. If he had 3 men guarding him as you'd like us to believe surely there's a teammmate(s) within layup range of the basket in many cases. He's a slow thinker, blackhole, low IQ player who doesn't see the floor well THE END!

[Edited by - Trueblue on 10-09-2007 2:08 PM]

I am not ASKING you to believe anything, just look at the games. Also, I am assuming you know basketball so I should not have to remind you that when you double team a low post scorer and the team your playing cannot shoot then you clog up the middle so that no one cuts and hope that teams misses open shots.

But ofcourse, you knew that.

[Edited by - subzero0 on 10-09-2007 3:29 PM]
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10/9/2007  3:17 PM
Eddy Curry had the second most turnovers in the entire league among centers. He had the fifth most overall. This is adding to the worst assist to turnover ratio in the entire league. These numbers are not an accident. Double teams do affect players for sure, but Eddy Curry was affected the worst by them, it seems.
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10/9/2007  3:26 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by subzero0:


Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.
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10/9/2007  3:31 PM
Posted by Solace:

Eddy Curry had the second most turnovers in the entire league among centers. He had the fifth most overall. This is adding to the worst assist to turnover ratio in the entire league. These numbers are not an accident. Double teams do affect players for sure, but Eddy Curry was affected the worst by them, it seems.

I agree. Hopefully his conditioning is better this year. If this is the case than his quicker reflexes will result in less turnovers... hopefully.
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10/9/2007  3:45 PM
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Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.


So its the rest of our team's fault, not Curry. Other teams recover fast enough, ours doesn't. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing up my confusion! So happy you're here to explain every thing (or shall I say make excuses for everything).
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10/9/2007  4:27 PM
Posted by Panos:
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Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.


So its the rest of our team's fault, not Curry. Other teams recover fast enough, ours doesn't. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing up my confusion! So happy you're here to explain every thing (or shall I say make excuses for everything).

You seem to be more confused than ever. Look at my responses to Solace where I admitted that Curry not being in good condition led to his high turn over ratio on OFFENSE. Our team not recovering to three point shooters is when we play DEFENSE.

Do you need me to explain the deference between offense and defense, left and right, up and down?



[Edited by - subzero0 on 10-09-2007 4:28 PM]
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Posted by subzero0:
Posted by Panos:
Posted by subzero0:
Posted by Panos:
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Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.


So its the rest of our team's fault, not Curry. Other teams recover fast enough, ours doesn't. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing up my confusion! So happy you're here to explain every thing (or shall I say make excuses for everything).

You seem to be more confused than ever. Look at my responses to Solace where I admitted that Curry not being in good condition led to his high turn over ratio on OFFENSE. Our team not recovering to three point shooters is when we play DEFENSE.

Do you need me to explain the deference between offense and defense, left and right, up and down?



[Edited by - subzero0 on 10-09-2007 4:28 PM]


What are you an f'in clown?! Should double/triple teams be an effective DEFENSE or not?!
If so, why can't we do it on DEFENSE? If not, why does it work on Curry when we are on OFFENSE?
WHAT IS SO CONFUSING ABOUT THAT?


[Edited by - panos on 09-10-2007 4:45 PM]
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Posted by Panos:
Posted by subzero0:
Posted by Panos:
Posted by subzero0:
Posted by Panos:
Posted by subzero0:


Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.


So its the rest of our team's fault, not Curry. Other teams recover fast enough, ours doesn't. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing up my confusion! So happy you're here to explain every thing (or shall I say make excuses for everything).

You seem to be more confused than ever. Look at my responses to Solace where I admitted that Curry not being in good condition led to his high turn over ratio on OFFENSE. Our team not recovering to three point shooters is when we play DEFENSE.

Do you need me to explain the deference between offense and defense, left and right, up and down?



[Edited by - subzero0 on 10-09-2007 4:28 PM]


What are you an f'in clown?! Should double/triple teams be an effective DEFENSE or not?!
If so, why can't we do it on DEFENSE? If not, why does it work on Curry when we are on OFFENSE?
WHAT IS SO CONFUSING ABOUT THAT?


[Edited by - panos on 09-10-2007 4:45 PM]

Wow your thick bro. Im going to do with with bullet points so that you can understand.

-- Double/triple teams are only effective when you are against a team that cannot shoot from the outside.
-- We cannot do this on defense to other teams that shoot well.
-- It worked on Curry because last season we COULD NOT SHOOT FROM THE OUTSIDE.

If this still cannot get through I would suggest you seek professional help.


[Edited by - subzero0 on 10-09-2007 5:06 PM]
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Eddy will be great when his presence will win games.
So far his presence was guaranty for losing games. And not only for the Knicks.
There are a lot of ways of being useful and contribute to the team. Eddy and IT never found one yet.
But hey - they will keep trying... And we will keep our FANTASIES about the wins going...




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Panos, subzero0....I realize you are both passionate about your views. Please try to keep your discussion respectful.

Stuff like this we'd like to do without. Otherwise...carry on.
What are you an f'in clown?!

Wow your thick bro.
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Well, my only point is that when your double and tripled teamed every play it results in a lot of turnovers. This is especially the case when your weak side cannot shoot. It really makes the whole game unbalanced. We got Randolph, we got Q back, and we got Chandler. That should take care of the weak side.

Wow! What a brilliant strategy! Maybe we should double/triple team some players on the other team and force a turn over or two?! Why does that always result in the other team burying a 3-pter?
Posted by subzero0:

Also, Curry didnt play defense because he was told not to stand in the way of drivers coming to the hoop. Why you ask? So that he could stay out of foul trouble. Surely, you remember his year under Larry Brown. This however, is a necessary evil until Curry is able to slide his feet a little better and stay in front of drivers. He looks to be in better shape this year and we have more options for the low post now, so he may surprise you with more defense.

Curry standing in the way of drivers = fouls. Hmm. I thought that was an offensive foul.
Did he actually raise his arms in those plays? Attempt a block?! (gasp)


Our players dont recover fast enough after they double, thats why we got killed by the three. That has nothing to do with Curry, so I fail to see your point. You seem to be more than a little confused right now, so maybe you should push the new topic button on the previous page and take out your frustrations there.

Next, the referees never call charging fouls on a 6-11 260+ (or whatever his weight and height are) guy. They mostly call a blocking foul. Curry, again because of poor conditioning, does not have good timing on blocking shots. So that is something I will be looking for as an improvement this year.

Now for fantasy basketball this stuff is great to discuss. But to apply fantasy basketball logic to a REAL GAME doesnt make sense because the two statistics do not map to each other. This is why basketball is played on a court and not on graphing paper.


So its the rest of our team's fault, not Curry. Other teams recover fast enough, ours doesn't. Gotcha! Thanks for clearing up my confusion! So happy you're here to explain every thing (or shall I say make excuses for everything).

Eddy's had a ton of turnovers and no assists on every roster he's ever played on. The problem is him not whoever his current teammates are.
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