Posted by knixphan:

As much as I question Allan's knees, I can't have him as a net - It would open some sort of rift in the time-space continuum. He won't be on the court long enough to hurt the team, so let him come back for some player-coaching.

"Fred Jones has looked really good and we want the best players," said Thomas, who drafted Jones for the Pacers in 2002. "We're not necessarily looking two or three years down the road."

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Panos:

There is one poster suspiciously absent from this discussion.

nixluva, what do you have to say about this? In particular, the following quote:

"Fred Jones has looked really good and we want the best players," said Thomas, who drafted Jones for the Pacers in 2002. "We're not necessarily looking two or three years down the road."

I almost didn't even read this thread. Don't assume that if I don't comment on a thread it's out of fear of addressing some issue. I don't read every thread.

I think Isiah feels he's close. He's reported to have said he thinks he's very close to where he wants this team to be. Maybe one more good player away. Who know exactly how he sees the team. If he feels Nichols is too far away to commit to at this time, then that's how he feels. I personally want to keep Nichols. I feel we lack deadeye shooting and I like his size and length too. I feel that if a Jason Kapono can make it, then why not Nichols, who I think has more to his game.

The thing is that when you have other concerns, not purely BB related, but financial, you tend to make bad calls. I don't like that we will keep Malik and Jerome around when they really aren't part of the future here. If it was up to me, i'd buyout both of them and insure that I could keep the young talent and see what they develop into.

Your posting needs to start reflecting you have no idea what I SAY UGH is thinking. You have commented on more than several occasions I SAY UGH is building towards a 5-7yr plan, which implies stockpiling young talent that will compete yr after yr for that stretch of time. Face it one who HOMERS this team can't feel a real pulse on this team because I SAY UGH'S move don't make sense. HATERS have been saying for aeons I SAY UGH is running this team without a clear plan and one that has changed courses numerous times since he's arrived.

Jones will probably make the team because he was one of I SAY UGH'S favorites during his time with the Pacers,

Jeffries was given a full MLE deal when no one else would touch him with a ten ft pole because of he and I SAY UGH'S pedigree at Indiana University,

Jerome James was starting games ahead of David Lee because I SAY UGH was thinking about 6th man awards,

Marbury is still here because he's been officially adopted by I SAY UGH,

Houston will be signed because Dolan hasn't got over his mancrush for him,

Randolph Morris was signed because I SAY UGH refuses to get in Curry's grill to play defense.


There's no rhyme or reason with the FRAUD coach/gm/president we have.

YOu really believe Isiah wants Houston on this team?

Posted by JohnWallace44:

I love Nichols, huge SU fan obviously... but we only have the dude signed for a year. Maybe he is the odd man out. Maybe that's the right call. We have like 20 players on the roster now.

Posted by Vmart:

H20's knees won't make it through the camp, if he does make it through the camp then he will be doing the thing he did in the past which is shoot the ball with consistency which is a good thing for the Knicks because they were lacking in the outside shooting dept. last year. Besides if he doesn't make it through the camp look for the Knicks to give hima front office job which eventually will lead to the President of the Knicks job.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Panos:

There is one poster suspiciously absent from this discussion.

nixluva, what do you have to say about this? In particular, the following quote:

"Fred Jones has looked really good and we want the best players," said Thomas, who drafted Jones for the Pacers in 2002. "We're not necessarily looking two or three years down the road."

I almost didn't even read this thread. Don't assume that if I don't comment on a thread it's out of fear of addressing some issue. I don't read every thread.

I think Isiah feels he's close. He's reported to have said he thinks he's very close to where he wants this team to be. Maybe one more good player away. Who know exactly how he sees the team. If he feels Nichols is too far away to commit to at this time, then that's how he feels. I personally want to keep Nichols. I feel we lack deadeye shooting and I like his size and length too. I feel that if a Jason Kapono can make it, then why not Nichols, who I think has more to his game.

The thing is that when you have other concerns, not purely BB related, but financial, you tend to make bad calls. I don't like that we will keep Malik and Jerome around when they really aren't part of the future here. If it was up to me, i'd buyout both of them and insure that I could keep the young talent and see what they develop into.

Your posting needs to start reflecting you have no idea what I SAY UGH is thinking. You have commented on more than several occasions I SAY UGH is building towards a 5-7yr plan, which implies stockpiling young talent that will compete yr after yr for that stretch of time. Face it one who HOMERS this team can't feel a real pulse on this team because I SAY UGH'S move don't make sense. HATERS have been saying for aeons I SAY UGH is running this team without a clear plan and one that has changed courses numerous times since he's arrived.

Jones will probably make the team because he was one of I SAY UGH'S favorites during his time with the Pacers,

Jeffries was given a full MLE deal when no one else would touch him with a ten ft pole because of he and I SAY UGH'S pedigree at Indiana University,

Jerome James was starting games ahead of David Lee because I SAY UGH was thinking about 6th man awards,

Marbury is still here because he's been officially adopted by I SAY UGH,

Houston will be signed because Dolan hasn't got over his mancrush for him,

Randolph Morris was signed because I SAY UGH refuses to get in Curry's grill to play defense.


There's no rhyme or reason with the FRAUD coach/gm/president we have.

I just got back home and of course I would expect that you'd have some kind of crap to say. F U TrueBlue! Don't freakin tell me what my thoughts are. If you have a team that has most of it's key players 25 and under then you ARE TALKING ABOUT A 5 yr PLAN. I never said he's building "towards" a 5yr plan as if he hadn't yet started. We're already in yr 3 of what i've described over and over again as Isiah's process of retooling with youth. So now you're gonna try to make it sound like I don't know what i'm talking about cuz of one statement. You're the one who needs to learn something about building a team. I'm getting tired of you trying to make me sound like a fool. I'm not an idiot so stop talking about me like I am.

For one thing you don't just perpetually add youth for no reason. Once you get to a certain point with your roster, there's no benefit to adding more and more young players. It's more important that you get guys who fit your needs and i'm not talking about our perceived needs for the team, but Isiah's. He's the one that has a vision for what players he thinks he needs to make this work. We can disagree with him, but he's gonna do what he feels is right. So if it just so happens that the player who fits your needs is a young kid fresh out of college then so be it. However, if there's a guy that can fill a need you have, but he's a young vet, then you get him. I don't like the idea of H2O, but i'm not convinced that it's his idea to bring him in. If he let's Nichols go, I won't be happy, but that's not a sign that he's somehow changed direction again or that he doesn't know what he's doing. It's judgement call based on how he sees the pieces fitting and only he knows what he's looking to do this year.

You're not at Knicks practice so you don't know what he's seeing and how that could effect the choices he makes. Until he's actually DONE SOMETHING, can we hold off on judging him based on RUMORS. DAMN!!! I'm so tired of you and your crap. Get freakin life.

Why do we perpetually add guards and small forwards on this team?

You have no idea what his plan is and why he makes the decision he makes, that was my main point. No one really does. You can't say "if Houston makes the team then it must mean I SAY UGH feels we're closer," you have no idea. It could mean Dolan told him to get Houston, it could mean I SAY UGH respects vets more than young talent, he wants to give Houston one last chance to prove himself, he doesn't want another Eastern Conference team to sign him.... etc etc.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-06-2007 6:26 PM]