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BasketballJones
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10/5/2007  1:10 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I wonder what the homers imagine it would be like if everyone just talked about how wonderful the Knicks are and how bright the future is all the time. I think things would get pretty boring around here.

Almost 90% of this website bashes the Knicks even during the positive times. You act like we have no future. Like anything that Isiah puts on the court is bound not to work. It's sad.

Which positive times are you referring to?
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10/5/2007  1:15 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

The Knicks suck.

4 years later....

5 different head coaches, 500 million in wasted salaries, buyouts, poor coaching hires, bad trades, bad FA signings, sexual harassment lawsuits, our cracked out point guard making the tv rounds, and not a single playoff win....

You'd think after 4 years of Isiah's shucking and jiving, we'd have at least one player in our starting lineup who wasn't some other teams unwanted trash. Is Marbury, Curry, and Randolph the best Isiah can do? Ehhhh gad.
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Cookdcokehop
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10/5/2007  1:24 PM
Maybe I'm just a positive person. Maybe I should have no faith in my franchise like my fellow UK posters. Yea Yea thats it. I am going to bash them on the internet till they finally get rid of all the players that Isiah got and bring in new rookies to become the face of the franchise and sit and watch to see my team not win for about 10 more yrs.
BasketballJones
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10/5/2007  1:27 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Maybe I'm just a positive person. Maybe I should have no faith in my franchise like my fellow UK posters. Yea Yea thats it. I am going to bash them on the internet till they finally get rid of all the players that Isiah got and bring in new rookies to become the face of the franchise and sit and watch to see my team not win for about 10 more yrs.

One point that gets lost in these meta-discussions is that the season hasn't started yet. All the current talk whether positive or negative is more or less irrelevant until the season begins.

I've seen plenty of positive remarks on this site when the Knicks play well. The over-all trend has been negative for a few years, so it isn't surprising that many fans here (and on the radio and elsewhere) are negative over all.

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martin
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10/5/2007  1:32 PM
this whole site could have been about Alba and her hot friends but instead he have all this hate. All because of 1 unheard comment.
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10/5/2007  1:32 PM
Posted by brav1212:

My point exactly..has anyone pointed to the positive aspects at all of the post? You just confirmed my point..thanks. As I said, there is alot of positivity about the team. I would hope that as this team starts winning this negativity will go away..but it won't. The sad thing is that all the haters will forget what they said about the team..as if they were there all along...now when the team is bad they are bad, so I do expect to hear complaints and negativity on fact..but I have seen nothing but speculative negativity..the expectation thereof..so I will do my part..hopefully I will see the real fans step up to the plate.

Hey man.
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10/5/2007  1:33 PM
Posted by martin:

this whole site could have been about Alba and her hot friends but instead he have all this hate. All because of 1 unheard comment.

You mean we could have had more pictures of Alba and her hot friends if not for your mumbling?

DAMN YOU!!!
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10/5/2007  1:39 PM
Negativity begates negativity..so those of you that choose to be positive about a year that is not on record, but looks promising, please continue to be...those that choose to hate..do so. The funny thing is if the Nets or some other team would have gotten Zach for nothing..you would have said..why couldn't Isaiah do that? Or if we got Garnett, you would say that he is probably damaged goods and Mchale is not telling us something. So I realize my desire to have more positivity than negative is probably asking too much..Guess I HATE seeing people on the bandwagon..cause as soon as our record indicates change..you will all pull your NY jerseys out...Leave them in the closet..or better yet, don't even buy one. Any other real Knick fans heading to Carolina for the game on Monday? Lemme know.
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10/5/2007  1:42 PM
I hate because I care.

118-181, five coache, and slime is what we have in the Isiah era.

What is positive? What is tangable? Zach brings what? Wins? Forget heart, forget hope, the only thing tangable is wins.

Real haters are not here. They gave up, they root against us, we care enough to bitch and moan. We are on the bandwagon and don't like the stench! I will get my NBA pass, see a few games this year, and root like hell for them to win.

Ultimate does not mean some cheesey fan love site, ultimate is what you make it. Nobody roots against them, they just want to win like the lovers.

But I don't like Isiah and I don't like what he stands for.

I don't like dolan and I don't like his values.

One black, one white one hate.

[Edited by - nalod on 05-10-2007 1:45 PM]
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10/5/2007  1:49 PM
Nalod you sound like a fence rider, you will give Isiah props if they start winning and sound stupid trying to find fault by complaining, or you will get out your hunting shotgun and hunt him down if they continue to lose.

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Nalod
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10/5/2007  1:52 PM
Posted by playa2:

Nalod you sound like a fence rider, you will give Isiah props if they start winning and sound stupid trying to find fault by complaining, or you will get out your hunting shotgun and hunt him down if they continue to lose.

I see you with your posse

Must be a hello of a slow day when I got Playa trying to disect and analyze my commitment to hate.

I just said I don't like Isiah. I root for the team.

Trust me I will never give props to him.

But this brings up a good point: its gonna be hard to digest Isiah if they start winning!

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10/5/2007  1:52 PM
It's also not ultimatecrybabiesbecauseeveryonedoesnotloveeverythingtheknicksdo.com
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10/5/2007  1:53 PM
Posted by Nalod:

I hate because I care.

118-181, five coache, and slime is what we have in the Isiah era.

What is positive? What is tangable? Zach brings what? Wins? Forget heart, forget hope, the only thing tangable is wins.

Real haters are not here. They gave up, they root against us, we care enough to bitch and moan. We are on the bandwagon and don't like the stench! I will get my NBA pass, see a few games this year, and root like hell for them to win.

Ultimate does not mean some cheesey fan love site, ultimate is what you make it. Nobody roots against them, they just want to win like the lovers.

But I don't like Isiah and I don't like what he stands for.

I don't like dolan and I don't like his values.

One black, one white one hate.

[Edited by - nalod on 05-10-2007 1:45 PM]

I root against them.
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10/5/2007  1:53 PM
Posted by VDesai:

It's also not ultimatecrybabiesbecauseeveryonedoesnotloveeverythingtheknicksdo.com

I own that domain name.
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BasketballJones
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10/5/2007  1:54 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by playa2:

Nalod you sound like a fence rider, you will give Isiah props if they start winning and sound stupid trying to find fault by complaining, or you will get out your hunting shotgun and hunt him down if they continue to lose.

I see you with your posse

Must be a hello of a slow day when I got Playa trying to disect and analyze my commitment to hate.

I just said I don't like Isiah. I root for the team.

Trust me I will never give props to him.

But this brings up a good point: its gonna be hard to digest Isiah if they start winning!

You're gonna have to create a new account with the name Haisi.
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10/5/2007  2:01 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

What is all this lover talk? I am not a lover. I am a realist.

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Why is it that every guy who claims to be a "realist" is totally out of whack with reality??

Um ok would you mind elaborating on how I am totally out of whack with reality?

the fact that you go on hopes, expectations and predictions of the team being improved is what's strange about calling yourself a realist. you can't be a realist if all you're basing your opinion on hasn't happened yet.

you're entitled to your opinion by all means, but if you present it as reality, you'll take some shots.
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I wonder what the homers imagine it would be like if everyone just talked about how wonderful the Knicks are and how bright the future is all the time. I think things would get pretty boring around here.

Almost 90% of this website bashes the Knicks even during the positive times. You act like we have no future. Like anything that Isiah puts on the court is bound not to work. It's sad.

nowhere near 90% of the regular posters are negative. i don't know how close to even it is, but it's nowhere near as one-sided as you're making it out to be.
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10/5/2007  2:01 PM
As the wise man bippity once said:

"I don't have to cheer these players to prove I'm a Knicks fan, they have to play hard to prove they are knicks".

Bip was right once again.
BasketballJones
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10/5/2007  2:03 PM
Bip is right once again.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 10-05-2007 14:03]
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brav1212
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10/5/2007  2:13 PM
I second that opinion..fence rider for sure...u hate cause you care..what kind of #$%# is that? I should try that with the ladies.."I hate cause I care. OMG
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10/5/2007  2:16 PM
Posted by brav1212:

I second that opinion..fence rider for sure...u hate cause you care..what kind of #$%# is that? I should try that with the ladies.."I hate cause I care. OMG

Actually the Ladies have been doing that for years. But it isn't called hate its called nagging.
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