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arkrud
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9/21/2007  10:36 PM
Posted by Papabear:

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Hey Hey Stop it Stop it!! Imus had years and years making a living on calling people names like bitches and uncle Tom and other names. Now you are trying to compare Zeke to him??? I don't think so. Hey when I hear a rap song and a brother is calling a girl a bitch I don't like it. The same way if a black man called me a niga. Now if a white man called me a niga it would be more offensive. If a white guy called a black sister a bitch it would bother me more. Zeke said he found the word offensive no matter who said it but all you Zeke hatters continue to leave that out.
And one other thing, Black folk don't own the major record companies. I'll tell you one thing though and this is said not to critize the Jewish people. If one of thier own made rap records calling Jews a name equal to calling someone a niga, he would be history. This is a compliment to the Jewish people they stick together. When black rappers first started using the words nigga and bitch we should have stopped then in thier tracks. Some of us tried but the white folks owned the record companies and they was getting paid big time.
Isiah ain't no Imus and who ever tried to compare him to Imus is a very sick Zeke Hatter and an Imus Lover.

Papabear

I agree that people cannot make same jokes and statements in any company.
That’s why people have head - to think where they are and what they say.
Looks like Steph and IT lost their mind somewhere along the way.
It happened with celebs all over the place.
It is for their sake time to stop them on their tracks before it's too late.






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9/21/2007  11:41 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Let’s make it clear.
We have 2 men representing the Knicks team and indirectly us - NY fans.
They have no respect for woman, no tact for racial stuff; no clue how to represent themselves and organization in public. On top of this they never achieve anything with the Knicks.
Why they are still around?
And why is anybody still supporting them?

Those are all great points and questions
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9/22/2007  12:00 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear says

Hey Hey Stop it Stop it!! Imus had years and years making a living on calling people names like bitches and uncle Tom and other names. Now you are trying to compare Zeke to him??? I don't think so. Hey when I hear a rap song and a brother is calling a girl a bitch I don't like it. The same way if a black man called me a niga. Now if a white man called me a niga it would be more offensive. If a white guy called a black sister a bitch it would bother me more. Zeke said he found the word offensive no matter who said it but all you Zeke hatters continue to leave that out.
And one other thing, Black folk don't own the major record companies. I'll tell you one thing though and this is said not to critize the Jewish people. If one of thier own made rap records calling Jews a name equal to calling someone a niga, he would be history. This is a compliment to the Jewish people they stick together. When black rappers first started using the words nigga and bitch we should have stopped then in thier tracks. Some of us tried but the white folks owned the record companies and they was getting paid big time.
Isiah ain't no Imus and who ever tried to compare him to Imus is a very sick Zeke Hatter and an Imus Lover.

Papabear


The point Papabear is missing is that he didn't need to offer up his opinion or his feelings on the issue because it wasn't asked of him initially.

I think the main point Papabear is missing is that Hill isn't saying Isiah is "as bad or worse" than Imus, whatever that means. She is saying that, since Isiah is an influential African American, the destructive impact of his statements on the African American community is greater.
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9/22/2007  12:07 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I think if Isiah called her a bitch, that's awful. I don't have a problem with him saying it was "less offensive" for a black to call a black that name. He was giving his honest opinion and he even acknowledged it was an opinion he felt uncomfortable with. (I think he said something along the lines of he was "sorry to say" he felt that way.) It was poor judgment to say this publicly, though. You should deal with your own issues in private. The "less offensive" comment is not criminal by any means though!

I agree with this but never would have said that publicly. Some things are not for everyoe to know, and become divisive.

I think with the Imus thing, and people making the comparison, they are missing some very important things:

1. Imus was on National TV (kids could have heard what he said, millions of people heard it)
2. Imus is a respected guy by many politicians and listeners, he is a tastemaker, he influences people in terms of how to frame current events and who to vote for, what book to buy, he is someone to be taken seriously (at times).
3. Isiah is a basketbal coach, he plays an administrative role in a bball team, no one cares what he says or thinks about things.
4. What Imus said was both sexist and racist, while what Isiah said was sexist. Because of the history of this country, racism is a much bigger deal than sexism is.
6. The desire to have someone held accountable the way Imus was, showcases a vindictiveness that has its roots elsewhere. The folks who get amped about comparing this (or anything) to Imus aren't feminist's who champion women's rights, so where exactly does the motivation come from? How is it that now we have all of these guys taking a position on sexism as if they were members of NOW (National Organization for Women)? Does anybody want to take a stab at why this is so?

But lastly, Imus lost his job as a result of several things not just one. Its not like he said it and then he gets fired. Political pressure was applied, and his sponsors did not want to be associated with the controversy (as always happens) and they pulled out. Also many coworkers (on MSNBC) of his spoke out either in favor of them releasing him, or other coworkers who were his friends remained silent. All of this added pressure to the general public shock and outrage. Race is a hot button issue. Which is what makes what Isiah said so incredibly dumb, although I totally understand where hes coming from.

Let me put it like this: If Isiah worked for a show that was held afloat by sponsors, and women's organizations came out against him with force, and friends and coworkers were silent or called for his ouster, things would just like they were for Imus.

Now for context you guys should read this article, its really really good from TIME (they end up making many of the points I made):
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1609490-4,00.html
Imus argued repeatedly that his critics should consider the "context" of his larger life...what determines who can make what jokes is the context of their work: the tone of their acts, the personas they present, the vehicles they create for their work.

That context is not as kind to Imus. He comes out of the shock jock tradition, but all shock jocks are not created equal. If Opie & Anthony or Mancow had made the "nappy-headed" comment, it wouldn't have been a blip because future Presidents do not do cable-news interviews with Opie & Anthony and Mancow.

and I think thats the critical part. He is held to a higher standard because he is at a higher position with more privaleges and more overall legitimacy than others in his field. Isiah Thomas, isnt even in his stratosphere in terms of importance on any level.
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9/22/2007  12:34 AM

That context is not as kind to Imus. He comes out of the shock jock tradition, but all shock jocks are not created equal. If Opie & Anthony or Mancow had made the "nappy-headed" comment, it wouldn't have been a blip because future Presidents do not do cable-news interviews with Opie & Anthony and Mancow. [/quote]

and I think thats the critical part. He is held to a higher standard because he is at a higher position with more privaleges and more overall legitimacy than others in his field. Isiah Thomas, isnt even in his stratosphere in terms of importance on any level.
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Amen it's the truth.
Hey Black women are beautiful.That women shouldn't be blaming Zeke, she needs to look at the system. The majority of the people on this forum want Zeke gone anyway so I'm waisting my breath.
I will say this though more and more my sisters are trying to be what they see on MTV and other sleezy shows or rap videos. The long fake hair, little or nothing on, going to sports bars,especially where the sports stars hand out. Looking like women of the evening. The brothers have everything on baggy and the sisters looking half naked. Marbs can call anyone a bitch but a smart proud educated sister let stuff like that roll off thier back. 90 percent of the women that Marbs mess with wouldn't give him the time of day if he didn't have money and play for the Knicks.
I can't wait for the season to begin and if the Knicks won 50 games a lot of you guys on the forum still would hate Marbs, and he knows that and thats why he acts that way. JUST TO GET UNDER YOUR SKIN!
Zeke will have the last laugh.

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9/22/2007  1:14 AM
Posted by codeunknown:

I think the main point Papabear is missing is that Hill isn't saying Isiah is "as bad or worse" than Imus, whatever that means. She is saying that, since Isiah is an influential African American, the destructive impact of his statements on the African American community is greater.
Isiah isn't an influential African American anymore than Larry Bird is an influential Caucasian. That claim is completely and totally absurd. No one cares or is influenced by the things Isiah Thomas says, his views and statements hold no weight in the black community. Any argument she makes on those grounds is flimsy especially when one compares it to Imus, a man whose radio listenership is 2 million a day, if he likes a book, its on the best seller list. Thats influence, read the article I posted.

Comparing Imus to Oprah would be more appropriate, kind of, Oprahs primary audience is middle class white women.
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Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by codeunknown:

I think the main point Papabear is missing is that Hill isn't saying Isiah is "as bad or worse" than Imus, whatever that means. She is saying that, since Isiah is an influential African American, the destructive impact of his statements on the African American community is greater.
Isiah isn't an influential African American anymore than Larry Bird is an influential Caucasian. That claim is completely and totally absurd. No one cares or is influenced by the things Isiah Thomas says, his views and statements hold no weight in the black community. Any argument she makes on those grounds is flimsy especially when one compares it to Imus, a man whose radio listenership is 2 million a day, if he likes a book, its on the best seller list. Thats influence, read the article I posted.

Comparing Imus to Oprah would be more appropriate, kind of, Oprahs primary audience is middle class white women.

I think you're missing the context. Its absurd to think Imus is more influential than Isiah in terms of encouraging young African Americans to engage in similar behavior. Hill clearly means "influential" in terms of being viewed positively and likely to be emulated by African Americans.
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Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by codeunknown:

I think the main point Papabear is missing is that Hill isn't saying Isiah is "as bad or worse" than Imus, whatever that means. She is saying that, since Isiah is an influential African American, the destructive impact of his statements on the African American community is greater.
Isiah isn't an influential African American anymore than Larry Bird is an influential Caucasian. That claim is completely and totally absurd. No one cares or is influenced by the things Isiah Thomas says, his views and statements hold no weight in the black community. Any argument she makes on those grounds is flimsy especially when one compares it to Imus, a man whose radio listenership is 2 million a day, if he likes a book, its on the best seller list. Thats influence, read the article I posted.

Comparing Imus to Oprah would be more appropriate, kind of, Oprahs primary audience is middle class white women.

I think you're missing the context. Its absurd to think Imus is more influential than Isiah in terms of encouraging young African Americans to engage in similar behavior. Hill clearly means "influential" in terms of being viewed positively and likely to be emulated by African Americans.

Papabear says

Come on get real. Zeke is no spokes man for black people. He does not influence anyone. Lots of females do not know who he is except for sports fans. To compare him to Imus is race hatting. Like I said I'm not surprised with some of you on this forum. You can't seperate sports from reality or racisam. If you guys had the power you'd throw away the up coming season in order to get rid of Zeke and Marbs. Listen Zeke grew up and saw a whole lot of uncle Tom stuff. Remember Bob Knight was his college coach and he went to Indiana University and grew up in the projects in Chicago. He had to fight black on black crime. So when the man speaks his mind people just can't stand it but he made it. He went from blacks calling him nigga to whites calling him nigga. All the hate letters he got at Indiana University. A Racist Coach with a nasty attitude Bob Knight. This was his coach and teacher. No wonder why he spoke out and told the truth how he felt. He could have lied.
Marbs will resign as a Knick next year and I will be laughing when some of you jump out your window and some of you start crying and becoming Boston Celtics fans. Larry Bird is treating his out of wed. baby he have like dirt. He wont reconize her or the mother. He just pay the child support. I bet you many time Larry Bird called her a money hungry bitch or just bitch and probably more than that.
I've heard some of you guys on the forum in order to show how a player out played another use the word HE BITCH SLAPPED HIM, OR HE WAS HIS BITCH. If that word is so bad then why use it at all???

Ill treat all of you like my bitch! (see what it sounds like) We all are refering to a female.

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9/22/2007  5:37 AM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by codeunknown:

I think the main point Papabear is missing is that Hill isn't saying Isiah is "as bad or worse" than Imus, whatever that means. She is saying that, since Isiah is an influential African American, the destructive impact of his statements on the African American community is greater.
Isiah isn't an influential African American anymore than Larry Bird is an influential Caucasian. That claim is completely and totally absurd. No one cares or is influenced by the things Isiah Thomas says, his views and statements hold no weight in the black community. Any argument she makes on those grounds is flimsy especially when one compares it to Imus, a man whose radio listenership is 2 million a day, if he likes a book, its on the best seller list. Thats influence, read the article I posted.

Comparing Imus to Oprah would be more appropriate, kind of, Oprahs primary audience is middle class white women.

I think you're missing the context. Its absurd to think Imus is more influential than Isiah in terms of encouraging young African Americans to engage in similar behavior. Hill clearly means "influential" in terms of being viewed positively and likely to be emulated by African Americans.

Papabear says

Come on get real. Zeke is no spokes man for black people. He does not influence anyone. Lots of females do not know who he is except for sports fans. To compare him to Imus is race hatting. Like I said I'm not surprised with some of you on this forum. You can't seperate sports from reality or racisam. If you guys had the power you'd throw away the up coming season in order to get rid of Zeke and Marbs. Listen Zeke grew up and saw a whole lot of uncle Tom stuff. Remember Bob Knight was his college coach and he went to Indiana University and grew up in the projects in Chicago. He had to fight black on black crime. So when the man speaks his mind people just can't stand it but he made it. He went from blacks calling him nigga to whites calling him nigga. All the hate letters he got at Indiana University. A Racist Coach with a nasty attitude Bob Knight. This was his coach and teacher. No wonder why he spoke out and told the truth how he felt. He could have lied.
Marbs will resign as a Knick next year and I will be laughing when some of you jump out your window and some of you start crying and becoming Boston Celtics fans. Larry Bird is treating his out of wed. baby he have like dirt. He wont reconize her or the mother. He just pay the child support. I bet you many time Larry Bird called her a money hungry bitch or just bitch and probably more than that.
I've heard some of you guys on the forum in order to show how a player out played another use the word HE BITCH SLAPPED HIM, OR HE WAS HIS BITCH. If that word is so bad then why use it at all???

Ill treat all of you like my bitch! (see what it sounds like) We all are refering to a female.

Papabear

Bear, you seem confused. No one said Zeke was a spokesman for black people. Then, you wrote about how Zeke has "made it" despite obstacles. Doesn't that make him a role model to many who are in the position in which he used to be? Shouldn't he set a better example for them? If anyone is blind to this reality, its you.

I don't know why you brought up Larry Bird. Did he call Anucha a bitch?
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9/22/2007  10:46 AM
So much has been said on this topic already that I hate to add fuel to the fire. So what the heck, here goes:

I think Isaih was being honest about how he felt about people calling black women a b***. I really do not have any comment on his personal feelings about the subject but as a representative of the Knicks in a taped conversation to be made available to the public I would not bring up racial issues that are totally impertinent to the case at hand.

While he did say he thought it was inappropriate for anybody to call ABS a bitch he also said it would bother him less if it was black person. Without getting carried away with psychoanalysis, he seems to be setting up a clear double standard in terms of how he manages the organization. When the issue at hand is the permissibility of personal name calling his rules as Knicks boss should be equal to black, white, yellow and pink. If he had actaully been a fairminded person capable of leading from the front and dealing with issues like this with eqity he would never have made that comment especially voluntarily.

In his attempt to portray his honesty he comes across as being racist himself and that will burn him no matter what he does from this point on.

Do I want him off the team? WHERE DO I SIGN? But, that has nothing to do with this interview.
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I don't know why you brought up Larry Bird. Did he call Anucha a bitch?

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That my point!!! Why in the hell are you guys comparing on bringing up Zeke to Imus??? You can't have it both ways. Bird and Zeke had thier run ins. And Bird was good at calling brothers names in games.
You miss the point. Slavery is not 150 years old. We were trained to use the word bitch and other names and it will take time to get it out of our systems. If I'm on a bus sometimes I go straight to the back when there seats in the front and I have to catch myself. Thats because as a kid down south I had to sit in the back of the bus. Old wounds are hard to heal. But I'm over it. I will say the same thing Zeke said and only a black man who has been through things can understand, unless he is an uncle Tom.
If a white man called a black woman a bitch or black bitch I would be more offended than a black saying it. I still would not like it if a black man said it and I would correct him and tell him that it was wrong. If a white man told me to sit in the back of the bus I would be very offended. If a black bus driver told me to sit in the back of the bus I wouldn't like it but I'd be less offended.

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this is a question for all black men/women that post here - here we are, a white owner, with 3 black employees in a very high position in a company, in the midst of a scandal. as a black person, seeing these 3 highly influential black people in high positions of power be involved in this scandal, how does it make you feel? how do you think it makes others feel watching this case unfold in the media? do you think the media is making this into more of a circus b/c they are black? and would it effect opportunities down the road for black men/women in trying to get into higher positions in companies? or is this just a situation where their race isn't that big an issue?
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Posted by TrueBlue:

There were about 2-3 sentences in that article word for word what I've said on this subject. Completely embarrassing as a black person that he said that. Once again he offered it up of his own free will.

Well, This is a pretty interesting point of view from a guy who called Isiah Thomas a "Jigaboo" and a "Spook", then went back and edited those statements and tried to get other people to edit their replies to it so he could pretend he never said it.

Oh, and then TB went on to try and excuse those statement by saying: "I'm black too"! I guess he was trying to say it's less offensive if a black person hurls racial slurs at another black person rather than a white person?

And then he went further by trying make it as if wasn't a racial slur by bringing up some silly alternate definition for spook.

I'm sure truebloser has some ridiculous argument why it's okay for him to spew slurs but it's not okay for Isiah Thomas. Why TB should be forgiven and everyone should forget about it but Thomas and Marbury are the devil and should not be.

Instead of bitch, they should have called ABS a "spook" or a "jigaboo". That would have been okay with Truebloser, since they are all black.

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djsunyc : As I said before slavery was over only less than 150 years ago. Thats not a long time. As slaves we were taught not to trust one another and if ratted some one out the master would reward you. Something that is the best kept secret back during that time was that white men in the south would make blacks fight one another like pit bulls. They had no boxing gloves just teeth, feet, and bare knuckles. They would bet on the bucks. Look how gangsta rap started and the NAACP, the Black Church, could not stop it. It's getting better but it will take time. Black Christians have a better success record of working together. We are getting better. People wonder why does some of these black sport stars act up?? Hey just by taking a brother out of the getto and giving him money dosen't mean he is a better man. Some are just angry men with money and thier possie.
so djsunyc it's gonna take still a little more time but we will get there. It's getting better each day. Less young blacks are useing drugs.

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There were about 2-3 sentences in that article word for word what I've said on this subject. Completely embarrassing as a black person that he said that. Once again he offered it up of his own free will.

Well, This is a pretty interesting point of view from a guy who called Isiah Thomas a "Jigaboo" and a "Spook", then went back and edited those statements and tried to get other people to edit their replies to it so he could pretend he never said it.

Oh, and then TB went on to try and excuse those statement by saying: "I'm black too"! I guess he was trying to say it's less offensive if a black person hurls racial slurs at another black person rather than a white person?

And then he went further by trying make it as if wasn't a racial slur by bringing up some silly alternate definition for spook.

I'm sure truebloser has some ridiculous argument why it's okay for him to spew slurs but it's not okay for Isiah Thomas. Why TB should be forgiven and everyone should forget about it but Thomas and Marbury are the devil and should not be.

Instead of bitch, they should have called ABS a "spook" or a "jigaboo". That would have been okay with Truebloser, since they are all black.

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In case anyone doesn't know what this is referring to...

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=18886

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Posted by oohah:
Posted by TrueBlue:

There were about 2-3 sentences in that article word for word what I've said on this subject. Completely embarrassing as a black person that he said that. Once again he offered it up of his own free will.

Well, This is a pretty interesting point of view from a guy who called Isiah Thomas a "Jigaboo" and a "Spook", then went back and edited those statements and tried to get other people to edit their replies to it so he could pretend he never said it.

Oh, and then TB went on to try and excuse those statement by saying: "I'm black too"! I guess he was trying to say it's less offensive if a black person hurls racial slurs at another black person rather than a white person?

And then he went further by trying make it as if wasn't a racial slur by bringing up some silly alternate definition for spook.

I'm sure truebloser has some ridiculous argument why it's okay for him to spew slurs but it's not okay for Isiah Thomas. Why TB should be forgiven and everyone should forget about it but Thomas and Marbury are the devil and should not be.

Instead of bitch, they should have called ABS a "spook" or a "jigaboo". That would have been okay with Truebloser, since they are all black.

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You're missing the point. I said he shouldn't have revealed how he felt in the disposition, when it wasn't solicited of him initially. I even said I could kind of understand if he was in the neighborhood discussing this with people in the community, although I still feel overall it's wrong to express tolerance/intolerance(depending on which side you're looking at it from) on an offensive issue. He clearly said "I shouldn't go here but I'm going to anyway", which displays his Pompus attitude and feeling of power he has as an inidvidual. He knew ahead of time it would be offensive but still carried on. What advantage did it give him saying it? None! And this isn't the first time he's been scrutinized for making or supporting comments that have negative, threatening, racial, or gender overtones.

I said what I said after the fact. I was trying to gloss over the fact for it not to be taken seriously. It wasn't so much a calculated response, it was done on the impulses and emotions I had at the time. I didn't preface what I said with "Hey I'm going to call Zeke out of his name and I shouldn't go there but I am anyway". I immediately apologized to Andrew after I said it saying it was wrong. It was brought up a couple months later to stir up drama and I was trying to diffuse the situation but I didn't have a "I don't Give A F*** attitude for saying it. Zeke wanted to be taken for what he said. He has a problem with men calling black women out of their name but has less tolerance if a white man does it, there's a big difference Oohah.

I haven't said one thing about Marbury calling Anooka a ***** besides it being embarrassing overall. I mentioned we can't call people out of our name here(on a message board), people we don't even know or see(those of us who haven't attended the get togethers) which would include me calling Zeke out of his name, so why is it even remotely understanding to see how a Top executive for a world renowned franchise can differentiate when calling someone out of their name. Besides I'm just a message board nobody compared to Zeke's high profiled very infulential position particularly as a Black Man. Although Marbury apologized, the same people that are trying to beat people down for being abusive verbally are the same ones being forgiving of Marbury and Zeke for what they appear to have done.
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9/22/2007  2:58 PM
A B#tch has several definitions including being unpleasant, difficult and hard to be around.

Is it so hard to believe that ABS might have been difficult? Jeff Van Gundy thought she was. Clarence Weatherspoon probably thought she was.

What if a person does in fact behave like a B#tch?

How does being called a B#tch entitle somebody to 10.6 million dollars?
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Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by TrueBlue:

There were about 2-3 sentences in that article word for word what I've said on this subject. Completely embarrassing as a black person that he said that. Once again he offered it up of his own free will.

Well, This is a pretty interesting point of view from a guy who called Isiah Thomas a "Jigaboo" and a "Spook", then went back and edited those statements and tried to get other people to edit their replies to it so he could pretend he never said it.

Oh, and then TB went on to try and excuse those statement by saying: "I'm black too"! I guess he was trying to say it's less offensive if a black person hurls racial slurs at another black person rather than a white person?

And then he went further by trying make it as if wasn't a racial slur by bringing up some silly alternate definition for spook.

I'm sure truebloser has some ridiculous argument why it's okay for him to spew slurs but it's not okay for Isiah Thomas. Why TB should be forgiven and everyone should forget about it but Thomas and Marbury are the devil and should not be.

Instead of bitch, they should have called ABS a "spook" or a "jigaboo". That would have been okay with Truebloser, since they are all black.

oohah

In case anyone doesn't know what this is referring to...

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=18886


I didn't want people to go back and edit it to pretend I never said it. I thought maybe it's best to be done because it shouldn't have been said. In that thread I see how another part of it was a little misunderstanding in that I wasn't arguing that Zeke should be called out of his name vs being fired from the Brawl breakout at the Garden, but due to what I said it turned into a Racial Thread. I never said it was ok for me to do what I did or forget about it either.

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9/22/2007  3:10 PM
Posted by TrueBloser:

"It's okay for me but not for them!

Why?

Nonsense, bullshyt, unintelligible paragraph, whine, piss-poor excuse, faulty logic, blah blah blah..."



^^^^truebloser

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9/22/2007  3:21 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by TrueBloser:

"It's okay for me but not for them!

Why?

Nonsense, bullshyt, unintelligible paragraph, whine, piss-poor excuse, faulty logic, blah blah blah..."



^^^^truebloser

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oohah



Find where I said it's Ok for me to do it until then....


Nonsense, bullshyt, unintelligible paragraph, whine, piss-poor excuse, faulty logic, blah blah blah..."
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