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9/21/2007  12:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:
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Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.

Normally I'd agree with you but his time Lupica is hardly alone in his negativity. There hasn't been one positive thing said about Dolan's circus. Absolutely nothing good has come from taking this to court. Maybe they make Anucha look bad, maybe they even win but at what expense? It wouldn't mean that they were innocent, it would mean that Anucha's team couldn't meet the very high standard of proof required in these kinds of cases. Everybody associated with this case comes off looking bad, there's no escaping it.

I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.

How often does somebody look good as a defendant in a lawsuit?
Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.
People see what they want to see. The media is in business to sell papers. Reality may be much different than the media hype.
The judge seems underwhelmed by this case.
There is not a high level of proof needed in a civil case. It just has to be more likely than not.

But what are the allegations here even?
That Marbury and Isiah called a B*tch? Is that worth 10 million dollars?
Marbury sleeping with an intern has nothing to do with ABS. In fact I believe I read that intern is going to testify against ABS.
Is Isiah hugging her 1 time worth 10.6 million dollars?

Its pretty clear you want this lady to win. I have news for you. If she wins any money it will be nominal. Forget 10.6 mill. Odds are she doesnt even get 1/40th of what she seeks.
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9/21/2007  12:58 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.

Normally I'd agree with you but his time Lupica is hardly alone in his negativity. There hasn't been one positive thing said about Dolan's circus. Absolutely nothing good has come from taking this to court. Maybe they make Anucha look bad, maybe they even win but at what expense? It wouldn't mean that they were innocent, it would mean that Anucha's team couldn't meet the very high standard of proof required in these kinds of cases. Everybody associated with this case comes off looking bad, there's no escaping it.

I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.

tape some pics! cause a disturbance when you have had enough by shouting obsenities at Dolan! Get tossed by the judge!

Can I count on UK to bail me out?
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9/21/2007  12:59 PM
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Isles if you don't get tasered you aren't trying.

Words to live by.

Didn't Ghandi say that?
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9/21/2007  1:01 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.
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9/21/2007  1:02 PM
Posted by islesfan:


Can I count on UK to bail me out?

Trust me man it wouldnt just be UK coming to bail you out. Hatred for Dolan runs that deep......
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9/21/2007  1:08 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.
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9/21/2007  1:08 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
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Typical Lupica. Before you click a Lupica opinion you know it will be 100% negative with him taking cheap shots at somebody. His columns are all the same slant with just the names changed.

Normally I'd agree with you but his time Lupica is hardly alone in his negativity. There hasn't been one positive thing said about Dolan's circus. Absolutely nothing good has come from taking this to court. Maybe they make Anucha look bad, maybe they even win but at what expense? It wouldn't mean that they were innocent, it would mean that Anucha's team couldn't meet the very high standard of proof required in these kinds of cases. Everybody associated with this case comes off looking bad, there's no escaping it.

I must admit, I've enjoyed every second of it and I want it to continue for as long as possible. I'm definitely showing up at the trial the day Isiah is cross examined.

How often does somebody look good as a defendant in a lawsuit?
Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.
People see what they want to see. The media is in business to sell papers. Reality may be much different than the media hype.
The judge seems underwhelmed by this case.
There is not a high level of proof needed in a civil case. It just has to be more likely than not.

But what are the allegations here even?
That Marbury and Isiah called a B*tch? Is that worth 10 million dollars?
Marbury sleeping with an intern has nothing to do with ABS. In fact I believe I read that intern is going to testify against ABS.
Is Isiah hugging her 1 time worth 10.6 million dollars?

Its pretty clear you want this lady to win. I have news for you. If she wins any money it will be nominal. Forget 10.6 mill. Odds are she doesnt even get 1/40th of what she seeks.

You couldn't be more mistaken. I could care less if she wins her case or not. As far as I'm concerned, as my boy Starbury says, she's a Bitc..I mean we're all winners here.

Isiah looks like a complete ass, with public, media and season ticket holder backlash being inevitable when they continue their losing ways. Mills comes off like the sycophant that he is. And Dolan looks like the fool that he is and hopefully his Daddy takes his toy away from him. It's all win win for me.

Can't wait for this season to start.
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9/21/2007  1:14 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
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Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

How many frivolous sexual harrassment lawsuits have been supported by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission?

Just a little refresher for you:

9/19/2006 – NEW YORK (Forbes) -- A federal agency found probable cause to believe a hostile work environment existed at Madison Square Garden, where a former Knicks executive claims she was sexually harassed by New York coach Isiah Thomas.

The treatment of senior Knicks executive Anucha Browne Sanders was not an isolated incident, and included "severe and pervasive verbal sexual harassment," according to the findings released Tuesday by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Sanders, the Knicks' former senior vice president of marketing and business operations before her dismissal in January, contends she was fired "for telling the truth" while going through internal channels to stop the harassment.

The EEOC determined there was enough evidence to believe the Garden violated the Civil Rights Act, and that senior management "was aware of the harassment but failed to address it effectively."

The process is not a verdict, but a prerequisite to pursuing such a case in federal court.

[Edited by - islesfan on 09-21-2007 1:15 PM]
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9/21/2007  1:16 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
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Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

No -- but please, show me where I told you that?

I'm telling you that there is a legal threshold of proof you have to meet before your case can go to trial and that frivolous lawsuits are usually filtered out by these standards. So if there was absolutely no basis to Anucha's claim there would be no trial right now.

This trial is costing MSG plenty. Don't fool yourself. If they settled, their legal fees would be less. Their opportunity costs would be less. Their bad publicity would be less. It's about balancing the negatives and the positives. And I think Dolan acted irrationally here. I don't know what number they would have settled on, but I know there's a chance that they might've ended up spending more money by going to trial than they would have by settling -- that chance alone makes the decision to go to trial seem foolish.
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9/21/2007  1:18 PM
Posted by martin:
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lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

this article is about Dolan and his soldiers, not so much about Brown and the fact that she may be a and saint.

I understand that, but by him doing so, it made it seem so onesided...
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9/21/2007  1:19 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

if you anucha was your friend, or a relative, would you tell her to lower her demands or would you support what her lawyers suggest she sue for? would you tell her you feel it's "extortion" and "blackmail"?

are you aware how things work in these kind of lawsuits? this ain't a movie or law & order. you ask for ALOT of money, then hope you get something reasonable. ever hear of baseball arbitration? the player asks for a ton of money, the team tries to prove their own player ain't worth that, and it usually falls somewhere in the middle. i don't understand why this concept bothers you so much.

if you're criteria for "extortion" and "blackmail" is asking for more money than you think one deserves, then there's ALOT of people guilty of this.
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9/21/2007  1:20 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.
Evil you are my boy and all but you cant be serious. I guess you never heard about this case:
Court Rules for Cleaners In $54 Million Pants Suit
By Henri E. Cauvin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 26, 2007; A01

The D.C. administrative law judge who sued his neighborhood dry cleaners for $54 million over a pair of lost pants found out yesterday what he's going to get.

Nothing.

Hardly a surprise, the verdict was nonetheless a media spectacle of the first order.

Journalists from around the world descended on a strip mall in far Northeast Washington for one more news conference and a last look at the place where it all began between the proprietors of Custom Cleaners, Soo and Jin Chung, and a judge named Roy Pearson.

It was the case that people couldn't stop talking about, and yesterday, the judge who heard it, Judith Bartnoff, finally had her say, rejecting Pearson's claim that he was defrauded by the Chungs and their "Satisfaction Guaranteed" sign.

"A reasonable consumer would not interpret 'Satisfaction Guaranteed' to mean that a merchant is required to satisfy a customer's unreasonable demands or to accede to demands that the merchant has reasonable grounds to dispute," Bartnoff wrote in a 23-page ruling, adding that Pearson "is not entitled to any relief whatsoever."

"Obviously, it's a great day for the Chungs, and honestly, it's a great day for American justice," the couple's lead attorney, Christopher Manning, said outside the Chungs' shop, on Bladensburg Road NE.

Bartnoff ordered Pearson to pay the Chungs' court costs -- likely to be a few thousand dollars -- to cover fees for filings, transcripts and similar expenses. But even bigger troubles loom. She said she will consider making Pearson also pay the couple's attorneys' fees arising from the two-year legal battle. With the legal costs likely to exceed $100,000, however, the Chungs aren't counting on Pearson being able to pay, Manning said.

And with good reason. Up for reappointment this year, Pearson could have a hard time keeping his $96,000-a-year job if Bartnoff finds him at fault for his pursuit of the case. While awaiting a decision on his reappointment, Pearson is not hearing cases. He did not respond to e-mails seeking comment yesterday.

No one, not even Pearson, argued that his pants were actually worth $54 million. They were part of a Hickey Freeman suit that cost slightly more than $1,000, and letting out the waist, as Pearson had asked the cleaners to do, was a $10.50 job.

But this case -- decried by the plaintiffs' attorneys and the defense bar -- was, to Pearson, about far more than the pair of pants. He might yet appeal.

According to Pearson, the litigation is about safeguarding the rights of every consumer in the District who might fall prey to signs like those once posted in Custom Cleaners. Satisfaction was in fact not guaranteed, Pearson argued, and his own experience put the lie to the supposed promise.

The trouble came in spring 2005. Pearson, who had been out of work for about three years, had just been appointed to be an administrative law judge. He had gained weight, and he realized he needed to have his suit pants let out.

On May 3, he brought in a pair of pants that he planned to wear three days later. But on May 5, they were not ready, and the day after, they were nowhere to be found.

What happened next is perhaps the most significant factual dispute.

Pearson claims that the pants still weren't at the cleaners May 7 and that Soo Chung promised to keep looking. When he returned a week later, Chung tried to give him what she said were the missing trousers. But Pearson said they were not the pants he had left to be altered. Not only was the pattern different, but the pants proffered as his also had, of all things, cuffs. Only once in his adult life, he said, had he worn cuffed pants, and never, he suggested, would he have so altered his treasured Hickey Freeman suit.

Pearson wrote the Chungs, demanding $1,150 to buy a new suit. When the Chungs did not respond, Pearson swung into action, filing a lawsuit that would eventually make him the talk of the town and fodder for late-night comedy.

In her ruling, Bartnoff said that Pearson failed to prove that the pants Soo Chung offered him were not his. The judge suggested that he might have been mixed up about what he brought in.

"It certainly is plausible that the pants on the hanger with his blue and burgundy pinstriped suit jacket were not the pants that matched the jacket," Bartnoff wrote, "even if Mr. Pearson assumed that they were."

And he did, insisting as much right up until the end of his trial.

He initially sought as much as $67 million in damages, scaling back the demand shortly before trial. During the past two years, he rejected offers to settle, first for $3,000, then for $4,600 and finally for $12,000.

The judge who had been handling the case until this year headed off Pearson's efforts to turn the suit into a sort of sweeping class-action and tried to rein in Pearson's "excessive" demands for documents. But the judge found he could not simply dismiss all of the claims, and that meant Roy L. Pearson Jr. v . Soo Chung et al. was going to trial.

By the time it did, on June 12, it was in the hands of a new judge, Bartnoff. Media hordes descended, including television crews from Korea, where the Chungs were born. When Pearson testified, he lost his composure and began to cry. When Soo Chung took the witness stand, she did the same.

Yesterday, Soo Chung was smiling, grateful for the news from the court and hopeful that she would soon be able to put the incident behind her.

But when asked what she would do if Pearson turned up again with some clothes, she took no chances.

"We can't stop him from coming in as a customer," she said, speaking through a relative who translated her words from Korean.

Staff writers Joe Holley and Debbi Wilgoren contributed to this report.

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9/21/2007  1:25 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

Evil you are my boy and all but you cant be serious. I guess you never heard about this case:

Thanks Kai. You know you my boy too. Why you ain't goin' to the home-opener get together?

Of course, I heard about that pants case. That was ridiculous. I wouldn't consider that case the norm however.
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9/21/2007  1:26 PM
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lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

it is fraud...but it's a relatable fraud to many people, including probably the jurors. how many people file their taxes with 100% honesty? how many people even know how to file their taxes and not just let someone do it for them with the instructions of "get me back as much money as you can"?


I am a controller for the corporation I work for. And I understand when you file personal taxes and take more deductions than you actually had, the basic donation deductions, work exp, etc. But this is different, she used her employers expenses on some tax scam, the intent was there, she can no longer clain ignorance in this, it is bigger than that, this is not some middle class family man claiming he used his car for business and cheating a few hundred miles, this is a tax scam using corporate expenditures which is reported to the IRS on MSG's returns and if they weren't and she was using those receipts for her own good, then that is the same as stealing cash from MSG... either way she should have been fired for that alone..
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9/21/2007  1:26 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

if you anucha was your friend, or a relative, would you tell her to lower her demands or would you support what her lawyers suggest she sue for? would you tell her you feel it's "extortion" and "blackmail"?

are you aware how things work in these kind of lawsuits? this ain't a movie or law & order. you ask for ALOT of money, then hope you get something reasonable. ever hear of baseball arbitration? the player asks for a ton of money, the team tries to prove their own player ain't worth that, and it usually falls somewhere in the middle. i don't understand why this concept bothers you so much.

if you're criteria for "extortion" and "blackmail" is asking for more money than you think one deserves, then there's ALOT of people guilty of this.

If I was her friend I would tell her to act with honor no matter how she felt she was treated.

That means I wouldnt try to make this a case about racism when its obvious it had nothing to do with race.

That means I wouldnt drag some poor intern in to the case when the intern and her sleeping with Marbury had nothing to do with how Anucha was treated.

Regardless of how the legal system works there is right and there is wrong. A person can act legally and be totally wrong and a person can act right and end up on the wrong end of a suit.

I think 300,000 was a very fair offer to settle especially when MSG offered to help her find another job and she already has another job. I think asking for 10.6 mill and saying it will cost 7 mill to settle is bordering on extortion in my opinion. She made 260k a year. 10 million is almost 50 years of salary. She and her lawyers are using the court system like a lottery ticket.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:28 PM]
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9/21/2007  1:28 PM
Posted by Nalod:
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lupica makes some valid points, but he is tryint to make brown out to be a victim and a saint, this same lady falsified tax returns using MSG expenditures, that would get you fired from any company or mom and pop business. She never gave any answer for this.. I mean that is fraud and as bad as anything that has went on at MSG so far...

What is really ironic is no matter the outcome, MSG has lost really big. I repeat what I have said over and over that they should have settled. Not doing it defies logic at any level. They could have paid her 3mil and made her go away. For the life of me I can't understand what in the hell Dolan is thinking and why he won't listen to his lawyers.

The crap they they admitted to just in the course of doing business really has exposed themselves as much more incompetant than I could have ever imagined. Anucha might lose her case but every day of this trail MSG loses big. The media is feeding off of this and painting them is very bad light.

Remember you don't go to trail unless there are very good reasons to. A [retrail hearing determines if a person has a legit claim to prevent any employee of accusing their employer. IT weeds out frivilous suits.

Judge Lynch said weeks ago they should settle this! Anucha harrassment suite is not substancial but the core of this trail is unlawful termination. What her team has done is paint this management team as a bunch of idiots and in order to defend themselves they have not admitted to any crimes, just that they are inept as hell! They put MSG on trail.

Dolan looks like an idiot, Isiah looks like a snake and MIlls looks like a good looking guy in a nice suite in over his head. The lawyer bill to defend this has to be costing millions. This could have been done very quietly at the very beginning.

I am amazed seemingly every year just how inept this management team really is! The list is all too familiar and looking at the whole body of work it reads like a sitcom!

nalod, I would normally agree with you, but this chic has seen guys like penny and Shandon Anderson get paid mega millions to stay away from this team. she saw Allan Houston get paid over 40 mil and not play a game, she had 10 mil on her mind, this was here golden parachute, I doubt 3 mil would have made her go away, she knows dolan uses money to solve his problems and she was banking on that... but we know dolan is stubborn and to get his way, he doesn't care if he and his billion dollar corp. look like jackasses!
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9/21/2007  1:29 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

if you anucha was your friend, or a relative, would you tell her to lower her demands or would you support what her lawyers suggest she sue for? would you tell her you feel it's "extortion" and "blackmail"?

are you aware how things work in these kind of lawsuits? this ain't a movie or law & order. you ask for ALOT of money, then hope you get something reasonable. ever hear of baseball arbitration? the player asks for a ton of money, the team tries to prove their own player ain't worth that, and it usually falls somewhere in the middle. i don't understand why this concept bothers you so much.

if you're criteria for "extortion" and "blackmail" is asking for more money than you think one deserves, then there's ALOT of people guilty of this.

If I was her friend I would tell her to act with honor no matter how she felt she was treated.

That means I wouldnt try to make this a case about racism when its obvious it had nothing to do with race.

That means I wouldnt drag some poor intern in to the case when the intern and her sleeping with Marbury had nothing to do with how Anucha was treated.

Regardless of how the legal system works there is right and there is wrong. A person can act legally and be totally wrong and a person can act right and end up on the wrong end of a suit.

I think 300,000 was a very fair offer to settle especially when MSG offered to help her find another job and she already has another job. I think asking for 10.6 mill and saying it will cost 7 mill to settle is bordering on extortion in my opinion. She made 260k a year. 10 million is almost 50 years of salary. She and her lawyers are using the court system like a lottery ticket.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:28 PM]

you should run for president...of candyland.
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9/21/2007  1:38 PM
NO ONE wants to have some lawyer put your flaws on trial in a court case. Almost ANYONE will look bad under that kind of scrutiny. I mean come on now, some of you aren't being honest about this. Any good attorney can make you look bad. They could put Mother Teresa on the stand and rip her apart. When you're a defendant you start at a disadvantage and the damage done by accusations even if they're never substantiated is incredible. She doesn't have anyone who can support her claims of what she claims Isiah said, but people believe it anyway, just cuz it's been put out there. Her lawyers paint him as a bad guy and drags Steph into it and that's enough to make some believe he must be guilty. Come on!

Now we know for a FACT that she cheated on her taxes. There are emails showing the many mistakes she was making in the last year and if they can put a witness on the stand to say she did coerce a subordinate to make statements against MSG then she's guilty of that too. Lupica may have a point to make about the flaws of Dolan, Mills and Isiah, but that doesn't have anything to do with this case. Besides all it will take is a successful season and all of the bashing will stop and they won't look like such idiots anymore.
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9/21/2007  1:38 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

if you anucha was your friend, or a relative, would you tell her to lower her demands or would you support what her lawyers suggest she sue for? would you tell her you feel it's "extortion" and "blackmail"?

are you aware how things work in these kind of lawsuits? this ain't a movie or law & order. you ask for ALOT of money, then hope you get something reasonable. ever hear of baseball arbitration? the player asks for a ton of money, the team tries to prove their own player ain't worth that, and it usually falls somewhere in the middle. i don't understand why this concept bothers you so much.

if you're criteria for "extortion" and "blackmail" is asking for more money than you think one deserves, then there's ALOT of people guilty of this.

If I was her friend I would tell her to act with honor no matter how she felt she was treated.

That means I wouldnt try to make this a case about racism when its obvious it had nothing to do with race.

That means I wouldnt drag some poor intern in to the case when the intern and her sleeping with Marbury had nothing to do with how Anucha was treated.

Regardless of how the legal system works there is right and there is wrong. A person can act legally and be totally wrong and a person can act right and end up on the wrong end of a suit.

I think 300,000 was a very fair offer to settle especially when MSG offered to help her find another job and she already has another job. I think asking for 10.6 mill and saying it will cost 7 mill to settle is bordering on extortion in my opinion. She made 260k a year. 10 million is almost 50 years of salary. She and her lawyers are using the court system like a lottery ticket.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:28 PM]

you should run for president...of candyland.

You might feel different if you were extorted like this. I was sued for 6 mill. It was not fun. It was a scam.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:39 PM]
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9/21/2007  1:40 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Anyone can sue anybody. Your favorite poster on this board could go in to court today and file a complaintent suit against you for sexual harassment. You could be completely innocent of the charges but his complaint would make you look badly.

If someone sued you with no basis. Their claim would never survive summary judgment or a directed verdict. It would never get to trial. It would never get to the point where it has now with the MSG case. Everyone who is saying that MSG should have settled is 100% right.

You are not actually telling me that no frivolous lawsuits have ever made it to court in the history of the USA are you?

Settle for what? 10.6 mill that she seeks now? 7 Mill that she said she would settle for? Thats extortion and black mail. They offered her 300k which is way more than she deserved.

if you anucha was your friend, or a relative, would you tell her to lower her demands or would you support what her lawyers suggest she sue for? would you tell her you feel it's "extortion" and "blackmail"?

are you aware how things work in these kind of lawsuits? this ain't a movie or law & order. you ask for ALOT of money, then hope you get something reasonable. ever hear of baseball arbitration? the player asks for a ton of money, the team tries to prove their own player ain't worth that, and it usually falls somewhere in the middle. i don't understand why this concept bothers you so much.

if you're criteria for "extortion" and "blackmail" is asking for more money than you think one deserves, then there's ALOT of people guilty of this.

If I was her friend I would tell her to act with honor no matter how she felt she was treated.

That means I wouldnt try to make this a case about racism when its obvious it had nothing to do with race.

That means I wouldnt drag some poor intern in to the case when the intern and her sleeping with Marbury had nothing to do with how Anucha was treated.

Regardless of how the legal system works there is right and there is wrong. A person can act legally and be totally wrong and a person can act right and end up on the wrong end of a suit.

I think 300,000 was a very fair offer to settle especially when MSG offered to help her find another job and she already has another job. I think asking for 10.6 mill and saying it will cost 7 mill to settle is bordering on extortion in my opinion. She made 260k a year. 10 million is almost 50 years of salary. She and her lawyers are using the court system like a lottery ticket.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:28 PM]

you should run for president...of candyland.

You might feel different if you were extorted like this. I was sued for 6 mill. It was not fun. It was a scam.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 09-21-2007 1:39 PM]

was it bonn who sued you?
Im with Lupica on this one..........

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