Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Solace:

Anyone who is rooting for Anucha because they think it will get Isiah fired... give it a rest. Isiah won't get fired. If he was going to get fired, he would've been fired already. Others have been fired for less and without it being drawn out.

I really could care less about routing for Anooka, although I feel she has been done wrong by them, I'm more flabbergasted that our GM and President has the gumption to give his opinion on being verbally abusive, in the work place, distinguishing racial preference. That in of itself is absolutely unprofessional and gives us all insight to his warped mindset. I could maybe try and see where he's coming from if he's talking to someone from the neighborhood but in the work place?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 09-18-2007 09:21 AM]

yeah I dont see how it matters at all in the workplace, its never cool, but in other settings i completely understand.

Ive never been a big fan of the reasoning that 1 group can say 1 word and another group cant say that word. A word is either ok or not ok in my book.

I dont see how this has anything to do with the NBA nor David Stern. The Patriots cheated during a game. This is MSG office politics that includes other aspects of MSG as well not just the Knicks.

Posted by nixluva:

Isiah didn't say that he thought it was OK, he said that he found it "less offensive" for a Black man to say it. That could be based on his life experiences I don't know. That's his opinion. He's wrong by many peoples standards, but it's not the same thing as saying he feels it's OK to call a woman a "B" at all.

To be honest all of this court stuff is so tricky. The taped deposition is a very slick piece of work to use against him. It still doesn't prove anything, but does do damage to his character as all of these things are designed to do. The idea isn't to really get to the truth. It's one big smear campaign. Anucha's lawyers paint Isiah and MSG in a bad light and MSG paints Anucha in a bad light. Depending on how much mud you have you can win the case. It's clear that this should've been settled out of court as the Judge advised, cuz both sides are getting killed.

He clearly says he has a problem with a white man saying it as to say "yes I feel it's out of line" but then says if a black man says "I'd have to distinguish the context". Sorry Nix in a work place for a certainty, there's absolutely no room for interpretation to call someone out of their name. LOL we can't even call people out of there name on a message board, people we don't even know and who we rarely see face-to-face, yet alone do it at place of employment for one of the most storied franchise in NBA history. Nix why can't you just call it like it is. Isiah is out of his gord speaking in such manner.

I'd also like to add whenever you preface a statement you're about to make with "Maybe I Shouldn't Go There But I will Anyway", is a redflag you shouldn't go there.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 09-18-2007 11:55 AM]

Posted by COSSUCKS:

While I dont think Isiah is right I do think he is being honest.

We all have seen that some people think certain races are ok using certain words and certain races think its not ok using certain words. Its a really tricky line and he is being real and honest about it. Does that mean it was ok to use that word in an office? No. Does that mean Annuca should get 10 million dollars for him using it when he says he never even called her it? No.
Sexual harrassment laws should be used to protect people not used as a lottery ticket. Anucca seems to have had problems at IBM. Annuca seems to have had problems with Jeff Van Gundy. Does this make Isiah innocent? No. Actually its Marbury that called her a Bword not Isiah. Does getting called a Bword by Marbury entitle somebody to 10 million dollars from MSG given Annuchas past history of problems? Not in my opinion. Maybe she should just sue Marbury not Dolan and MSG.

Actually Isiah's testimony is in regards to Anucha's testimony that Isiah called her a "bitch" in the workplace. Marbury also testified that he called her a "bitch".

If Isiah did say that, sexually harrassed her and was wrongfully terminated, then based on her salary and position, she should be entitled to that money.

His comments were so foolish. To be honest I was really surprised that he feels that but even more surprised that he verbalized it - without being questioned. Like he added that part himself. I think it's offensive anyway you slice it in a workplace or in polite conversation. If it's amongst your friends and family, you do want you want. But in a social atompsphere...I don't think it's appropriate.

I think we can all agree that we shouldn't refer to women by the "B" word or the "H" word. It can be funny when a comedian says it, and maybe it has a place in rap music and other forms of entertainment, but we shouldn't say these things at all, and definitely not in the workplace.

I think I understand what Isiah was saying and I think he was being honest, but he shouldn't have gone into this cul-de-sac. I'm sure he could've answered any question he was asked without going into this.

Do you get a lawyer when giving a deposition? If so, his lawyer should have stopped him.

[Edited by - BasketballJones on 09-18-2007 13:37]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Isiah didn't say that he thought it was OK, he said that he found it "less offensive" for a Black man to say it. That could be based on his life experiences I don't know. That's his opinion. He's wrong by many peoples standards, but it's not the same thing as saying he feels it's OK to call a woman a "B" at all.

To be honest all of this court stuff is so tricky. The taped deposition is a very slick piece of work to use against him. It still doesn't prove anything, but does do damage to his character as all of these things are designed to do. The idea isn't to really get to the truth. It's one big smear campaign. Anucha's lawyers paint Isiah and MSG in a bad light and MSG paints Anucha in a bad light. Depending on how much mud you have you can win the case. It's clear that this should've been settled out of court as the Judge advised, cuz both sides are getting killed.

He clearly says he has a problem with a white man saying it as to say "yes I feel it's out of line" but then says if a black man says "I'd have to distinguish the context". Sorry Nix in a work place for a certainty, there's absolutely no room for interpretation to call someone out of their name. LOL we can't even call people out of there name on a message board, people we don't even know and who we rarely see face-to-face, yet alone do it at place of employment for one of the most storied franchise in NBA history. Nix why can't you just call it like it is. Isiah is out of his gord speaking in such manner.

I'd also like to add whenever you preface a statement you're about to make with "Maybe I Shouldn't Go There But I will Anyway", is a redflag you shouldn't go there.

I NEVER said that I thought it was OK and I clearly said that he was wrong by many peoples standards, leaving room that there are some in our society that have no problem with this. All I'm saying is that he expressed that he had more outrage at a White man saying it than a Black man saying it to a black woman, that's his deal, not mine. It's still not the same thing as saying that he has NO PROBLEMS with it all or that he would allow it or that he himself would say it. He shouldn't have made any qualifying statement, as if it matters to what degree he's offended. In either case he never said that he'd allow such conduct, only that he'd be personally more offended by a white man saying it.

It makes you wonder what would make him say such a thing on camera to her Attorney. Perhaps the pressure of the moment was getting to him more than he likes to let on. Maybe he thought he'd come across as more believable if he was honest as opposed to giving the politically correct answer.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Isiah didn't say that he thought it was OK, he said that he found it "less offensive" for a Black man to say it. That could be based on his life experiences I don't know. That's his opinion. He's wrong by many peoples standards, but it's not the same thing as saying he feels it's OK to call a woman a "B" at all.

To be honest all of this court stuff is so tricky. The taped deposition is a very slick piece of work to use against him. It still doesn't prove anything, but does do damage to his character as all of these things are designed to do. The idea isn't to really get to the truth. It's one big smear campaign. Anucha's lawyers paint Isiah and MSG in a bad light and MSG paints Anucha in a bad light. Depending on how much mud you have you can win the case. It's clear that this should've been settled out of court as the Judge advised, cuz both sides are getting killed.

He clearly says he has a problem with a white man saying it as to say "yes I feel it's out of line" but then says if a black man says "I'd have to distinguish the context". Sorry Nix in a work place for a certainty, there's absolutely no room for interpretation to call someone out of their name. LOL we can't even call people out of there name on a message board, people we don't even know and who we rarely see face-to-face, yet alone do it at place of employment for one of the most storied franchise in NBA history. Nix why can't you just call it like it is. Isiah is out of his gord speaking in such manner.

I'd also like to add whenever you preface a statement you're about to make with "Maybe I Shouldn't Go There But I will Anyway", is a redflag you shouldn't go there.

I NEVER said that I thought it was OK and I clearly said that he was wrong by many peoples standards, leaving room that there are some in our society that have no problem with this. All I'm saying is that he expressed that he had more outrage at a White man saying it than a Black man saying it to a black woman, that's his deal, not mine. It's still not the same thing as saying that he has NO PROBLEMS with it all or that he would allow it or that he himself would say it. He shouldn't have made any qualifying statement, as if it matters to what degree he's offended. In either case he never said that he'd allow such conduct, only that he'd be personally more offended by a white man saying it.

It makes you wonder what would make him say such a thing on camera to her Attorney. Perhaps the pressure of the moment was getting to him more than he likes to let on. Maybe he thought he'd come across as more believable if he was honest as opposed to giving the politically correct answer.

When you back a snake in the corner with 3 mongoose , eventually he will come out biting. Isiah in his last outburst.