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COSSUCKS
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9/12/2007  12:20 PM
Posted by islesfan:
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Why would you assume that statement from the Anucha camp is true? Isiah denies it and I believe in innocent until proven guilty

Because he's a lying piece of crap a-hole.

Even liars tell the truth sometimes. Have you ever lied? Do you think Anucha has ever lied?
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9/12/2007  12:23 PM
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Yup, since the beginning of time.

This is officially brought public, Isiah is screwed, whether he said it or not.

Dolan might have no choice BUT to fire him.

nope. they'll admit to absolutely nothing, pay her off and life goes on.

Probably they will...
But can they pay off the public opinion?
Can they pay off to the Knick fans? And will they?
Probably not.

what's the issue? that he was mouthing off with a co-employee and said "i don't give a f--k about these white people?" that's supposed to be so offensive? we're supposed to take that personally? be shocked? be offended? c'mon.
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9/12/2007  12:23 PM
I don't believe that Isiah is a racist. For one thing there are no Blacks on the Jury and the only reason to make a statement like this is to be racially inflammatory. It's the job of her legal team to make sure she paints him as an ugly individual to the jury. Isiah is known to have many longtime friends who are white. I'm not saying that it's impossible that he could say this, he may have, but I don't believe that he is a racist. Being called a racist is a very strong accusation. It implies a hatred for another race of people. The statement may show some underlying level of racial dislike, but to rise to the level of hatred is another thing entirely. Just about everyone has said something that was racially insensitive when they were among family, friends or members of their own race. It doesn't mean that they'd go out and take actions against another race in a hateful way.

In all of his years we've never heard of Isiah being accused of sexual harrassment. He's been with his wife for 21 years and i'm sure that he's had PLENTY of opportunity to get some action from the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he mess with this woman? She's not attractive. I'm just being honest. We all have eyes and this woman is not attractive enough to make me believe he'd risk his career getting involved with her. Just look at her again and imagine that he started off hating her. Do you believe that a game of basketball against her would make him change his mind about her?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/09/12/2007-09-12_brownesanders_slams_isiah_thomas_in_sexh.html?ref=rss
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9/12/2007  12:25 PM
Let's be honest, none of us know jack shiot about Isiah or Anucha. We can have beliefs on who he is based on 2nd and 3rd hand information. But none of us really has a clue to what type of person he is good or bad.
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9/12/2007  12:35 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
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Why would you assume that statement from the Anucha camp is true? Isiah denies it and I believe in innocent until proven guilty

Because he's a lying piece of crap a-hole.

Even liars tell the truth sometimes. Have you ever lied? Do you think Anucha has ever lied?

Isiah has a long history of anti-social and disgusting behavior. That includes in the workplace.

Isiah has no credibility.
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9/12/2007  12:48 PM
I don't believe Isiah is racist, just insincere.

As far as him hitting on Anucha, who knows. Big women like little guys and little guys like big women. Go to the mall, you'll see it.

JOrdan was married for a very long time until they split. It happens.

Isiah got a women pregnant while engaged to his current wife. They got off to a great start!

I don't like Isiah, but I want the knicks to win games. If the two can coexist then Im gonna stay with hit. So far we got 4 years of Isiah really not doing a whole except paying a lot of people money.
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9/12/2007  12:49 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Why would you assume that statement from the Anucha camp is true? Isiah denies it and I believe in innocent until proven guilty

Because he's a lying piece of crap a-hole.

Even liars tell the truth sometimes. Have you ever lied? Do you think Anucha has ever lied?

Isiah has a long history of anti-social and disgusting behavior. That includes in the workplace.

Isiah has no credibility.

Long history of anti social disgusting behavior? Isiah has had a few small incidents in like 25 years in the public eye. What is his long history of disgusting behavior? As far as being anti social goes I think he is a lot more polite to most people than many posters on this board.

What makes you credible, Annucha credible and Isiah not credible?
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9/12/2007  12:54 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Let's be honest, none of us know jack shiot about Isiah or Anucha. We can have beliefs on who he is based on 2nd and 3rd hand information. But none of us really has a clue to what type of person he is good or bad.

Exactly and Isiah doesnt claim to be Mr Rodgers either. He is just denying Annuchas claims. Annucha has a questionable background herself.
I think sexual harrassment in the work place is absolutely disgusting but I do not think saying I love you and what no love today (if these claims are even true) merits her getting the 10 million she is suing for. It looks to me she tried to blackmail Dolan and why she would interject race in to the case is besides me unless she is trying to predjudice the jury or the media. This case has nothing to do with race.
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9/12/2007  12:57 PM
Posted by arkrud:
She also said Thomas rebuffed her March 2004 request that he sign renewal-request letters sent out to past season ticket holders with a pointed shot at loyal Knick fans.
\"Bitch, I don\'t give a f--k about these white people,\" Browne Sanders said Thomas told her.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/09/12/2007-09-12_brownesanders_slams_isiah_thomas_in_sexh.html

I would hate to think this is a true statement. I hope it is not.
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9/12/2007  12:57 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bippity10:

Let's be honest, none of us know jack shiot about Isiah or Anucha. We can have beliefs on who he is based on 2nd and 3rd hand information. But none of us really has a clue to what type of person he is good or bad.

Exactly and Isiah doesnt claim to be Mr Rodgers either. He is just denying Annuchas claims. Annucha has a questionable background herself.
I think sexual harrassment in the work place is absolutely disgusting but I do not think saying I love you and what no love today (if these claims are even true) merits her getting the 10 million she is suing for. It looks to me she tried to blackmail Dolan and why she would interject race in to the case is besides me unless she is trying to predjudice the jury or the media. This case has nothing to do with race.

she's trying to portray working with isiah has hostile, that's why you bring up everything he allegedly said.

what if your lifelong dream was to work for the knicks. you get the job. and then it turns sour b/c of someone new they hired. how much would you ask for? would you say "nah, $9 mil is too much, let's only ask for $2 mil?" people ask for more money all the time - not only lawyers, but athletes as well...hoping they get close to it.

it's in tril and we'll see how it turns out. most of the time, these cases never reach the point where a judge/jury decides. they end up settling before.

why it got to this point i don't really know but like i said before, dolan doesn't care so this is just another part of the game for him.
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9/12/2007  12:59 PM
I don't know if Isiah said it or not, or if that's the way he really feels. I don't particularly care. I just wanna see a good show. I hope Marbury puts on a good one today.


[Edited by - BasketballJones on 09-12-2007 12:59]
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9/12/2007  1:12 PM
i hope marbury's high again
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9/12/2007  1:29 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by Bippity10:

Let's be honest, none of us know jack shiot about Isiah or Anucha. We can have beliefs on who he is based on 2nd and 3rd hand information. But none of us really has a clue to what type of person he is good or bad.

Exactly and Isiah doesnt claim to be Mr Rodgers either. He is just denying Annuchas claims. Annucha has a questionable background herself.
I think sexual harrassment in the work place is absolutely disgusting but I do not think saying I love you and what no love today (if these claims are even true) merits her getting the 10 million she is suing for. It looks to me she tried to blackmail Dolan and why she would interject race in to the case is besides me unless she is trying to predjudice the jury or the media. This case has nothing to do with race.

she's trying to portray working with isiah has hostile, that's why you bring up everything he allegedly said.

what if your lifelong dream was to work for the knicks. you get the job. and then it turns sour b/c of someone new they hired. how much would you ask for? would you say "nah, $9 mil is too much, let's only ask for $2 mil?" people ask for more money all the time - not only lawyers, but athletes as well...hoping they get close to it.

it's in tril and we'll see how it turns out. most of the time, these cases never reach the point where a judge/jury decides. they end up settling before.

why it got to this point i don't really know but like i said before, dolan doesn't care so this is just another part of the game for him.

It got to this point because Dolan believes he was being blackmailed and Dolan told Mike and the Mad Dog many moths ago he would not settle for any amount.
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9/12/2007  1:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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She also said Thomas rebuffed her March 2004 request that he sign renewal-request letters sent out to past season ticket holders with a pointed shot at loyal Knick fans.
\"Bitch, I don\'t give a f--k about these white people,\" Browne Sanders said Thomas told her.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2007/09/12/2007-09-12_brownesanders_slams_isiah_thomas_in_sexh.html

I would hate to think this is a true statement. I hope it is not.


What if he do sad this?
What if they have witness to testify in front of the Jury?
What should be the consequences?




[Edited by - arkrud on 09-12-2007 1:30 PM]
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9/12/2007  1:30 PM
Man you ever see the women that high profile athletes and men with money and power get? Why the heck didn't he hit on one of the Knick City dancers or hire himself a hot Assistant? I'm supposed to believe that he went from hating this chick to loving her and wanting to have a relationship with her after a game of horse? I just don't buy it.

Isiah may be a real jerk in reality, but I just get the feeling that the few incidents that she's mentioning are being blown way out of proportion. I think she's gonna end up losing this case. Him being a mean boss, even perhaps a guy with a nasty attitude and inappropriate statements has nothing to do with whether he sexually harrassed her or not.
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9/12/2007  2:01 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Man you ever see the women that high profile athletes and men with money and power get? Why the heck didn't he hit on one of the Knick City dancers or hire himself a hot Assistant? I'm supposed to believe that he went from hating this chick to loving her and wanting to have a relationship with her after a game of horse? I just don't buy it.

Isiah may be a real jerk in reality, but I just get the feeling that the few incidents that she's mentioning are being blown way out of proportion. I think she's gonna end up losing this case. Him being a mean boss, even perhaps a guy with a nasty attitude and inappropriate statements has nothing to do with whether he sexually harrassed her or not.

I believe winning the case is not a main goal for Sanders.
She wants to bring Isiah and MSG DOWN even if she will lose the harassment case.
Do not forget she was competitive bbal player and money is not only one thing that makes people happy.
Dolan as usual miscalculated the case. But this is fair. Morons should lose and pay the price.



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9/12/2007  2:36 PM
A former Uconn player that I know personally was considered one of the sweetest guys on the planet. Every girl wanted to be with him. He was portrayed in the papers as the nicest person on the planet. There were countless stories of how he spent his free time with underpriveleged children. There were countless stories of how great a father he was. To this day he is known as one of the good guys and to a point he probably is. But a few of us know a different person:

One day his girlfriend and his son showed up unnanounced at his appartment on campus. He was so po'd that he yelled at her in front of his son and told her to take her asse home, and call him before she visits. There were many other choice words thrown in, but I'm summarizing. She cried and left. The reason he had asked her to go home was because he and another teammate had hired three "pros" to come over and spend some time with them. These were two good looking guys that could get any woman they wanted, and yet he was seen running his son and girlfriend out of town so that he could spend time with 3 hookers. The next weekend he invited his girl and son up and showed them around campus like the great father and boyfriend that he was. The girls continued to swoon over the guy and admired how dedicated he was to his son.

Guys, we don't know these people. We want to, but we don't.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 12-09-2007 2:37 PM]
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9/12/2007  2:37 PM
i hope that statement is true, and he doesn't get fired
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9/12/2007  2:54 PM
Anucha Brown what you just did was black on black crime. You don't hear the white front office snitching on each other when they are talking about niggers flying in the air, running and jumping. And I am positive the are using the word nigger as well. Did she really need to say that in a ****ing sexual harassment case? I swear we are the only race that embraces disgrace.
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9/12/2007  3:05 PM
I think she did need to bring it up for the mere fact that isiah, is a piece of garbage and a snake. I have no doubt that racist comments are made on both sides.

But the mere fact that he brings in dog **** players with no work ethics, bad guys that don't give a ****, undermines everyone he can, blateleny mistreated two good men Chaney and Wilkens, and the Larry Brown disaster there is a pattern in this organization.

There is a reason we have won 33, 23, 33 games and it's because he much like the players think they are better than they are when in fact they ain't **** with the exception of a few hard workers.
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