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misterearl
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8/29/2007  4:25 PM
$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

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misterearl
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8/29/2007  4:25 PM
$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

Go Haliburton



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misterearl
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8/29/2007  4:25 PM
$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

Go Haliburton



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misterearl
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8/29/2007  4:27 PM
$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

Go Haliburton



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misterearl
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8/29/2007  4:28 PM
$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

Go Haliburton



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8/29/2007  5:11 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Bippity10:

the poor get nothing because the only power they have(The vote) is given away every election.

So tell me why ( poor illegal immigrants ) has the goverment to make their native language acceptable on everything from phone information service (where they say in spanish press 2), to alternative reading labels on products, instead of the english being the only language accepted in our country ?

According to you the poor don't have power

When did I say poor don't have power? They have power. They have plenty of it. The vote is more powerful than anything on the planet if you use it. We have all been divided into segments in part of a political game. We aren't americans according to politicians. We are hispanics and blacks and poor and rich and men and women. It's not what is best for the country it is what can I do to get enough of the black/hispanic/gay/poor vote to get elected. They throw a bone our way in order to get elected and then go back to their cushy jobs to make the changes for the people really in power. The rich. Those that force the politicians to make changes. In the end we go back to voting for them and they pat us on the head and say good boy!

Politicians are terrified of the hispanic vote. In the next 2-8 years we could be adding millions of registered hispanic voters to our country. They do not know where it is going so politicinas are tripping over themselves trying cater to the "hispanic vote". That's life.

The truth once again in New Orleans to me is simple. We knew NO was a danger zone years before this happened. Nothing was done to change it. No one was outraged. Then NOrleans happened and the reply of the government was predictable. Now we want someone to get. So we blame the Bush's because that makes us feel better. Now the Bush administration should be held accountable. I'm not sayign they shouldn't. But I am saying that after that, then what? We go back to our regular lives feeling better about ourselves and move on. OR do we start to force government to change these things before they occur. IIf we don't the song will remain the same and in 2040 we will be wondering why the government hasn't done anything after the next major catastrophe. We need to stop being beholden to one government party and force them to earn our votes by making true changes. If we keep voting Democrat by default this will not be the last Katrina.



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8/29/2007  5:17 PM
Posted by misterearl:

$50 Billion for Iraq?

bippity - sounds like economic cleansing is alive and well in the US.

Go Haliburton

Dude I think you are completely missing my point. Do you think I'm condoning Iraq? ARe you under the impression that I feel that the government shouldn't be spending their money in New Orleans. Once again I am 100% in agreement with you but you are so busy listening to yourself that you fail to listen to others.

Their is a major difference between what the government should be doing, and what they actually will do. They will not change what they are doing until forced into doing what they should. Status quo will reign until the people affected change. The current status quo is as follows

Government does nothing to fix problem and instead spends money on pleasing those that can affect election
Problem explodes into catastrophe
People affected blame current party and demand heads
Heads roll
People feel good
Next party goes back to doing nothing and not fixing problems for anyone except those that can affect elections.

We are reactionary and this is why the poor continually get screwed.




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8/29/2007  6:29 PM
Corporations buying up land is the ONLY way New Orleans will recover.

The problem was there way before flooding. The problem was that were NO jobs in the area. No manufacturing, no service sector, the city survived by tourism. It was mostly a huge slum.

Corporations buying up land means they are going to build businesses there, which means jobs. Jobs for the same poor people who close to nothing and existed on government aid before this.

Businesses buying up land in order to develop is a good thing, end of story. If it took a flood to get to the point of where the government provided adequate tax incentives than be it. The city will be better off than it was for years once the redevelopment is on the way.

If the big bad corporations were not buying up land you would really have something to worry about, as in a ghost city.
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8/30/2007  12:05 PM
Posted by simrud:

Corporations buying up land is the ONLY way New Orleans will recover.

Jobs for the same poor people who close to nothing and existed on government aid before this.

Sounds like slavery or sharecropping to me, nothing to get excited about.

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8/30/2007  5:48 PM
No, existing off of government aid with no hope of working your way up to anything is like slavery. That is the status quo. That is what the Democrats profit from politically. Keeping black people poor so they keep voting for Democrats because they promise them government handouts.

Redevelopment and real jobs is what raises people out of poverty. How you fail to see that is beyond me. Mexicans come to this county and work for less than minimum wage and and move up eventually. Some of them buy houses within 20 years. They take the exact jobs that the American poor refuse to do because they would rather receive welfare checks. So they stay on the bottom while yet another immigration wave passes them by.
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8/31/2007  1:43 PM
"Corporations buying up land is the ONLY way New Orleans will recover."

Meanwhile, back on point

simrud - "(Bush) used the August vacation — when lawmakers were largely laying low at home — to reassert his determination to stay the course. The White House also let it be known that it plans to ask Congress for more money — perhaps another $50 billion — beyond $600 billion already requested to maintain the counteroffensive in Iraq into spring 2008. Some people think the administration will get it."

- NYT

Now, how much would it require The Army Corps of Engineers, with the same public taxes, to design and build a state-of-the art levee system for the Gulf Coast?

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9/2/2007  11:17 PM
It does not matter how much it would require them. Government should not and cannot be counted on for such things. Corporations should pay up for the profits they will get after they invest in the infrastructure. They should be encouraged with tax breaks, but corporate welfare has no place in a free market economy.
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