Knicks won 33 games and did not make playoffs.

Knicks also did some summer get together last year.

The chemistry thing is great, and the words used are great.

I think we are all exicited about the up coming season and see if all this wonderful words and actions translate to more wins.

Until then its valid to b!tch about last season and its valid (IMHO) to go off on marbury who has really let down fans regarding his leadership and play level that was hyped to fans, and hyped by him.

We all hope:

Balky is the next Rodman off the bench.
Lee is solid 10-10 monster off the bench.
Chandler is the next Grant Hill.
Nichols is the next Glen Rice.
the formation of "Zeddy" is a stroke of genious and most dominent inside presence in the League!
Marbury finds the fountain of youthier and uses his new found love for things Italian and becomes "Diablo" on the court!

thats just a short list of hopes, and if true we will win more!

If not then THE PRESENT LEVEL OF PLAY WILL RESULT!

I think that is an important statement. Some think that the team has moved on, Some just hope, and others baseline the team based on facts. The fact remains a 33 win season. Its the intangables that are hopeful.

Posted by nixluva:

If i'm not mistaken is Eddy working with Q and other guys in Chicago? I seem to remember that they get together there in the offseason.

Q was apparently at this workout

i just want to point out i made my post at 8:50pm. i am a victim of anti-dj-ism.

Posted by mythfaze:

Posted by misterearl:

Hold up, since when did having outside interests become an automatic deduction? I'm just thankful that Steph has seen the light and dedicated some energy to what he considers noble causes.

He showed up heavier than normal? Big deal. Shedding weight, for most ballers, is not an issue - given the nature of the game. I really don't think Stephon Marbury and Hot Plate Williams belong in the same sentence.

Speculation, schmecualtion... he was seen in the gym with Wilson Chandler.

That's good enough for me.

Wilson Chandler for Mayor!

Funny you should mention that, given the problems that plague the centers on our roster...

And if he started slowly last season (honestly at this point I don't remember) then Marbury's excess weight WAS a big deal. You should be ready to go by day 1. You start taking games and parts of the season off and you end up like last years Miami heat.

All that being said, there is still a long time before the season starts. Hopefully Marbury (and all the Knicks) will be in top shape and hungry by training camp.

In my opinion, voluntary workouts like this say only good things about those who attended and nothing bad about the rest.

To those who went, it shows dedication and a willingness to work hard to improve during the offseason.

To those who did not show, there could be 100 good reasons why they didn't.

On that note. Is Big Game exempt from working out during the summer?

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by mythfaze:

Posted by misterearl:

Hold up, since when did having outside interests become an automatic deduction? I'm just thankful that Steph has seen the light and dedicated some energy to what he considers noble causes.

He showed up heavier than normal? Big deal. Shedding weight, for most ballers, is not an issue - given the nature of the game. I really don't think Stephon Marbury and Hot Plate Williams belong in the same sentence.

Speculation, schmecualtion... he was seen in the gym with Wilson Chandler.

That's good enough for me.

Wilson Chandler for Mayor!

Funny you should mention that, given the problems that plague the centers on our roster...

And if he started slowly last season (honestly at this point I don't remember) then Marbury's excess weight WAS a big deal. You should be ready to go by day 1. You start taking games and parts of the season off and you end up like last years Miami heat.

All that being said, there is still a long time before the season starts. Hopefully Marbury (and all the Knicks) will be in top shape and hungry by training camp.

In my opinion, voluntary workouts like this say only good things about those who attended and nothing bad about the rest.

To those who went, it shows dedication and a willingness to work hard to improve during the offseason.

To those who did not show, there could be 100 good reasons why they didn't.

On that note. Is Big Game exempt from working out during the summer?

Not just the summer, he's exempt from working out. Period. He managed to somehow negotiate that clause into his $30 million contract. Understandable, of course, based on how tired he was after his playoff performance with the Sonics... who wouldn't expect to be rewarded with $30 million and 5 years rest?

every knick was out of shape last year.

Who really cares if Jerome James is exempt from anything?

Good knowledge, this is going to be quite the season...as a fan, you stick by your team through thick (yankees in the 90's) and thin (yankees in the 80's).

However the pen is mightier than the sword, and some posters just have a way with words that is biting and rude.

Unfortunately, these are the "realists".

But in the end, I'm pretty sure everyone (with the exception of trueblue and islesfan) will be posting positive.

I'm not one of those championship or bust fans because i realize there is a ton of luck involved with winning a title, after that, it's like a freight train of multiples.

The key is to find the luck to win just that one.

So, we root and root and root.

Didn't anybody see major league?

he was out of shape.

Some of these discussions get so annoying.
I can't wait for the season to start.
Document this!

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by babyKnicks:

he was out of shape.

What's your criteria for saying that? How do you know this for sure? How did you determine his actual fitness level? You could be right, but I don't know how we can be sure this was the case.

nix, this is a fan message board where people are in large part expressing their opinions. If everything stated had to be backed up by what you are asking for, nothing would ever be posted.

So I can expect to see the return of Dido?