Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

Aside from Sabathia the Indians pitching is really weak and so is their bullpen. The only guy that legitimately scares me in that lineup is Hafner too.

Chamberlain and Kennedy aren't far off but remember that they started the year in Single A ball. Just getting to Triple A by the end of July is a huge jump.

I'd rather not see them come up this year for anything more than a cup of coffee with the September call-ups. I don't want to see Joba forced into a prominent setup role just because the Yankees need help there.

Could Joba potentially be groomed as Mo's replacement as closer?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

Aside from Sabathia the Indians pitching is really weak and so is their bullpen. The only guy that legitimately scares me in that lineup is Hafner too.

Yea, that Sizemore guy is a joke.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

False hope?

The Royals just took 2 out of 3 from Boston in Fenway. And then they took 2 out of 3 from the Tigers in Detroit.

Neither the Red Sox or Tigers beat up on those pitchers.

Who the hell are the Indians that the Yankees shouldn't feel that they're better than them?

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

Aside from Sabathia the Indians pitching is really weak and so is their bullpen. The only guy that legitimately scares me in that lineup is Hafner too.

Sizemore is a very good player too.

The Indians don't scare anybody. The Yankees still do.

I didnt mention Sizemore because he doesn't scare me, mainly because he's single/doubles hitter with only guy behind him that will get him home. Sizemore is a tremendous hitter and fielder but at this point, if you a mistake to Hafner you are going to be regretting it alot more than you are going to be if you made that same mistake to Sizemore.

Trust me, Sizemore is a guy I want the on the Yankees. He is tailor-made for this offense and for the 3spot with the guys that would be hitting behind him.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-25-2007 12:27 PM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

Aside from Sabathia the Indians pitching is really weak and so is their bullpen. The only guy that legitimately scares me in that lineup is Hafner too.

Sizemore is a very good player too.

The Indians don't scare anybody. The Yankees still do.

I didnt mention Sizemore because he doesn't scare me, mainly because he's single/doubles hitter with only guy behind him that will get him home. Sizemore is a tremendous hitter and fielder but at this point, if you a mistake to Hafner you are going to be regretting it alot more than you are going to be if you made that same mistake to Sizemore.

Trust me, Sizemore is a guy I want the on the Yankees. He is tailor-made for this offense and for the 3spot with the guys that would be hitting behind him.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-25-2007 12:27 PM]

I hear what you're saying. Hafner is the main guy in their lineup. But Sizemore and Martinez can hurt you just as much.

The Indians have a nice lineup and a good team. But if you match them up to the Yankees, the Yankees are still the better team. The Indians have a much tougher schedule and I think they'll have a hard time holding off the Yankees or Red Sox for the wildcard.

Because of the blizzard in Cleveland earlier in the season, the Indians are going to have to play a brutal stretch of 26 straight games without a day off, starting in the middle of August. Those games include games against Detroit (3), Minnesota (6), White Sox (6) and LA Angels (4). I predict, that will be the end of the Indians season.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

the key is just getting into the playoffs b/c as st. louis proved last year, any team can win it if their pitchers get hot at the right time.

Thats true, but don't you see their play now as false hope? They aren't beating anyone good, their bats *should* be beating up on these pitchers. Do you really think they are better than the Indians?

there's no false hope. the yankees are not that good a team - that's something most yankee fans realize. having non-yankee fans bring that up is actually amusing to me personally b/c it doesn't effect me. it's things we already know.

all i know is that the yanks are now 4.5 games behind the indians for the wildcard. that's striking distance.

they're 7.5 out of the AL east with 6 games remaining vs. bostong - that's striking distance.

anything can happen but i'm watching EVERY game b/c EVERY game is important.

Totally agree.

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by VDesai:

Brackman's gonna need Tommy John. He's several years away.

But between Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy they have 3 flat out stud starting pitching prospects. And Alan Horne is not that far behind.

Jeff Marquez, Tyler Clippard and Kevin Whelan aren't bad either (and all are close to the majors).

Dellin Betances is another potential star.


Anyway its actually about to get real exciting in sports. Training Camp is starting up. This NBA ref story is also gonna blow up big time.

You forgot Ohlendorf, Jackson and Sanchez. Sanchez is going to need a year to recover from Tommy John but he has a power arm and pitchers are coming back strong from that surgery. So I have a lot of hoe for Sanchez and Brackman. Ohlendorf can hopefully be a back of the rotation arm or a decent setup guy.

2009 Rotation for the new Yankee Stadium:

Johan Santana
Phil Hughes
Chien Ming Wang
Joba Chamberlain
Ian Kennedy

Would love to see that roation, but what are the odds one of them gets dealt for Mark Texiera (sp)?

I hope to God none. I don't want Texeira, especially if it costs us Chamberlain. Asking for Hughes is just a complete joke. I wouldn't give up Kennedy either. Sign Texiera after the 2008 season if they need him. They don't need his offense and Phillips is adequate defensively.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by TMS:

this is what's so annoying about Met fans... they talk so much trash in May & June as if the baseball season was only 3 months in duration... wait til the end of September & into October & see where you stand before you talk any trash... i'd say there's a damn good chance the Braves beat you guys out for the division this year yet again, but i'm sure you're already worried about that anyway.

Geez, talk about anger. Hey, i'm happy for you yankee fans, keep hope alive! See you in october.... or not, because your team is a mess and will never make the playoffs with no starting pitching or bullpen. But, Good Luck in 2009!

you're right, our team is a complete mess... we have the best player in baseball, the best closer in baseball, the best catcher in baseball, 2 of the best pitching prospects in baseball about to be called up, & the best owner in baseball who's willing to spend whatever it takes to bring a winning product to the NY fans... but hey, we can't all be winners like you Met fans... 2 championships & counting baby! Ya Gotta Believe!

Why are you even bothering with a Mets fan?

Last year the St Louis Cardinals were a mess and barely made it into the playoffs. Ask the Mets fan how that worked out.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by TMS:

this is what's so annoying about Met fans... they talk so much trash in May & June as if the baseball season was only 3 months in duration... wait til the end of September & into October & see where you stand before you talk any trash... i'd say there's a damn good chance the Braves beat you guys out for the division this year yet again, but i'm sure you're already worried about that anyway.

Geez, talk about anger. Hey, i'm happy for you yankee fans, keep hope alive! See you in october.... or not, because your team is a mess and will never make the playoffs with no starting pitching or bullpen. But, Good Luck in 2009!

you're right, our team is a complete mess... we have the best player in baseball, the best closer in baseball, the best catcher in baseball, 2 of the best pitching prospects in baseball about to be called up, & the best owner in baseball who's willing to spend whatever it takes to bring a winning product to the NY fans... but hey, we can't all be winners like you Met fans... 2 championships & counting baby! Ya Gotta Believe!

Why are you even bothering with a Mets fan?

Last year the St Louis Cardinals were a mess and barely made it into the playoffs. Ask the Mets fan how that worked out.

it's all in good fun.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by TMS:

this is what's so annoying about Met fans... they talk so much trash in May & June as if the baseball season was only 3 months in duration... wait til the end of September & into October & see where you stand before you talk any trash... i'd say there's a damn good chance the Braves beat you guys out for the division this year yet again, but i'm sure you're already worried about that anyway.

Geez, talk about anger. Hey, i'm happy for you yankee fans, keep hope alive! See you in october.... or not, because your team is a mess and will never make the playoffs with no starting pitching or bullpen. But, Good Luck in 2009!

you're right, our team is a complete mess... we have the best player in baseball, the best closer in baseball, the best catcher in baseball, 2 of the best pitching prospects in baseball about to be called up, & the best owner in baseball who's willing to spend whatever it takes to bring a winning product to the NY fans... but hey, we can't all be winners like you Met fans... 2 championships & counting baby! Ya Gotta Believe!

Best player, yes i'll give you that. But right now that comparison is like in the 90s when Kemp was the man. Great in the regular season but never really accomplished much in the postseaon. Best closer....this isn't based on past years, only this year and thats a joke if you think he's the best this season. Yay, bring up the championship argument, when all is lost there is always how many rings we have when most of them weren't even in my lifetime and have nothing to do with the present season.