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franco12
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7/20/2007  11:39 AM
Posted by playa2:

I have been saying this for years, it happen in superbowls too...the latest was Pittsburg Steelers vs Seattle Seahawks.

The latest in the NBA was the Dallas vs Miami final and Stern knows all about it.

The love of money has ruined our sports and country.

If the ref that's getting busted was involved in Miami/Dallas, what do you think Cuban will do? He'll loose it!
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bigbeast
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7/20/2007  11:46 AM
Posted by lovespree:

Uh yeah- it's been so obvious that the refs's were either fixing games for gambling purposes and/or for the NBA itself. Especially during the Jordan era. Not taking anything away from Jordan but fouls were never called on him - especially during 4th qrtrs. The most notorious non-foul call was during the Final against Utah when he empahtically pushed off(can't remember who was guarding him) and hit the game winning jumper. It's ridiculous. It's even relevant to the Knicks. Back in the Ewing, Oakley/Mason days we were known as the thugs of the NBA (an image that the league was trying to get away from) and we cert. received bogus calls.

So one Ref gets cited on probably fixing games in 05-06 and 06-07, and now you assume Jordans games were fixed aswell? Yeah, its the refs fault that Charles Smith blew like 4 layups in a row to lose us that series.
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7/20/2007  11:54 AM
Knicks did pretty well with two last-second playoff gifts, both of which essentially gave us the series: the 3pt foul to Hubert Davis vs the Bulls, and the LJ 4pt play.
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7/20/2007  12:10 PM
Maybe more refs should be checked out and monitored. Gambling is a helluva drug!

Ever wonder why we don't know anything about how much money refs make and when they get raises ?
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7/20/2007  12:39 PM
So one Ref gets cited on probably fixing games in 05-06 and 06-07, and now you assume Jordans games were fixed aswell? Yeah, its the refs fault that Charles Smith blew like 4 layups in a row to lose us that series.
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I sure do. Anybody with eyes could see that Jordan always received favorable calls. Whether it was because the league wanted to keep the rosy Jordan image alive or it was some paid-for ref, Jordan definetly received preferential treatment.

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7/20/2007  12:51 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Knicks did pretty well with two last-second playoff gifts, both of which essentially gave us the series: the 3pt foul to Hubert Davis vs the Bulls, and the LJ 4pt play.


I'll give you Hubert- but if anything it was payback for no Smith foul call the year before. LJ 4 pt play was legit IMO.
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7/20/2007  1:13 PM
Steven A. Smith knows who it is and is talking about it on ESPN radio 1050. The ref is from New Jersey and supposedly isn't that old.
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7/20/2007  1:17 PM
Actually I think the LJ play was a makeup call, if you go back to game two, marcus camby was in clear position to get the offensive foul call and they made a horrible call right after making a horrible call on ewing a play before......

Would have been 2-0 and we would've won anyway
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7/20/2007  1:28 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Steven A. Smith knows who it is and is talking about it on ESPN radio 1050. The ref is from New Jersey and supposedly isn't that old.

Jersey connections. Hmmm...

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7/20/2007  1:45 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Steven A. Smith knows who it is and is talking about it on ESPN radio 1050. The ref is from New Jersey and supposedly isn't that old.

Jersey connections. Hmmm...


Delaney, Salvatore, Joe Derosa, Ken Mauer, Jes Kersey????????



Here's an up to date list of NBA refs

# name
06 Jimmy Clark
07 Bernie Fryer
08 Luis Grillo
09 Derrick Stafford
10 Ron Garrettson
11 Phil Robinson
12 Violet Palmer
13 Monty McCutchen
14 Joe DeRosa
15 Bennett Salvatore
17 Joe Crawford
18 Mark Wunderlich
19 James Capers
20 Jess Kersey
21 Tim Donaghy
22 Bill Spooner
23 Jason Phillips
24 Mike Callahan
25 Tony Brothers
26 Bob Delaney



# name
27 Dick Bavetta
28 Tommy Nunez
29 Steve Javie
30 Tony Brown
31 Scott Wall
32 Eddie F. Rush
33 Sean Corbin
34 Marc Davis
35 Jack Nies
36 David Jones
37 Anthony Jordan
38 Michael Smith
39 Kevin Fehr
40 Leon Wood
41 Ken Mauer
42 Eric Lewis
43 Dan Crawford
44 Ron Olesiak
45 Joe Forte
46 Matt Boland
47 Bennie Adams



# name
48 Scott Foster
49 Tom Washington
50 Olandis Poole
51 Leroy Richardson
52 Pat Fraher
53 Robbie Robinson
54 Derek Collins
55 Bill Kennedy
56 Mark Ayotte
57 Greg Willard
58 Zach Zarba
59 Gary Zielinski
60 David Guthrie
61 Courtney Kirkland
63 Derek Richardson
64 Eli Roe
65 Sean Wright
68 Tony Greene
71 Rodney Mott
72 Haywood Workman
73 Ed Malloy


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7/20/2007  1:50 PM
My guess is Bob Delaney since he was undercover for the FBI for a few years with the mafia. I wonder if he made some friends in there that didn't get put away in jail and he got mixed up in a betting ring. Just a guess.
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kam77
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7/20/2007  1:58 PM
http://whichref.com/
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
kam77
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7/20/2007  1:59 PM
ESPN saying its Tim Donaghy
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
VDesai
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7/20/2007  2:30 PM
Tim Donaghy is the ref that Rasheed Wallace had an incident with a few years back when he was on the Blazers.
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7/20/2007  2:31 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Tim Donaghy is the ref that Rasheed Wallace had an incident with a few years back when he was on the Blazers.

Which one was he? #7 or #11?
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VDesai
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7/20/2007  2:36 PM
He's #21
playa2
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7/20/2007  4:51 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Steven A. Smith knows who it is and is talking about it on ESPN radio 1050. The ref is from New Jersey and supposedly isn't that old.

Jersey connections. Hmmm...


Delaney, Salvatore, Joe Derosa, Ken Mauer, Jes Kersey????????



Here's an up to date list of NBA refs

# name
06 Jimmy Clark
07 Bernie Fryer
08 Luis Grillo
09 Derrick Stafford
10 Ron Garrettson
11 Phil Robinson
12 Violet Palmer
13 Monty McCutchen
14 Joe DeRosa
15 Bennett Salvatore
17 Joe Crawford
18 Mark Wunderlich
19 James Capers
20 Jess Kersey
21 Tim Donaghy
22 Bill Spooner
23 Jason Phillips
24 Mike Callahan
25 Tony Brothers
26 Bob Delaney



# name
27 Dick Bavetta
28 Tommy Nunez
29 Steve Javie
30 Tony Brown
31 Scott Wall
32 Eddie F. Rush
33 Sean Corbin
34 Marc Davis
35 Jack Nies
36 David Jones
37 Anthony Jordan
38 Michael Smith
39 Kevin Fehr
40 Leon Wood
41 Ken Mauer
42 Eric Lewis
43 Dan Crawford
44 Ron Olesiak
45 Joe Forte
46 Matt Boland
47 Bennie Adams



# name
48 Scott Foster
49 Tom Washington
50 Olandis Poole
51 Leroy Richardson
52 Pat Fraher
53 Robbie Robinson
54 Derek Collins
55 Bill Kennedy
56 Mark Ayotte
57 Greg Willard
58 Zach Zarba
59 Gary Zielinski
60 David Guthrie
61 Courtney Kirkland
63 Derek Richardson
64 Eli Roe
65 Sean Wright
68 Tony Greene
71 Rodney Mott
72 Haywood Workman
73 Ed Malloy


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playa2
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7/20/2007  7:14 PM
Stephen A:

"long time ref..."

"one of the best in the business..."

This is a bad, man.

Edit: He's also from the east coast. Like Jersey or something like that....

They got a tape of him placing a bet on a Bulls/Blazers game.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
TrueBlue
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7/20/2007  7:26 PM
Posted by playa2:

Stephen A:

"long time ref..."

"one of the best in the business..."

This is a bad, man.

Edit: He's also from the east coast. Like Jersey or something like that....

They got a tape of him placing a bet on a Bulls/Blazers game.


Playa he's already been identified in this thread
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BigC
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7/20/2007  7:29 PM


He looks pissed.
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