Posted by TMS:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by TMS:

i agree, it's a good idea to wait & see how it develops... but if the price is Nate, the expirings & either Nichols or Chandler, would u do it?

It's hard to say no to that on principal. But I think we need to drive a hard bargain here. I don't think Sac wants him anymore and his value is way down around the league is way down b/c he's a freaking nut. If they also are moving Bibby, they could get themselves close to under the cap.

not to mention whoever gets him already won't have him for the first 7 games of the season because of that suspension... i agree, Isiah needs to drive a hard bargain if he can, but a package like that seems more than reasonable to me considering how good of a player Artest is... i'd probably make the deal & include Chandler along w/Nate & the expirings if SAC would be down for it... i like Nichol's perimeter shooting ability, & that if we're trading Nate, Nichols is our only real perimeter shooter other than Jamal coming off the bench.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by TMS:

i agree, it's a good idea to wait & see how it develops... but if the price is Nate, the expirings & either Nichols or Chandler, would u do it?

It's hard to say no to that on principal. But I think we need to drive a hard bargain here. I don't think Sac wants him anymore and his value is way down around the league is way down b/c he's a freaking nut. If they also are moving Bibby, they could get themselves close to under the cap.

not to mention whoever gets him already won't have him for the first 7 games of the season because of that suspension... i agree, Isiah needs to drive a hard bargain if he can, but a package like that seems more than reasonable to me considering how good of a player Artest is... i'd probably make the deal & include Chandler along w/Nate & the expirings if SAC would be down for it... i like Nichol's perimeter shooting ability, & that if we're trading Nate, Nichols is our only real perimeter shooter other than Jamal coming off the bench.

It's hard to say who Isiah values more right now: Balkman or Chandler. Obviously we all like Balkman b/c we've seen a year of him- but they were drafted around the same pick, playing the same position. Hard to say who he likes more at this point.

Posted by TMS:

i agree, it's a good idea to wait & see how it develops... but if the price is Nate, the expirings & either Nichols or Chandler, would u do it?

Posted by fishmike:

my god Mardy Collins? His upside is a less athletic Eric Snow. Please people. Dude will be fighting for a guarenteed contract in a couple of years.

If Sac wants any combo of Nate, Mardy, Chandler, Nichols, our two expirings in Jones and Dickau and some cash, then they have a deal.

Hell... I would offer all six for Artest. This team is going nowhere without Artest anyway, so who cares if he blows up. If he behaives (even a little) we become contenders in the east.

Artest is 27 years old and one of the best players in the NBA. The only reason he's got a shot of coming here is he's coocoo for coco puffs

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by fishmike:

my god Mardy Collins? His upside is a less athletic Eric Snow. Please people. Dude will be fighting for a guarenteed contract in a couple of years.

If Sac wants any combo of Nate, Mardy, Chandler, Nichols, our two expirings in Jones and Dickau and some cash, then they have a deal.

Hell... I would offer all six for Artest. This team is going nowhere without Artest anyway, so who cares if he blows up. If he behaives (even a little) we become contenders in the east.

Artest is 27 years old and one of the best players in the NBA. The only reason he's got a shot of coming here is he's coocoo for coco puffs

Thats 4 #1 draft picks for artest. That is WAY TOO MUCH. You are mortaging the future for a big question. That trade is coocoo for coco puffs.Crazy , crazy stuff.

4 LATE #1 picks. actually 3 b/c nichols was a 2nd rounder.

and the cumulative value of those 4 players don't even come close to the impact of ron ron.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by fishmike:

my god Mardy Collins? His upside is a less athletic Eric Snow. Please people. Dude will be fighting for a guarenteed contract in a couple of years.

less athletic Eric Snow? do they get any less athletic than that guy?

so you catch my drift exactly...

Artest totally changes the make up of this team. I am not sure there is another player short of Duncan or Lebron that could have a bigger impact on this team. Chandler and Mardy may or may not be good players, but they arent sniffing Artest.

This is a gamble you make... plain and simple.

Im totaqlly with you, we cant be ridiculous. Mardy, Nate, D. Lee, Balkman, Chandler, can all go for Ron Ron.


But Id trade any combination of those players, what they bring to the table is either already accounted for, or easily replaceable.

I dont want to trade nichols, because as a shooter, he seems to be the real deal, and we havent had a sharp shooter on our team since H20 left. Shooters are a rare commodity, but I would throw Nichols in too if thats what the deal required.

I dont wanna overpay, but I dont wanna go overboard being stingy either.


[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07-17-2007 6:06 PM]

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07-17-2007 6:10 PM]

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by fishmike:

my god Mardy Collins? His upside is a less athletic Eric Snow. Please people. Dude will be fighting for a guarenteed contract in a couple of years.

less athletic Eric Snow? do they get any less athletic than that guy?

so you catch my drift exactly...

Artest totally changes the make up of this team. I am not sure there is another player short of Duncan or Lebron that could have a bigger impact on this team. Chandler and Mardy may or may not be good players, but they arent sniffing Artest.

This is a gamble you make... plain and simple.

Im totaqlly with you, we cant be ridiculous. Mardy, Nate, D. Lee, Balkman, Chandler, can all go for Ron Ron.


But Id trade any combination of those players, what they bring to the table is either already accounted for, or easily replaceable.

I dont want to trade nichols, because as a shooter, he seems to be the real deal, and we havent had a sharp shooter on our team since H20 left. Shooters are a rare commodity, but I would throw Nichols in too if thats what the deal required.

I dont wanna overpay, but I dont wanna go overboard being stingy either.


[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07-17-2007 6:06 PM]

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07-17-2007 6:10 PM]

I think the Kings would be lucky to get Nate + a Bucket of Chicken right now. Who wants him???? and he can also opt out after the season. I Guarentee that nobody but The Knicks are knocking at the kings door for artest.


[Edited by - kevlofton on 07-17-2007 10:28 PM]