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7/17/2007  11:03 AM
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"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said. "Rather we want to find a team suitable for Yi's growth. That's the root of the problem," he added.

Am I alone in flat-out not buying this?

Isn't this what Eli Manning did? Why does the agenda have to be different when a foreigner wants to pull the American Way?
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7/17/2007  11:12 AM
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For the NBA, it has nothing to do with Yi and everything to do with the Chinese market. I bet Stern is more disgusted with the Bucks for putting him and the league in this situation since Chinese officials made themselves very clear that they didn't want Yi to be drafted by the Bucks.

I think Yi has a chance to be a good player in the league. Needs lots of work though, work that he can't get in China. He needs to play at the NBA level to improve.

I find it comical how fans have all this disgust toward Yi and his Camp yet we've experienced in recent yrs Steve Francis, Chris Webber, and I forget who else do the same thing. Yeah fans were a little ticked but you didn't hear stuff like "Send C-Webb and Francis to the CBA or overseas"! Fans wanted a trade consummated and all was good as long as the trade was good. If the NBA wouldn't have allowed this type of ISH to go on with Players totally running this league we wouldn't be experiencing this today. I'm glad Yi is attempting to pull the American way here. One of the most hypocritically ran countries in the world. I hope Yi flops on the Bucks and this will add to Stern's Black Eye record as a GM. Isles you are correct as usual Larry Harris is a moron for selecting him.


As for Yi kid just needs to go away. Whether he, or his agent, the CBA, the representitives in China, whatever...he's a soft Chinese kid who has shown so far that he gets rocked against any serious competition. Serious competition including high school kids from America.

What has he proven? What numbers has he put up in the NBA to be such a prima donna? He is no Kobe not even a Stevie Franchise.

I don't get Milwaukee's whole stance on "Yi will play for us this year!", unless it is smoke and mirrors to drive up his trade value. I thought for sure when they drafted him, it was for trade bait.

Stern is for what the china representitives want and that's a shame.

What team doesn't have tall talented guys on the roster already ?

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7/17/2007  11:32 AM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

For the NBA, it has nothing to do with Yi and everything to do with the Chinese market. I bet Stern is more disgusted with the Bucks for putting him and the league in this situation since Chinese officials made themselves very clear that they didn't want Yi to be drafted by the Bucks.

I think Yi has a chance to be a good player in the league. Needs lots of work though, work that he can't get in China. He needs to play at the NBA level to improve.

I find it comical how fans have all this disgust toward Yi and his Camp yet we've experienced in recent yrs Steve Francis, Chris Webber, and I forget who else do the same thing. Yeah fans were a little ticked but you didn't hear stuff like "Send C-Webb and Francis to the CBA or overseas"! Fans wanted a trade consummated and all was good as long as the trade was good. If the NBA wouldn't have allowed this type of ISH to go on with Players totally running this league we wouldn't be experiencing this today. I'm glad Yi is attempting to pull the American way here. One of the most hypocritically ran countries in the world. I hope Yi flops on the Bucks and this will add to Stern's Black Eye record as a GM. Isles you are correct as usual Larry Harris is a moron for selecting him.


As for Yi kid just needs to go away. Whether he, or his agent, the CBA, the representitives in China, whatever...he's a soft Chinese kid who has shown so far that he gets rocked against any serious competition. Serious competition including high school kids from America.

What has he proven? What numbers has he put up in the NBA to be such a prima donna? He is no Kobe not even a Stevie Franchise.

I don't get Milwaukee's whole stance on "Yi will play for us this year!", unless it is smoke and mirrors to drive up his trade value. I thought for sure when they drafted him, it was for trade bait.

Stern is for what the china representitives want and that's a shame.

What team doesn't have tall talented guys on the roster already ?


That's right Kobe was the other player


It doesn't matter what you think of him, his game, or what you think his future potential is Playa. And LOL @ you saying he's no Kobe. Uhhhhhhhh Kobe got drafted out of High School so he definitely hadn't accomplished "JACK SQUAT" up to that point. I'd say Yi played against better competition than Kobe did at the time of entering the draft. Kobe probably was a better player but their resume's were totally amateur on draft night. Once again why the double standard? I say more power to Yi and his camp to flex a juice card. Talk about a possible total waste of a 6th pick.
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7/17/2007  11:58 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Come on Stern, ban Yi from the NBA and while you're at it tell Yao to go home too until they stop being babies.

Right, because Yao is 1 of "them" too, right? Please.
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7/17/2007  12:01 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

For the NBA, it has nothing to do with Yi and everything to do with the Chinese market. I bet Stern is more disgusted with the Bucks for putting him and the league in this situation since Chinese officials made themselves very clear that they didn't want Yi to be drafted by the Bucks.

I think Yi has a chance to be a good player in the league. Needs lots of work though, work that he can't get in China. He needs to play at the NBA level to improve.

I find it comical how fans have all this disgust toward Yi and his Camp yet we've experienced in recent yrs Steve Francis, Chris Webber, and I forget who else do the same thing. Yeah fans were a little ticked but you didn't hear stuff like "Send C-Webb and Francis to the CBA or overseas"! Fans wanted a trade consummated and all was good as long as the trade was good.

It's exactly that, comical & pathetic the flippancy that people make ignorant comments with.
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7/17/2007  12:02 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by K22:
"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said. "Rather we want to find a team suitable for Yi's growth. That's the root of the problem," he added.

Am I alone in flat-out not buying this?

Isn't this what Eli Manning did? Why does the agenda have to be different when a foreigner wants to pull the American Way?

Welcome to America
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7/17/2007  12:05 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by K22:
"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said. "Rather we want to find a team suitable for Yi's growth. That's the root of the problem," he added.

Am I alone in flat-out not buying this?

Isn't this what Eli Manning did? Why does the agenda have to be different when a foreigner wants to pull the American Way?

Welcome to America

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with your last couple of posts? Could you elaborate?
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7/17/2007  12:06 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by TMS:
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For the NBA, it has nothing to do with Yi and everything to do with the Chinese market. I bet Stern is more disgusted with the Bucks for putting him and the league in this situation since Chinese officials made themselves very clear that they didn't want Yi to be drafted by the Bucks.

I think Yi has a chance to be a good player in the league. Needs lots of work though, work that he can't get in China. He needs to play at the NBA level to improve.

i think he's going to be good... MIL knew the risks when they picked him... now they're reaping what they sowed... they will end up trading him to a team like GS or HOU imo... NY has a big Chinese population too, but any deal for Yi will have to involve D Lee & Balkman most likely, & I don't see Isiah making that trade.

Would you make that trade? I don't think I can take that deal. Maybe DLee or Balk with Nate would do it for me.

I probably wouldn't, no. You just don't know the type of makeup this kid has. He may or may not excel in this market. IMO he's got a much bigger upside than either of those guys, but I already know that D Lee & Balk are tough-minded talented kids, & I wouldn't give them up unless I was getting a more established talent. I also don't know how Yi would fit on this roster considering how they want to play inside out. He would fit much better on a team like Phoenix or Dallas IMO, where they can utilize his running & gunning style game.

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7/17/2007  12:09 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
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"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said. "Rather we want to find a team suitable for Yi's growth. That's the root of the problem," he added.

Am I alone in flat-out not buying this?

Isn't this what Eli Manning did? Why does the agenda have to be different when a foreigner wants to pull the American Way?

Welcome to America

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with your last couple of posts? Could you elaborate?

I'm being sarcastic, but not directing it at you dude. It's the idiots with the "Go back to China & take your Chinese friends with you" type comments I'm addressing. But I don't feel like getting into another involved diatribe on the attitudes of a few ignorant individuals, so I'll just leave it at that.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-17-2007 12:10 PM]
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7/17/2007  12:14 PM
Why are people knocking the fact that Yi does not want to play for the Bucks? Like who the hell does. It's ok for Eli Manning, Kobe, Steve Francis,Kenny Anderson to say they will not play if they get drafted by a certain team, but Yi can not?

Players do this all the time it is just not leaked to the media all the time.
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Posted by BigC:

Why are people knocking the fact that Yi does not want to play for the Bucks? Like who the hell does. It's ok for Eli Manning, Kobe, Steve Francis,Kenny Anderson to say they will not play if they get drafted by a certain team, but Yi can not?

Players do this all the time it is just not leaked to the media all the time.

I don't think anyone thought it was ok when those players did the same thing Yi is doing. My stance isn't focused just on Yi, I don't like it at all when athletes try and direct where they go once they are drafted. It's like who the hell are you, just be happy you were even drafted and can make a boatload of money playing a friggen game. Suck it up and go wherever you're drafted.
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7/17/2007  12:26 PM
You know, you guys bring up good points about other players doing the same thing int he past and getting away with it.

But on the other hand, I did not like that other players were able to do it in the past. The point of the draft is to help bad teams so the league is competitive up and down.

Now, considering that during the last 15 odd years something like 4 teams won all the titles, obviously that is not happening.

Question than is, why have a draft? On the other hand NFL seems to succeed with the parity. What do you guys think?
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7/17/2007  12:27 PM
I don't get the parity thing. We want a different team to win the championship every year?
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7/17/2007  12:29 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BigC:

Why are people knocking the fact that Yi does not want to play for the Bucks? Like who the hell does. It's ok for Eli Manning, Kobe, Steve Francis,Kenny Anderson to say they will not play if they get drafted by a certain team, but Yi can not?

Players do this all the time it is just not leaked to the media all the time.

I don't think anyone thought it was ok when those players did the same thing Yi is doing. My stance isn't focused just on Yi, I don't like it at all when athletes try and direct where they go once they are drafted. It's like who the hell are you, just be happy you were even drafted and can make a boatload of money playing a friggen game. Suck it up and go wherever you're drafted.

I totally agree with you. Once again who could nip that in the bud? Stern but so far he hasn't done so because he has agendas of his own. If he knows it could potentially boost and market his league(Yao Ming to Houston) he doesn't care what these players may request especially foreigners. At the same time if American athletes can do so, well so can Yi and his camp. Some comments in this thread are very borderline racist/prejudice if you ask me.

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7/17/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by K22:
"This is not -- as media reports have said -- because Milwaukee, as a city with very few Chinese people, is not good for Yi's commercial development," Chen said. "Rather we want to find a team suitable for Yi's growth. That's the root of the problem," he added.

Am I alone in flat-out not buying this?

Isn't this what Eli Manning did? Why does the agenda have to be different when a foreigner wants to pull the American Way?

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with your last couple of posts? Could you elaborate?

I'm being sarcastic, but not directing it at you dude. It's the idiots with the "Go back to China & take your Chinese friends with you" type comments I'm addressing. But I don't feel like getting into another involved diatribe on the attitudes of a few ignorant individuals, so I'll just leave it at that.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-17-2007 12:10 PM]

It's not worth it TMS.

Although, I would like to say that since Eli Manning, John Elway and Steve Francis all did the same thing, I think the NFL should tell all white people and the NBA should tell all black people to go home until they stop being a bunch of babies.
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7/17/2007  12:34 PM
Well, the idea is to give every team fighting chance year in and year out. Thats how NFL goes. This gives fans of every team a reason to be into the season.

Also, its supposed to be parity in a sense that you have 30 quality teams, not 30 crappy teams, which is what we kinda have today in the NBA.

I don't see anything wrong with questioning whether you even want league enforced parity, which is why I ask do we really want a draft then?
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7/17/2007  12:40 PM
Posted by simrud:

Well, the idea is to give every team fighting chance year in and year out. Thats how NFL goes. This gives fans of every team a reason to be into the season.

Also, its supposed to be parity in a sense that you have 30 quality teams, not 30 crappy teams, which is what we kinda have today in the NBA.

I don't see anything wrong with questioning whether you even want league enforced parity, which is why I ask do we really want a draft then?


The NFL has a draft which helps out the parity but the NFL also has an excellent cap structure and Owners who don't cave in so much to giving players horrific deals. On the other hand Stern wants a Global, Star Ran, Paired, League that has a horrific Cap Backbone and the Dumbest GM's/Owners.

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7/17/2007  12:40 PM
I say we ban this clown from the NBA. Since when do players who never played a second in a single regular season game in the NBA get a chance to be choosy about where they belong, and how they should have their marketability carried out ? Give me a break, bust or not, this guy is already displaying a very poor attitude, a terrible work ethic. This is coming from someone who had a terrible summer league too.

Send this potential bust back to China, and ban him for a season because of his ridiculous "needs". This will also give the Chinese officials a lesson on who runs basketball in the world, the NBA.
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7/17/2007  12:44 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

I say we ban this clown from the NBA. Since when do players who never played a second in a single regular season game in the NBA get a chance to be choosy about where they belong, and how they should have their marketability carried out ? Give me a break, bust or not, this guy is already displaying a very poor attitude, a terrible work ethic. This is coming from someone who had a terrible summer league too.

Send this potential bust back to China, and ban him for a season because of his ridiculous "needs". This will also give the Chinese officials a lesson on who runs basketball in the world, the NBA.


We should have banned Kobe, Francis, and Webber then right?
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7/17/2007  12:47 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

I say we ban this clown from the NBA. Since when do players who never played a second in a single regular season game in the NBA get a chance to be choosy about where they belong, and how they should have their marketability carried out ? Give me a break, bust or not, this guy is already displaying a very poor attitude, a terrible work ethic. This is coming from someone who had a terrible summer league too.

Send this potential bust back to China, and ban him for a season because of his ridiculous "needs". This will also give the Chinese officials a lesson on who runs basketball in the world, the NBA.


We should have banned Kobe, Francis, and Webber then right?

No, they're American. That's different. Yeah, let's send those Chinamen back to where they came from. That'll teach em!

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