Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by fishmike:

Last year I said we should package Nate, Frye and the Chi pick for Josh Smith and I got laughed at. Hows that looking now?

i know for sure a few of us would have made that trade in a heartbeat... people probably had doubts that a package of Nate, Frye & the #23 probably would be enough to get him at that time considering how far Frye's value had dropped & the unknown quantity of a late 1st round pick (though Wilson Chandler seems to be a nice value pick for us right now)

Yep, I agree 100% I was one of those people that agreed with Fish, I've been on Josh Smith for quite some time. Who cares if the guy can't hit 3's. We don't have a SF whose a good 3point shooter right now anyway. I prefer my SFs to slash and play defense which is exactly what Josh does. If we are ever going to upgrade our shooting, it should come through the SG position, not the SF position. To say you wouldn't make this trade because Josh Smith is a 3point shooter is out of this world.

It's not that he can't hit 3's...its that he takes a a lot of em and can't hit em. That hurts the O.

Posted by MS:

Are you on drugs Randolf and Curry are halfcourt players, neither of which really likes getting up and down the floor, they are slow players, especially randolf who isn't very ahtletic, he is very good around the basket.

These two don't have any idea what rotating is, they are slow when it comes to reacting to the play

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by VDesai:



It's not that he can't hit 3's...its that he takes a a lot of em and can't hit em. That hurts the O.

I can understand that sentiment, but he's been on the Hawks who have nothing. Aside from Joe Johnson the Hawks really have no better options on offense. It wouldn't surprise me either if Josh was directed to shoot 3's because the team wants him to become a better 3point shooter, if they were bad shots I'm sure he would find himself on the bench.

I'm pretty confident that if Josh were on the Knicks he'd find many ways to bring his offensive attack to the lowpost dominant Knicks without any problems and at the same time he will be the shot-blocking prescense this team has sorely lacked.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by fishmike:

Last year I said we should package Nate, Frye and the Chi pick for Josh Smith and I got laughed at. Hows that looking now?

i know for sure a few of us would have made that trade in a heartbeat... people probably had doubts that a package of Nate, Frye & the #23 probably would be enough to get him at that time considering how far Frye's value had dropped & the unknown quantity of a late 1st round pick (though Wilson Chandler seems to be a nice value pick for us right now)

I am talking about after Frye's very impressive rookie year where only Chris Paul and a knee injury derailed him from ROY contention. Back when people were argueing if you could include him in a trade for Garnett.

Posted by purple012870:

So...you're giving away the back-up C (a guy who looks to be a very promising young rotation guy in the fron court) & starting SG? How about just letting Balkman develop???

That last trade gives us the worst SG situation in the NBA & the worst back-up C in the NBA.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by fishmike:

Last year I said we should package Nate, Frye and the Chi pick for Josh Smith and I got laughed at. Hows that looking now?

i know for sure a few of us would have made that trade in a heartbeat... people probably had doubts that a package of Nate, Frye & the #23 probably would be enough to get him at that time considering how far Frye's value had dropped & the unknown quantity of a late 1st round pick (though Wilson Chandler seems to be a nice value pick for us right now)

Yep, I agree 100% I was one of those people that agreed with Fish, I've been on Josh Smith for quite some time. Who cares if the guy can't hit 3's. We don't have a SF whose a good 3point shooter right now anyway. I prefer my SFs to slash and play defense which is exactly what Josh does. If we are ever going to upgrade our shooting, it should come through the SG position, not the SF position. To say you wouldn't make this trade because Josh Smith is a 3point shooter is out of this world.

It's not that he can't hit 3's...its that he takes a a lot of em and can't hit em. That hurts the O.

You can't some that. It's like the grass is greener, type of thing. Fish thinks he is on the verge of stardom and many in Atlanta want to strangle him after one his bonehead plays.

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by MS:

if you realistically think that eddy can run up and down the court without needed oxygen you haven't been watching the guy, let eddy run down court and not get the ball, watch how much he hustles or complains

I pretty much watched every minute of every game after the first 2 weeks of the season and I saw Curry repeatedly beating his man down court and often being the first Knick down court. Maybe you should forget the hype and go back and watch the games again. Very few centers are faster than Curry down the court.

but that's only going from defense to offense. he does a good job getting down and establishing his position. but he doesn't hustle the same way getting back on D.

Posted by MS:

How ghetto do you want to make this team? Because if you bring this kid on with Randolf it's bound to get ugly, zach by all acounts is a piece of ****, you don't rape women because you were young. I have heard that smith has a similiar entourage to randolfs.

Eddy dumb player, jamal dumb player, marbury dumb player, nate dumb player, smith dumb player, this is not generalizing. You need a few heads out there from time to time.

I love smith and would have moved jamal and frye for him along with nate but I have a hard time moving lee and balkman. Love his shotblocking abilities but smith is a run and gun player we have the slowest frontcourt going right now and a pgs that aren't in control enough to play uptemp ball.