Posted by Bonn1997:

Are you smoking something thinking 7 extra rebounds is going to win us a lot more games.

Are you smoking something thinking it *won't* win us a lot more games?

Posted by Bonn1997:

I never called anyone stupid. I do NOT do name calling. We also had a center who led the league in pts in the paint last year and still had an awful team. Does that mean low-post scoring is irrelevant to winning or does it mean you can't attribute a team's record to any one stat alone? Any defensive problems are irrelevant to whether Lee or Curry should start because they're both equally bad at man to man and help defense. Lee at least makes up for it with steals, hustle, and defensive rebounding. I know you think Curry is a franchise player and I think he's just a scoring specialist. It shouldn't be too surprising that we have very different views on how he should be used, should it?

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Are you smoking something thinking 7 extra rebounds is going to win us a lot more games.

Are you smoking something thinking it *won't* win us a lot more games?

Last years stats are proof that you are out of your mind. Someone makes a good point and you come back without any evidence and call them stupid. Rebounds don't win games. Look at the links I posted that prove New York does not need rebounding help. They need defense which Lee does not help us much with. I think you have gone so far over in your Curry bashing that you have lost touch with reality.

I think you have reached a new level in posting so much but not saying anything. Did you know New York was the 4th best rebounding team in the league last year? We were better than Utah, San Antonio, Detroit, New Jersey, Dallas etc. In fact, the only teams better than us were the Bulls, the Cavs and the Nuggets. Put that in your crack pipe.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/stats/2006/teams/team_rebounding/0_byTOT_RBND_PER_GAME.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=teamstatreb&season=2007&seasontype=2

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 07-11-2007 08:09 AM]

Posted by Cash:

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Are you smoking something thinking 7 extra rebounds is going to win us a lot more games.

Are you smoking something thinking it *won't* win us a lot more games?

Last years stats are proof that you are out of your mind. Someone makes a good point and you come back without any evidence and call them stupid. Rebounds don't win games. Look at the links I posted that prove New York does not need rebounding help. They need defense which Lee does not help us much with. I think you have gone so far over in your Curry bashing that you have lost touch with reality.

I think you have reached a new level in posting so much but not saying anything. Did you know New York was the 4th best rebounding team in the league last year? We were better than Utah, San Antonio, Detroit, New Jersey, Dallas etc. In fact, the only teams better than us were the Bulls, the Cavs and the Nuggets. Put that in your crack pipe.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/stats/2006/teams/team_rebounding/0_byTOT_RBND_PER_GAME.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=teamstatreb&season=2007&seasontype=2

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 07-11-2007 08:09 AM]

I have a lot of problems with this post regarding rebounding. Team Rebounding is a stat that can be influenced by a number of factors.

For example:
Suppose we had a team with some pretty poor jumpshooters.
Suppose we had a team with some pretty poor shotblockers.
Suppose we had a team that turns the ball over as much as anyone in the league.
Suppose we had a team that played weak defense and rarely put the other team on the line because they would rather save their fouls for offense.
Suppose we had a team that didn't get to the line often on offense.

Wouldn't these factors give us a team with a lot of rebounds without even talking about the quality of rebounding. Eddy Curry is a very poor rebounder. If you don't think that hurts the team, I don't know what to tell you.

I thought the original post was fair. When you already have a post player that has a somewhat complete game who is going to demand the ball on offense, why wouldn't you just surround him with a very good all-around player that is good without the ball instead of a guy who is only effective when he has the ball and only when he isn't being double teamed?

Posted by nixluva:

Our problems will come on the defensive end. To start games, teams that have quick lineups will be a challenge. This is why it's important for Curry and Zach to come in, in great shape. They're gonna be weak links if they're not ready. We'll be alright with our bench players who are quicker and more athletic, but it's gonna be interesting to see how the team plays D when the starting unit is on the floor. It looks like we'll continue to have a defensive unit come in off the bench to change the pace.

Defense and matchups may be a reason why Jared may start next year. When we play teams like Toronto, we're gonna need someone who can matchup with Bosh. I doubt he's gonna want to see Zach try to stay with Bosh. Q would be too small. So he may go with this lineup. Steph, Q, Jared, Zach & Curry. Then bring Jamal, Mardy, Lee, Balkman off the bench.

Even with a period of adjustment i think this team will still manage to win games. We just have too much depth and strength for teams in the East. When exactly is the let down gonna come for teams against us. Before you could count on the time when Steph, Q & Curry sat down. Now there really won't be a down time IMO. We'll keep Zach in there and bring in Lee and Balkman. Mardy will be able to come in and give us more size and defense. This team is gonna be better than a lot of you realize. I think to many of us and the Media are stuck with memories of this team from last year and they aren't recognizing the growth that will take place with another year together and an improved roster as well.

Even our bench is more equipped with guys that can fill needs. Nate, Nichols, Chandler, Morris, James & Malik or Jones & Dickau, depending on who Isiah keeps. This team is gonna win more than 42 games IMO.

Another promised Nix translation:

1. We have huge problem with defense
2. Our starters defense suck
3. We will get into huge hole at the start of the game
4. Backup unit will come up to close the gap (is it a news?)
5. Eddy and Zack are weak links of this team
6. They can come out of shape at the beginning of the season
7. Jarred might start... again...
8. We will straggle against young athletic teams like Toronto
9. Bosh will destroy us. We have nobody to defend him
10. We will have long adjustment period
11. But we do win some games (not many zo)
12. Steph, Q, and Eddy will not manage to play all season and will eventually set down
13. Team was bad last season and as it cannot get worth it should get better
14. We will start beating East team when they break down and start tanking
15. We have long line of bench player to play 2 min each

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Zach & Curry co-exist reasonably well. They avg. 36 pts & 17 boards between them.

I bet if you start Lee and Zach you'll get close to the 36 pts but also get 23 rbs. I realize Isiah would never do it because he has to justify all the lottery picks he gave up for Eddy, though.

Why do you jump in every thread and turn it into a bash Eddy Thread? I kid you not, all of your posts need to be stickied and lumped together because they all sound the same.

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Zach & Curry co-exist reasonably well. They avg. 36 pts & 17 boards between them.

I bet if you start Lee and Zach you'll get close to the 36 pts but also get 23 rbs. I realize Isiah would never do it because he has to justify all the lottery picks he gave up for Eddy, though.

Why do you jump in every thread and turn it into a bash Eddy Thread? I kid you not, all of your posts need to be stickied and lumped together because they all sound the same.

Some people without naming names are obsessed and jealous of Curry because Curry is everything he wishs he was.

Taller than 5 foot 3 inchs
Strong. Bigger than 115 pounds.
Able to satisfy his girlfriend without needing to take pills to do it.
Liked by other people. No social issues forcing him to take more pills.

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Zach & Curry co-exist reasonably well. They avg. 36 pts & 17 boards between them.

I bet if you start Lee and Zach you'll get close to the 36 pts but also get 23 rbs. I realize Isiah would never do it because he has to justify all the lottery picks he gave up for Eddy, though.

Why do you jump in every thread and turn it into a bash Eddy Thread? I kid you not, all of your posts need to be stickied and lumped together because they all sound the same.

Some people without naming names are obsessed and jealous of Curry because Curry is everything he wishs he was.

Taller than 5 foot 3 inchs
Strong. Bigger than 115 pounds.
Able to satisfy his girlfriend without needing to take pills to do it.
Liked by other people. No social issues forcing him to take more pills.

This is COSSUCKS own personal cry for help. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than this.

Aside from the imaginary girlfriend that is.

Just spoke the truth. I realize you and your type hate that.

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Zach & Curry co-exist reasonably well. They avg. 36 pts & 17 boards between them.

I bet if you start Lee and Zach you'll get close to the 36 pts but also get 23 rbs. I realize Isiah would never do it because he has to justify all the lottery picks he gave up for Eddy, though.

Why do you jump in every thread and turn it into a bash Eddy Thread? I kid you not, all of your posts need to be stickied and lumped together because they all sound the same.

Some people without naming names are obsessed and jealous of Curry because Curry is everything he wishs he was.

Taller than 5 foot 3 inchs
Strong. Bigger than 115 pounds.
Able to satisfy his girlfriend without needing to take pills to do it.
Liked by other people. No social issues forcing him to take more pills.

This is COSSUCKS own personal cry for help. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than this.

Aside from the imaginary girlfriend that is.

Just spoke the truth. I realize you and your type hate that.

I know it's the truth, you poor poor thing.

I hope you get the help you're desperately looking for.

The person in question knows exactly who he is. I'm sorry to say it isnt you. You would have thought an Islander fan would feel that inadequate. Maybe thats why you relate.

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by COSSUCKS:

Posted by bigbeast:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Zach & Curry co-exist reasonably well. They avg. 36 pts & 17 boards between them.

I bet if you start Lee and Zach you'll get close to the 36 pts but also get 23 rbs. I realize Isiah would never do it because he has to justify all the lottery picks he gave up for Eddy, though.

Why do you jump in every thread and turn it into a bash Eddy Thread? I kid you not, all of your posts need to be stickied and lumped together because they all sound the same.

Some people without naming names are obsessed and jealous of Curry because Curry is everything he wishs he was.

Taller than 5 foot 3 inchs
Strong. Bigger than 115 pounds.
Able to satisfy his girlfriend without needing to take pills to do it.
Liked by other people. No social issues forcing him to take more pills.

This is COSSUCKS own personal cry for help. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than this.

Aside from the imaginary girlfriend that is.

Just spoke the truth. I realize you and your type hate that.

I know it's the truth, you poor poor thing.

I hope you get the help you're desperately looking for.

The person in question knows exactly who he is. I'm sorry to say it isnt you. You would have thought an Islander fan would feel that inadequate. Maybe thats why you relate.

COSSUCKS how you know about Eddy sexual powers?
Are you a girl?

He has several kids so unlike the poster in question he must be able to perform

Making kids is not a big thing. Blocking shoots and rebounding is much more difficult.
But I would not comment on his skills outside bbal. This is his personal business.