Posted by djsunyc:

i agree. 33 wins are the same as 49, 57, and 60 wins. or winning 47 after only 20 something the year before.

in fact, winning a championship...what does that really mean anyway? it's just a trophy anybody can buy in the store, so in essence, since we can buy more trophies than anybody else in the league, well i guess that makes us the best.

we are the best.

Posted by kam77:

CHI will be regretting how they spent the spoils of the Curry trade in a year or two. Pheonix hasn't won with their boy Nash yet. Orlando has now maxed themselves out of the FA game and didn't improve appreciably. Portland.. who cares. They're out west.

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by babyKnicks:

I'd like to see a post after a team wins that the knicks have traded with under isiah.

Nazr to San Antonio

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Posted by Andrew:

Man...we helped the Suns free up $$ for Nash.

We helped Chicago free up $$ to get Wallace.

We helped Orlando free up $$ to get Lewis.

We helped Portland free up $$ in a couple of years.

We are really helping other teams sign above mid level players.

I could really care less about other teams. It is not like we helped them win a championship

Posted by Ira:

Posted by kam77:

CHI will be regretting how they spent the spoils of the Curry trade in a year or two. Pheonix hasn't won with their boy Nash yet. Orlando has now maxed themselves out of the FA game and didn't improve appreciably. Portland.. who cares. They're out west.

That's a fact. Ben Wallace's contract is much worse than Randolph's - especially when you consider the age of the players.

He has 3yrs left and his contract depreciates. Chicago could probably unload him next yr as long as he continues to perform like he has the past 2yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-04-2007 8:45 PM]

Posted by Andrew:

I think we should stop being the dumping ground for unwanted salary.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by Andrew:

I think we should stop being the dumping ground for unwanted salary.

We have to acquire players through trades and that means taking back bad contracts to get a decent player. There is no rebuilding in NY because a) Dolan and b)it is sure to leave a large number of fans unhappy. Everyone has their own draft pick so you cannot make the fans happy unless you get a Greg Oden or Lebron. People on this forum weren't patient with our youth movement which had players with some decent upside. Some had a problem with Frye and others had a problem with Lee.

Its very hard to trade for a franchise player because franchise players don't get traded. How do we build a team? The a chance on players and thats what Isiah is doing. Hindsight is 20/20 so lets see if anyone can give a good way to rebuild and actually make it reasonable.

Posted by djsunyc:


how about just winning and advancing in playoffs? we didn't win a title with ewing's teams but that's all we can ask for as a fan base, right? just to win and advance and hope to get lucky.

so isiah's taking risks...the question is why? why is EVERY acquisition a risk? why not a combination of risks and some solid non-risks? he's like the preston wilson of nba gm's - sexy player, bats .240, will get you 25-30 homers b/c he swings for the fences every at bat, but strikeouts 200 times a year. ultimately, he doesn't help your team win and ends up being a journeyman.

the best player isiah acquired was marbury. the most non-risk acquistion of the bunch (although he too had alot of questions around him). every player since then have been MAJOR risks. anybody can appreciate the gunslinging style but it just leaves knicks fans scratching their head asking "why hasn't it worked yet?"