Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by McK1:

wonder if Darko becomes a Bull

darko can go to chicago, nj, or maybe even san antonio...

NJ or Chi add him they have to be the favorites coming out of the East

Milicic is already a force defensively.playing with guards like Kidd and Vince or Gordon and Kirk should help him develop into just enough of a threat offensively to propel either of those teams.

bulls should renounce nocioni and sign darko outright.

s&t for darko are now out of the picture. only teams can sign him outright.

What about Charlotte? Pair him as power forward next to Okafor and their front court is set. They have significant cap room.

Actually if the Bulls just trade Duhon they wouldn't have to renounce Noch. They'd have enough cap space to give him a starting salary around $7.5-9mil and still re-sign Noc, since they already renounced Sweetney.

you're right - forgot they renounced sweets. duhon can get dumped to atlanta for a future pick.

charlotte has to re-sign gwallace first + jrich puts them near the cap = they may not have enough.

darko should be signed for 3 years $24 mil with a team option for the 4th.

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

LOL Their cap situation is lovely. They appear to be under the cap by a couple mil even with the addition of Lewis considering the figure should rise just a tad this off-season. They'll extend Howard, Jameer and probably give Ariza new deals that take affect next yr and still be under the cap.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by McK1:

wonder if Darko becomes a Bull

darko can go to chicago, nj, or maybe even san antonio...

NJ or Chi add him they have to be the favorites coming out of the East

Milicic is already a force defensively.playing with guards like Kidd and Vince or Gordon and Kirk should help him develop into just enough of a threat offensively to propel either of those teams.

bulls should renounce nocioni and sign darko outright.

s&t for darko are now out of the picture. only teams can sign him outright.

What about Charlotte? Pair him as power forward next to Okafor and their front court is set. They have significant cap room.

Actually if the Bulls just trade Duhon they wouldn't have to renounce Noch. They'd have enough cap space to give him a starting salary around $7.5-9mil and still re-sign Noc, since they already renounced Sweetney.

you're right - forgot they renounced sweets. duhon can get dumped to atlanta for a future pick.

charlotte has to re-sign gwallace first + jrich puts them near the cap = they may not have enough.

darko should be signed for 3 years $24 mil with a team option for the 4th.

Charlotte still has cap space even with the recent acquisition of Rich factoring Wallace's and Carroll's cap holds. They currently sit at $34mil in committed salary. It sure is nice having cap space.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-02-2007 11:25 PM]

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

LOL Their cap situation is lovely. They appear to be under the cap by a couple mil even with the addition of Lewis considering the figure should rise just a tad this off-season. They'll extend Howard, Jameer and probably give Ariza new deals that take affect next yr and still be under the cap.

adding lewis to that team really does not make them that much better, they still need to add talent and a bench, do you even watch the magic play? my son is a big magic fan, we follow them also, they need more players, especially a bench, when they have to add more players that contract lewis will have will be a albatross... he is grossly overpaid now if this happens.. laugh all you want, but their "lovely" cap will be needing a facelift soon...

As long as they have the MLE available the following yrs, they'll be fine. They have a couple players on small deals that are expiring contracts in which they can turn into another body or two to shore up a bench. They have a perfect setup. Yes they over reached for Lewis and any team that would have signed him would.

Jameer
Howard
Ariza
Lewis
Arroyo
Turkey Glue
Redick
Dooling
Battie


Assets expiring contracts Dooling, Arroyo, Bogans in 2yrs, and Garrity,

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

thank god, let him destroy the magics cap, I wanted nothing to do with that guy and his salary demands....

LOL Their cap situation is lovely. They appear to be under the cap by a couple mil even with the addition of Lewis considering the figure should rise just a tad this off-season. They'll extend Howard, Jameer and probably give Ariza new deals that take affect next yr and still be under the cap.

adding lewis to that team really does not make them that much better, they still need to add talent and a bench, do you even watch the magic play? my son is a big magic fan, we follow them also, they need more players, especially a bench, when they have to add more players that contract lewis will have will be a albatross... he is grossly overpaid now if this happens.. laugh all you want, but their "lovely" cap will be needing a facelift soon...

As long as they have the MLE available the following yrs, they'll be fine. They have a couple players on small deals that are expiring contracts in which they can turn into another body or two to shore up a bench. They have a perfect setup. Yes they over reached for Lewis and any team that would have signed him would.

Jameer
Howard
Ariza
Lewis
Arroyo
Turkey Glue
Redick
Dooling
Battie


Assets expiring contracts Dooling, Arroyo, Bogans in 2yrs, and Garrity,

overpaying for lewis is 5 years 60 mil. But 5 years 75 mil is an absolute Joke... 15 mil a year for LEwis? got damn!!!

Well he signed a 6yr/$60mil contract 5yrs ago and improved his game in the league, obviously he stood a chance to make some serious coin. He's in his prime. Would I have paid him that much probably not but I understand why Orlando did. We also need to get out of the mindset that some deals are just horrific beyond belief, this isn't the CBA of 5yrs ago when you had regular 6yr and 7yr deals maxed out players. It's a 5yr deal in which he will contribute to a team that will be highly competitive and present in the post-season for the next 5yrs.

The Magic are definitely better than we are

No sign and trade? 15 mil a year for 5 years is an awful deal. Way too much.

[Edited by - vdesai on 07-03-2007 08:42 AM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by VDesai:

No sign and trade? 15 mil a year for 6 years is an awful deal. Way too much.

Any very good player gets at least double the MLE nowadays.

A) 15 mil a year is more than double the MLE, more like the Max
B) How does that not make it an awful deal?

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by VDesai:

No sign and trade? 15 mil a year for 6 years is an awful deal. Way too much.

Any very good player gets at least double the MLE nowadays.

A) 15 mil a year is more than double the MLE, more like the Max
B) How does that not make it an awful deal?

I was thinking $75 mil is double or really 2.5 times the $30 mil MLE (but the MLE does go an extra year). It's not an awful deal because he's going to help them win a lot of games and they already have a great core with a franchise player. They can afford to overspend on a player who compliments they're core perfectly. Sometimes it's about the fit more than the player.

Lewis got a market value deal. A team with cap room can afford to overpay as they have nothing to give up to get him. He came free.

Sounds like sour grapes around here. If Isiah could have, he would have gotten him here for similar money.

Isiahs 25 minutes with Tony Dutt cemented his decision.

ORlando really needed this guy and he compliments HOward very well. Is he worth 15mil a year? I don't think so, but I don't think Marbury is worth 20mil either.

That makes them better than us at the moment to be honest have to see how he fits in, but the perfect spot for him, if Billy Knight had any sense he would offer darko 7 million for 5, and then move childress and marvin williams for someone good.