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7/1/2007  8:45 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Jesus, what is with Knick fans trying to give Isiah the benefit the doubt here?


The trade was no more than this:

Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, 2 2nd Rounders

for

Antonio Davis, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler


If you're gonna count Balkman (like he even matters), then you have to account for the cap space Chi got re: Ben Wallace, or the trade the Bulls made ala Aldridge for Tyrus and the pick that became that Khyrpya guy.


Aka STFU Newday or BabyKnicks or whoever.


The trade sucked.......OBVIOUSLY.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-01-2007 8:42 PM]

The Bulls gained like 2 mill in cap space in that deal. Wallace signed for 16 mill last year.
You are right about Kryhpha. He should be included but Selafosha should not since he was gained with the Bulls own first round pick.

[Edited by - COSSUCKS on 07-01-2007 8:46 PM]
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7/1/2007  8:45 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Jesus, what is with Knick fans trying to give Isiah the benefit the doubt here?


The trade was no more than this:

Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, 2 2nd Rounders

for

Antonio Davis, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler


If you're gonna count Balkman (like he even matters), then you have to account for the cap space Chi got re: Ben Wallace, or the trade the Bulls made ala Aldridge for Tyrus and the pick that became that Khyrpya guy.


Aka STFU Newday or BabyKnicks or whoever.


The trade sucked.......OBVIOUSLY.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-01-2007 8:42 PM]



LOL! or count the additional salary and buyout travesty that transpired
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7/1/2007  8:46 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by bobs3304:

Jesus, what is with Knick fans trying to give Isiah the benefit the doubt here?


The trade was no more than this:

Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, 2 2nd Rounders

for

Antonio Davis, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler


If you're gonna count Balkman (like he even matters), then you have to account for the cap space Chi got re: Ben Wallace, or the trade the Bulls made ala Aldridge for Tyrus and the pick that became that Khyrpya guy.


Aka STFU Newday or BabyKnicks or whoever.


The trade sucked.......OBVIOUSLY.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-01-2007 8:42 PM]

The Bulls gained like 2 mill in cap space in that deal. Wallace signed for 16 mill last year

Actually it was more like $3.5mil and Ben's deal was frontloaded.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-01-2007 7:47 PM]
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7/1/2007  8:50 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Jesus, what is with Knick fans trying to give Isiah the benefit the doubt here?


The trade was no more than this:

Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas, 2 2nd Rounders

for

Antonio Davis, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler


If you're gonna count Balkman (like he even matters), then you have to account for the cap space Chi got re: Ben Wallace, or the trade the Bulls made ala Aldridge for Tyrus and the pick that became that Khyrpya guy.


Aka STFU Newday or BabyKnicks or whoever.


The trade sucked.......OBVIOUSLY.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-01-2007 8:42 PM]

In terms of what Curry is going to mean to this team over the next 8 years, I think it was a trade well worth the cost. Tyrus and Noah are good high energy players, but i'd still take Curry. It's gonna be very interesting to watch over the years and see how this all works out.
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7/1/2007  8:51 PM
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Balkman wasn't part of the Curry trade and you know it.

LOL Balkman who came for AD wasnt part of it but Sefolosha was?
Give me a break the Bulls traded their own 2006 first round pick #16 (Rodney Carney) for Sefolosha

It was Balkman for an expiring contract. The Knicks could have used another expiring contract to make that trade. They just happened to use AD's, who happened to be a part of the Curry trade. Stop trying to make the trade look better by adding players to it who weren't involved.

thanks isles.
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7/1/2007  8:58 PM
IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.
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7/1/2007  9:01 PM
Posted by TheGame:

IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!
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7/1/2007  9:03 PM
I think the Bulls made a mistake with Noah but it was still two lottery picks for Curry. Quality guys would have been available at the ninth spot.
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7/1/2007  9:06 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TheGame:

IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. These players still need to develop but I think at this point, we won that trade.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-01-2007 9:07 PM]
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7/1/2007  9:07 PM
The Curry trade was the most brilliant move in the history of the NBA.
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7/1/2007  9:08 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

The Curry trade was the most brilliant move in the history of the NBA.

actually, the sam bowie pick was number one. but this was close.
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7/1/2007  9:08 PM
Posted by TheGame:
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IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. We won that trade.

That wasn't the trade period sorry no other way to break it to you. Stay in your warped universe.
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7/1/2007  9:10 PM
the trade was curry for ben wallace
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7/1/2007  9:12 PM
Posted by TheGame:
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IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. These players still need to develop but I think at this point, we won that trade.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-01-2007 9:07 PM]

Exactly since those are the only significant remnants of the trade really only either team.

Sweets, Krypha, Tim Thomas, Jermaine Jackson are all gone for nothing.

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7/1/2007  9:16 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TheGame:

IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. These players still need to develop but I think at this point, we won that trade.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-01-2007 9:07 PM]

Exactly since those are the only significant remnants of the trade really only either team.

Sweets, Krypha, Tim Thomas, Jermaine Jackson are all gone for nothing.


Ok where's Ben Wallace in that scenario? Why are we being stupid and facetious on this?
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7/1/2007  9:18 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TheGame:

IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. We won that trade.

That wasn't the trade period sorry no other way to break it to you. Stay in your warped universe.

Dude, whatever you think the trade was or wasn't, the simple fact of the matter is that we did not get raped on the deal. We got Curry, who is still better than anyone Chicago obtained, and we added potential talent in Chandler with the Bulls pick. Maybe in 5 years, Noah and Thomas blowup and the perception of the deal changes, but I doubt that because those guys are just not dominating offensive players. We really cannot truly evaluate the deal for another 2-3 years as we see what we have in Chandler and whether Curry can improve on his passing and defense, but I see no evidence to suggest that Chicago won the trade (and don't talk about they made the playoffs because they made the playoffs when Curry was still there and the cap space we gave them would not have helped us because we were still going to be over the cap).
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7/1/2007  9:18 PM
it was tim thomas for ben wallace.
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7/1/2007  9:22 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TheGame:

IMO the trade was Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. I would say that we at worst broke even. It is still too early to tell, but Chandler has as much potential as Thomas and Noah and Curry is already one of the best low post scorers in the league. If Chandler develops his jumpshot, ballhandling, intensity, and defense, he could be our SF of the future. He averaged 14.6 points on a low scoring, slow it down Depaul team as a sophmore, so the kid has potential.

There is no IMO what the trade was. The trade was what it was Geeeezzzz!

Well, the trade ended up being Curry and Chandler for Thomas and Noah. These players still need to develop but I think at this point, we won that trade.

[Edited by - thegame on 07-01-2007 9:07 PM]

Exactly since those are the only significant remnants of the trade really only either team.

Sweets, Krypha, Tim Thomas, Jermaine Jackson are all gone for nothing.


Ok where's Ben Wallace in that scenario? Why are we being stupid and facetious on this?

You should ansswer your own question.
The Bulls gained around 2mill in cap space in the Curry deal not 16 mill in cap room that it took to sign Ben Wallace but heck add that over paid 32 year old with a ridiculous contract on to the trade.Its a ridiculous leap but it makes it look better for us since nobody else in their right mind would want him with that contract. Cool Isiah dumped Ben Wallaces overpaid butt on the Bulls. Thats funny. I'm so glad they have to pay him 15 mill a year till he is 36 years old. Good job Isiah!
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7/1/2007  9:24 PM
hey, ben wallace makes more than Zack. and he's one dimensional and can't hit free throws.

That crafty bull management team.

When curry/crawford turn into kobe...we'll be kissing dolan's **********
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Posted by babyKnicks:

it was tim thomas for ben wallace.

It was Tim Thomas for AD actually but yeah lets pretend that Isiah dumped 15 mill a year till age 36 declining for 5 years Ben Wallace on the Bulls! That makes the trade look even better for us! Awesome that Isiah was able todump that crappy Ben Wallace contract on the Bulls! See this pretend world shows how smart Isiah is.
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