Posted by Solace:

Posted by TrueBlue:

He's the Phuckin Truth. If I had to rank posters that I've come to respect and judge their body of work over the yrs of msg board posting I'd go

Kos
BlueSeats
Powerforward99
Isles
dj

You left someone very important off the list.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Solace:

Posted by TrueBlue:

He's the Phuckin Truth. If I had to rank posters that I've come to respect and judge their body of work over the yrs of msg board posting I'd go

Kos
BlueSeats
Powerforward99
Isles
dj

You left someone very important off the list.

Solace you are definitely in the fold along with MS and Bonn but you don't write enough essays. I've seen College Graduate essays from the aforementioned and it was a teaching lesson for all exposed to them. There's only a remnant who bring this board's and the other IQ up.

Posted by nixluva:

I'm not trying hard, i'm speaking my mind clearly and with sound reasoning. This is far from over my head.

The success of Zach playing here is only in question by those who think he's a poor fit for this team. I'm not one of those people. If he does what he's capable of doing I don't see there being a problem. If you've ever watched him play, then you know that he's got a well rounded game offensively and will be able to play with a Center like Curry. They aren't the same player as some keep wanting to say. Those same naysayers complained that Frye was out to far from the basket and didn't get in there and scrap for rebounds, well Zach has plenty of know how and desire to do those things. He'll take his midrange jumpers and get in there and rebound. I really don't see what the problem is. The only thing he doesn't do is block shots.

Posted by Erniecat:


Answer: Isiah probably does understand -- but he is just doing his job, which is to fill the seats, and keep people talking about the Knicks.

I think that those of us who are disenchanted have to let up on Zeke a bit and realize that Dolan is the real target here.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by Erniecat:


Answer: Isiah probably does understand -- but he is just doing his job, which is to fill the seats, and keep people talking about the Knicks.

I think that those of us who are disenchanted have to let up on Zeke a bit and realize that Dolan is the real target here.

I agree with your concern but only to a point. This isn't only about how high our payroll is but also about the type of players Isiah gets and his impulsive and impetuous managerial style. Just look at how many coaches he's gone through, let alone roster turnover. And still not a natural or established leader to be found in the clubhouse.

I sometimes wonder if you blindfolded a monkey and let him throw darts at a list of available players if they'd do any worse than Isiah.

And I disregard the draft in that statement, but their admission that they weren't familiar enough with Marcus Williams at last years draft seems as negligent as not protecting our draft picks in the Curry trade. Just too many holes in the game plan.

In the end, when Isiah got here he didn't have a lot of talent on the roster, but he did have a slew of expiring contracts, all future first round draft picks, and a wide open wallet from the owner to work with. I think there a more GMs in the league that could have done better with that than worse relative to Isiah.

The one area isiah excels above all others, however, is if he can't deliver an exciting team he's always got high intrigue and drama that seems just as compelling.

Asked if the Knicks are a repository for overpaid guys no longer worth the money, Dolan said, "I'd have to agree with you on that characterization."

Posted by Bonn1997:

Asked if the Knicks are a repository for overpaid guys no longer worth the money, Dolan said, "I'd have to agree with you on that characterization."

Is that a joke or did he really say that???

Posted by Erniecat:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by Erniecat:


Answer: Isiah probably does understand -- but he is just doing his job, which is to fill the seats, and keep people talking about the Knicks.

I think that those of us who are disenchanted have to let up on Zeke a bit and realize that Dolan is the real target here.

I agree with your concern but only to a point. This isn't only about how high our payroll is but also about the type of players Isiah gets and his impulsive and impetuous managerial style. Just look at how many coaches he's gone through, let alone roster turnover. And still not a natural or established leader to be found in the clubhouse.

I sometimes wonder if you blindfolded a monkey and let him throw darts at a list of available players if they'd do any worse than Isiah.

And I disregard the draft in that statement, but their admission that they weren't familiar enough with Marcus Williams at last years draft seems as negligent as not protecting our draft picks in the Curry trade. Just too many holes in the game plan.

In the end, when Isiah got here he didn't have a lot of talent on the roster, but he did have a slew of expiring contracts, all future first round draft picks, and a wide open wallet from the owner to work with. I think there a more GMs in the league that could have done better with that than worse relative to Isiah.

The one area isiah excels above all others, however, is if he can't deliver an exciting team he's always got high intrigue and drama that seems just as compelling.

True. But let me ask you this:

Which of the following scenarios would you select, if given the choice:

1. Dolan fires Isiah but remains owner.

2. Dolan sells the team, and Isiah remains GM.


I would go for No. 2 in a heartbeat, and I'm pretty sure just about everyone else on this board would as well.

I think under new ownership, Isiah would be held far more accountable for his actions.

That's really what it boils down to now: With Dolan in charge, Isiah simply gets mulligan after mulligan, and is not held accountable for his failures, so he just keeps making these moves, hoping something will finally stick.

Posted by BRIGGS:

I take a different side of this. The *money* part is so over-rated by fans in terms of necessity to get under the cap. It is *absolutely* NOT necessary to have a goal to get under the cap. Big names move *easier* with trades in most cases.

There is no doubt in my mind that we were going in the right direction up until two days ago. What happened?

We DID NOT address our main flaws or even try to
We took on a player who has very questionable Character[owed 60mm] who averaged 19 shots a game last year and is a primary post option. We needed to focus on getting Eddy MORE shots and now were going to be in-fighting from day 1. Way to much ego. The goal shouldve been stay on course with where we were going. Am I going overboard with the addition of one player? No--one player can kill you--wreck balance and chemistry. I guess other NBA teams were not so high on Zach if it cost us Steve Francis and Frye for him[hint hint]

We had athletic guys who could do the job around Curry. We just needed to tweak things and instead we pulled it out of the wall.

But as I say this--I can only be hopeful that things work out for the best. I don't want the Knicks to fail to prove myself right--regime change etc...but I think this guy is just not going to get this thing right.