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djsunyc
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6/24/2007  5:54 PM
nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.
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6/24/2007  6:00 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.

Thats because he plays with Tim Duncan. Duncan would be mvp of all 4 teams. Thats not a reflection on Parker. Ai shouldnt even be in this discussion.
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6/24/2007  6:04 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.

You take Tony Parker off the Spurs and the Cavs win that series
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6/24/2007  6:11 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by djsunyc:

nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.

You take Tony Parker off the Spurs and the Cavs win that series

you take duncan off the spurs and they don't even win 35 games.

nash went to WCF's without amare.
kidd went to the finals twice with no other perennial allstar.
ai went to the finals with a starting 4 of deke, hill, jumaine jones, and mckie.

you swap out parker with any of the 3 above and the spurs may have won 2 more titles.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-24-2007 6:12 PM]
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6/24/2007  7:07 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by djsunyc:

nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.

You take Tony Parker off the Spurs and the Cavs win that series

you take duncan off the spurs and they don't even win 35 games.

nash went to WCF's without amare.
kidd went to the finals twice with no other perennial allstar.
ai went to the finals with a starting 4 of deke, hill, jumaine jones, and mckie.

you swap out parker with any of the 3 above and the spurs may have won 2 more titles.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-24-2007 6:12 PM]

Nash still had a superstar in Marion and Diaw was a beast that yr.

Kidd had the healthy Kenyon martin that was ****ting on teams left and right along with some guys named Richard Jefferson, Kerry Kittles and Keith Vanhorn.

Dikembe was an allstar and defensive player of the year. Snow and McKie were lock down defenders. Actually the line-up was Snow, AI, McKie, Geiger, and Mutumbo which was an incredible defensive team.

AI would not work on the Spurs. Kidd doesn't have a jumpshot. Nash would flourish in that system IMO.



[Edited by - cookdcokehop on 24-06-2007 7:08 PM]
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6/24/2007  7:37 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by djsunyc:

nash is the mvp of his team.
kidd is the mvp of his team.
ai is the mvp of his team (in philly).

parker is not the mvp of his team.

You take Tony Parker off the Spurs and the Cavs win that series

you take duncan off the spurs and they don't even win 35 games.

nash went to WCF's without amare.
kidd went to the finals twice with no other perennial allstar.
ai went to the finals with a starting 4 of deke, hill, jumaine jones, and mckie.

you swap out parker with any of the 3 above and the spurs may have won 2 more titles.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-24-2007 6:12 PM]

You are comparing Parker with 3 hall of famers. Doesnt that tell you how good Parker is?
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6/25/2007  1:19 PM
He shot over 50% during his one college season... excellent shot selection & making the shots he's supposed to make? That's part of being a good PG. Let's just say he won't stretch defenses the way a 35% 3pt shooter would.

Anyway, Jason Kidd has a 33% career 3pt %; As a rookie, he shot .385 from the field .272 from 3pt range en route to co-rookie of the year. Shooting's not everything, especially if you're fabulous at everything else and your team let's you average 3.7 to/gm.

Then again, Conley's no Kidd - we're not quite sure what he projects to...
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Posted by technomaster:

At his size, is anyone worried he'll be another Jason/Jay/Jason Williams?

Some highly acclaimed small guards dominate (Iverson, Paul, Nash)... but his less-than-idea height is another question mark on him beyond his lack of history of playing w/o Oden.

More worried about his outside shooting than his height.

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6/25/2007  8:35 PM
http://www.ajc.com/hawks/content/sports/hawks/stories/2007/06/25/0626hawksdraft.html

Woodson called Conley the "most natural point guard" of the three. Knight praised Conley after Monday's workout, while downplaying concerns about Conley's size (6-1, 175).



"He's a good player and fine young man. We like him," Knight said. "Mike's a great athlete, a great athlete. Obviously with his family [Mike Conley Sr. won an Olympic gold medal in the triple jump], having that athleticism and background ... he's also got a great vertical and great upper body strength. But you realize that because of his athleticism and his length — he's really long in his wingspan — he plays a lot bigger than he is."

Big enough for the Hawks to hand over the keys to the franchise to a 19-year-old floor leader with just one year of college experience instead of trading for a more experienced "insurance policy"?

"We think we'll get a guard in this whole deal," Knight said. "We're very fortunate to be in the position we're in and we feel good about it and we know we're going to get two good players out of this, and whether it's drafting them or however we're going to get them, we feel good about it."

Once, when the younger Conley was 8 years old, the older Conley popped in a video of himself running the 200 meters at Arkansas. “I was the proud father showing my son how fast I used to run, and how I took second place in college against a silver medalist in the Olympic Games,” recalled the older Conley. As the younger Conley watched the video, he burst into tears after the older Conley crossed the finish line. “He was crying like crazy and saying, ‘You lost, Daddy. I can’t believe you lost.’ That tells you how competitive he’s always been. You can’t teach that.”

No, but you can draft that.





[Edited by - playa2 on 25-06-2007 20:52]
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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6/28/2007  7:54 PM
HOW CAN YOU GUYS NOT See the resembelence?
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Mike Conely = Tony Parker

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