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MS
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6/19/2007  9:47 AM
The knicks package is terrible compared to the celtics deal, outside of david lee and balkman who are both solid role players how are they improving.....

Getting the number five pick would allow them to take Brewer/Brandon Wright to go with Jefferson who is already better than eddy curry, and green who has superstar potential, they actually get position players that they don't already have......

Your looking at this lineup for the TWolves

Foye/Telfair
Davis/Brewer/McCants
Green/Hassel
Jefferson
Noah

You take your lumps and grow as a team, that offers a lot more than the knicks could plug in. That would be a terrible deal for boston for as bad as they look right now have go position depth if they hang onto people at every position.

Rondo
Green
Pierce
Jefferson
Gomes
West
Wally
Perkins

They would be better served trading pierce and getting cap room and putting together a title contender for a long time
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6/21/2007  12:23 PM
http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1007567
Source: C’s closer to KG deal
By Steve Bulpett
Boston Herald Sports Reporter

Thursday, June 21, 2007 - Updated: 04:49 AM EST

The process still is far from complete, but a league source indicated last night the Celtics [team stats] were moving closer to a deal for Minnesota star Kevin Garnett.

“There’s a good chance nothing happens,” the source cautioned, “but the talks seem to be ongoing. Neither side seems willing to drop this.”

It was further indicated that if such a deal goes down, it would indeed involve both Al Jefferson [stats] and the Celtics’ No. 5 overall pick in next week’s draft.

Celtics director of basketball operations Danny Ainge admitted earlier this week to the Herald that he had discussed a deal for Garnett with Timberwolves counterpart Kevin McHale. When reached last night, Ainge said he is not commenting on any trade rumors.



Reacting to the Herald story yesterday in Minneapolis, McHale said any trade talk involving Garnett so far has been just that - talk.

“Who knows what’s going to happen?” McHale said after the Wolves worked out college stars Jeff Green and Al Horford in preparation for next week’s draft. “But we’re not out there actively shopping Kevin Garnett around the NBA. I can tell you that much.”

The Celtics are said to still be mulling over the pros and cons of the deal. A plus is the opportunity to take a giant step in an Eastern Conference race that would appear to be fairly wide open next season. On the downside, the Celtics would be trading away a player nine years Garnett’s junior in Jefferson, who is coming off a breakout season just three years out of high school.

It is not yet known what other pieces would be involved in the deal to make it work financially, but one can assume Theo Ratliff [stats]’s expiring contract could be part of the mix.

Garnett can opt out of his contract after next season, meaning the Timberwolves run the risk of losing him without compensation if they don’t trade him before then and he tires of not playing on a competitive team. That has ramped up speculation that he could be on the move.

A key part of the transaction would be the Celts knowing Garnett wants to make the move.

Garnett, who turned 31 on May 19, is an eight-time All-NBA selection and a 10-time All-Star. He averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game for Minnesota last season.

Jefferson, a first-round pick by the C’s in 2004, averaged 16.0 points, 11.0 rebounds and 1.3 assists last season.

In the past, McHale has completely dismissed questions of Garnett’s availability, including after last season when he said emphatically, “We’re not going to trade Kevin Garnett.” Now, McHale is qualifying those remarks.


I kind of get the sense that Mchale would never trade K.G. to anyone but the Celtics because of he and Ainge's history. I'm in agreement Mchale may be using Ainge as a means to still gauge K.G.'s value as a previous article this week brought out. And Mchale also may be helping Ainge boost his youth's trade value across the league. Ainge's youth value somewhat took a hit last yr when A.I. trade talks surfaced. A GM went on record, who I believe was Billy King, stating; "Ainge's value of his young talent is over valued compared to the rest of the GM's in the league". In Minnesota's case why consult K.G. on trades if you're looking to trade him?
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6/21/2007  12:41 PM
That would make the Celtics a lot better short-term but sucks for them long-term. I'd go in the rebuild direction and try to get as much as I could for Pierce. But if they just want to win now, this deal will help them a lot.
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6/21/2007  12:44 PM
Who cares about long term when you can be a serious contender for 3 titles now? There's no guarantee in any direction what the Celtics would be like in 3 years anyway. Look at almost any team in the NBA - you see drastic roster changes every year or two.

Two years ago, how many of the current Knicks were even on the roster?

Planning long term is nice, but...
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6/21/2007  12:56 PM
If KG wants to win why would he come to Boston. I know its not his choice and I am no expert at the NBA contracts. But....
Doesn't KG have an opt-out option after next season. I am assuming that option stays valid if he goes to Boston, unless Boston can get the T-Wolves to get KG to waive that option. Can someone please explain this for me, its a bit fuzzy. If it is the way I think it is, then why come to the Celts if your KG? And if your the Celts and KG still has an opt out, you don't do the trade.

Again, someone correct me if needed
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6/21/2007  1:46 PM
Posted by technomaster:

Who cares about long term when you can be a serious contender for 3 titles now? There's no guarantee in any direction what the Celtics would be like in 3 years anyway. Look at almost any team in the NBA - you see drastic roster changes every year or two.

Two years ago, how many of the current Knicks were even on the roster?

Planning long term is nice, but...
Do you think Pierce and KG is enough to be a serious title contender (meaning having a serious chance to WIN the title)?
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6/21/2007  1:53 PM
Jefferson might become as dominant as Garnett this season. And they would have the chance to add another lockdown guy like brewer, just not a good move
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6/21/2007  2:10 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by technomaster:

Who cares about long term when you can be a serious contender for 3 titles now? There's no guarantee in any direction what the Celtics would be like in 3 years anyway. Look at almost any team in the NBA - you see drastic roster changes every year upor two.

Two years ago, how many of the current Knicks were even on the roster?

Planning long term is nice, but...
Do you think Pierce and KG is enough to be a serious title contender (meaning having a serious chance to WIN the title)?

Yeah, they immediately catapult to the cream of the East and the move allows them to feed off of a weak conference. They would be in position to go the finals and thats all you can ask for. A few balls bounce their way and they could be hoisting up a trophy.

Think Cardinals from last year.

I dont think their prospects are so attractive that they cant go "all in" and take a chance. A response to getting worked in the lottery, but oh well. Long term planning would be just as risky as this move IMO.

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6/21/2007  4:19 PM
If I'm the Wolves, I'd make the deal.
It's unlikely that the addition of Juwan Howard & their draft pick this year pushes them beyond a 7th or 8th seed at best. It's a shame, cuz Garnett's best years are melting away on a team incapable of getting deep into the playoffs.

Jefferson would provide the Wolves with a lot of things Garnett doesn't - a buff, bulky low post presence. He's no Eddy Curry, but he'll man the low block. In a way, he might be better for the young guards than Garnett, who likes to be a playmaker around the perimeter.

Green might not be a good fit with this team - he'll have to cope with a just-entering-his-prime Ricky Davis and two other hungry wings (McCants/Foye). Then again, he might be a better fit than those 2 little combo guards. Of course, there's also Jaric, Hassell, and Hudson. Damn. They need to trade some of those guards for big men for them to compete.


[Edited by - technomaster on 06-21-2007 4:22 PM]
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