Posted by Caseloads:

Thanks Isles.

First of all - Paul Pierce is not Kobe. Paul Pierce would not make the Lakers better than celts currently are, which means, they'd be missing the playoffs in the West and not getting younger.

The Bulls would get a huge steal here, basically Kobe for Gordon.

No way do the Celts do this trade, especially giving up Paul Pierce and not getting the #9 pick. Also, why the hell would they want PJ Brown. They should demand ben wallace if they are giving up paul pierce. Let the Bulls keep PJ Brown.

And why would the wiz give up Arenas for Gordon, who they are going to have to pay up anyway once his rook deal is over?

Why would the Celts or Wiz want to help CHICAGO get Kobe? Makes ZERO sense to me.

Anyone who post what Chad Fraud says should really re-evaluate their standards of posting. What he says means nothing to me just like Curry's scoring.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Caseloads:

Thanks Isles.

First of all - Paul Pierce is not Kobe. Paul Pierce would not make the Lakers better than celts currently are, which means, they'd be missing the playoffs in the West and not getting younger.

The Bulls would get a huge steal here, basically Kobe for Gordon.

No way do the Celts do this trade, especially giving up Paul Pierce and not getting the #9 pick. Also, why the hell would they want PJ Brown. They should demand ben wallace if they are giving up paul pierce. Let the Bulls keep PJ Brown.

And why would the wiz give up Arenas for Gordon, who they are going to have to pay up anyway once his rook deal is over?

Why would the Celts or Wiz want to help CHICAGO get Kobe? Makes ZERO sense to me.

Anyone who post what Chad Fraud says should really re-evaluate their standards of posting. What he says means nothing to me just like Curry's scoring.

Geez, I was just doing Case a favor.

No reason to hurt my feelings like that.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Caseloads:

Thanks Isles.

First of all - Paul Pierce is not Kobe. Paul Pierce would not make the Lakers better than celts currently are, which means, they'd be missing the playoffs in the West and not getting younger.

The Bulls would get a huge steal here, basically Kobe for Gordon.

No way do the Celts do this trade, especially giving up Paul Pierce and not getting the #9 pick. Also, why the hell would they want PJ Brown. They should demand ben wallace if they are giving up paul pierce. Let the Bulls keep PJ Brown.

And why would the wiz give up Arenas for Gordon, who they are going to have to pay up anyway once his rook deal is over?

Why would the Celts or Wiz want to help CHICAGO get Kobe? Makes ZERO sense to me.

Anyone who post what Chad Fraud says should really re-evaluate their standards of posting. What he says means nothing to me just like Curry's scoring.

Geez, I was just doing Case a favor.

No reason to hurt my feelings like that.

I wasn't trying to personally attack you but seriously when has any of Fraud and Sam Smith's ideas come to fruition? I'm tired of them

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Bobby:

what we do know, whatever chad mentions will likely not happen. and since he does not mention the knicks only means new york has a better chance.

kobe is new york ready. kobe belongs in new york, its only a matter of time and number crunching

Too bad what Ric Bucher says does have a ton of credibility, he was the first to break the Kobe wants out story and he mentions the Knicks don't have assets the Lakers want and the truth of the matter is he's right.

Think about it would you want to give up a Superstar for any of our 80% trash roster?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-17-2007 12:26 AM]

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Bobby:

what we do know, whatever chad mentions will likely not happen. and since he does not mention the knicks only means new york has a better chance.

kobe is new york ready. kobe belongs in new york, its only a matter of time and number crunching

Too bad what Ric Bucher says does have a ton of credibility, he was the first to break the Kobe wants out story and he mentions the Knicks don't have assets the Lakers want and the truth of the matter is he's right.

Think about it would you want to give up a Superstar for any of our 80% trash roster?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-17-2007 12:26 AM]

I'd prefer Crawford over Gordon. Seriously. And talking cap, gordon must be reupped soon. he could either walk OR demand a huge raise.

Crawford wont dominate the offense like Gordon or a Kobe would. And Crawford could be a big PG like Phil enjoys. Phil would have Craw on a short leash and that's when Craw performs best. Craw is still young.

I dont think Paul Pierce on the lakers gets them to the playoffs.

Arenas wouldnt get the lakers to the playoffs either.

Bulls are not gonna give up Luol deng (they are building something in Chicago) for Kobe who will want to dominate the offense.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Bobby:

what we do know, whatever chad mentions will likely not happen. and since he does not mention the knicks only means new york has a better chance.

kobe is new york ready. kobe belongs in new york, its only a matter of time and number crunching

Too bad what Ric Bucher says does have a ton of credibility, he was the first to break the Kobe wants out story and he mentions the Knicks don't have assets the Lakers want and the truth of the matter is he's right.

Think about it would you want to give up a Superstar for any of our 80% trash roster?
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-17-2007 12:26 AM]

Posted by Bobby:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Bobby:

what we do know, whatever chad mentions will likely not happen. and since he does not mention the knicks only means new york has a better chance.

kobe is new york ready. kobe belongs in new york, its only a matter of time and number crunching

Too bad what Ric Bucher says does have a ton of credibility, he was the first to break the Kobe wants out story and he mentions the Knicks don't have assets the Lakers want and the truth of the matter is he's right.

Think about it would you want to give up a Superstar for any of our 80% trash roster?
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-17-2007 12:26 AM]

you are missing the point....kobe wants to come to new york

and your 80% trash assessment is bs. like starbury sez, kobe to ny is good for basketball

You point out the only real reasonwe might get Kobe: He wants to come to New York. With his no trade clause, he has the power to force the Lakers to send him where he wants to go. We might not have a superstar to send to LA, but in Lee, Crawford, Nate, and Frye, we have some young talented players, some of whom could develop into allstars. If Chicago does not pony up the assets and Kobe says I want to go to New York, the Lakers will have little choice but to trade with us.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Bobby:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by Bobby:

what we do know, whatever chad mentions will likely not happen. and since he does not mention the knicks only means new york has a better chance.

kobe is new york ready. kobe belongs in new york, its only a matter of time and number crunching

Too bad what Ric Bucher says does have a ton of credibility, he was the first to break the Kobe wants out story and he mentions the Knicks don't have assets the Lakers want and the truth of the matter is he's right.

Think about it would you want to give up a Superstar for any of our 80% trash roster?
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-17-2007 12:26 AM]

you are missing the point....kobe wants to come to new york

and your 80% trash assessment is bs. like starbury sez, kobe to ny is good for basketball

You point out the only real reasonwe might get Kobe: He wants to come to New York. With his no trade clause, he has the power to force the Lakers to send him where he wants to go. We might not have a superstar to send to LA, but in Lee, Crawford, Nate, and Frye, we have some young talented players, some of whom could develop into allstars. If Chicago does not pony up the assets and Kobe says I want to go to New York, the Lakers will have little choice but to trade with us.

He has the power to force the Lakers not to trade him to someone else, but not the power to force the Lakers to trade him. If the Lakers don't like what we offer, they won't do the deal.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Can you all just FEEEEEEEEEEEL the chances of the Knicks getting Kobe growing with every day .

MAN this off season is just bubbling and ready to BOIL!

LOL We don't have the assets Lakers want. No chance he comes here. Just think if we had Bynum instead of Frye, we could offer Bynum, Lee,(hopefully Malik as filler) and Crawford for Kobe.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-16-2007 10:52 PM]

You can thank Thomas for the above not happening. When he brought starbury, JJ1, JJ2, Malik as well as a few others, including Brown, he invested too much into parts that just don't work. Our only way out, to make significant moves is the power of buyouts. This is how it works. If the Knicks don't make the golden opportunities of buying out a significant portion of contracts (the useless ones), then we are going to stick with the bad investiments and get nothing in return. On the other hand, if the Knicks buyout some of these contracts, or at least a good portion of them, and they make room to sign Kobe, Lewis and O'Neal, the investment is much more powerful and the return would be significant. This is the delema! The Knicks are in debt either way. Which debt do you think will mend itself more in the long run? Those three names, along with whoever we would have left over from our current team would make an instant impact. This team would be credible again. If the Knicks don't' make a move like the one above, then it is better to just continue on the youth movement with nothing to look foreward to and an uncertain future.