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TheGame
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6/13/2007  9:01 AM
Usually, it takes one big trade to get everything started because teams are waiting to see who is available. I think the trading will be kicked off by Boston and Portland. Portland really wants Conley and has the assets to get him. Boston really needs to get to the playoffs next year and adding another rookie is not going to help them much. These are the two teams that will likely kickoff the trading spree that will begin a couple days before the draft. I agree with Briggs. This is likely to be a big trading offseason for the NBA. I also think the Knicks will make at least one trade. Standing pat will not get us into the playoffs next year unless our players have significantly improved over the summer.
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6/13/2007  9:13 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Stern can't change teams' rosters

He can probably "facilitate" certain trades. This is a business first and he knows that. It does no good for the NBA to have teams like LA, NY, Boston, etc. to be bad.



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6/13/2007  9:31 AM
I would think Orlando has the most cap space to get players. I think alot of players would like a sunny warm environment.
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6/13/2007  9:42 AM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Stern can't change teams' rosters

He can probably "facilitate" certain trades. This is a business first and he knows that. It does no good for the NBA to have teams like LA, NY, Boston, etc. to be bad.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. How would he facilitate certain trades?
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6/13/2007  9:43 AM
Stern recommended last year to dolan that he hire bryan colangelo, or course dolan laughed and the knicks went onto win 33 inspired games.

You can only help teams so much if they don't retain their lottery pick, what can he do......

Obviously it would have made sense to make atlanta, boston or philly win the lottery, but those guys are now going to be in markets where no one watches them and it will be bad for the league
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6/13/2007  9:55 AM
Bulls to Work Out Conley; Duhon on Block
13th June, 2007 - 7:10 am
Chicago Tribune -

The Bulls have secured a Saturday workout with Ohio State freshman Mike Conley Jr., the top-rated point guard in the June 28 NBA draft.

League sources have also said Bulls third-year point guard Chris Duhon, who has one year at $3.25 million remaining on his contract, is on the trading block.

this may have to do with a possible deal with portland. or possibly another deal in the works with chicago to move up (to possibly #5).
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6/13/2007  10:07 AM

Stern could institute another, or annual, "houston rule" to let teams lop off unwanted contracts...this would help the knicks, if they were smart about it (as they've been for a while now) and not add new bad contracts.

Or what about getting rid of the hard cap altogether?
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6/13/2007  10:19 AM
Stern could institute another, or annual, "houston rule" to let teams lop off unwanted contracts...this would help the knicks, if they were smart about it (as they've been for a while now) and not add new bad contracts.
The Knicks would need about six Allan Houston rules for it to make a difference.
Or what about getting rid of the hard cap altogether?
You're proposing a gigantic change that could only be agreed to in the next collective bargaining agreement. And I suspect the owners of only the 5 or 6 large market teams would support it.
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6/13/2007  10:27 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Stern can't change teams' rosters

He can probably "facilitate" certain trades. This is a business first and he knows that. It does no good for the NBA to have teams like LA, NY, Boston, etc. to be bad.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. How would he facilitate certain trades?


For example, what Stanley said above. Or course they can "make" a team win the lottery. I didn't want Boston getting Oden, but I have to admit it would be great for the NBA. Hey, if Bush can steal 2 elections, I don't think fixing a lottery would be so difficult. :D]

Stern could probably try to change the Salary cap, though it won't matter shortly as we will be ok. Just be creative, remember that this is a business and they can sink it if they don't run it properly. I'm all for honesty though, ironic eh? I think the Salary cap should be more like MLB, if you want to then penalize teams for going over, the way it is it's just toooo difficult after signing one big bad contract (ie. Houston, LJ, etc.)

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6/13/2007  10:35 AM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Stern can't change teams' rosters

He can probably "facilitate" certain trades. This is a business first and he knows that. It does no good for the NBA to have teams like LA, NY, Boston, etc. to be bad.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. How would he facilitate certain trades?


For example, what Stanley said above. Or course they can "make" a team win the lottery. I didn't want Boston getting Oden, but I have to admit it would be great for the NBA. Hey, if Bush can steal 2 elections, I don't think fixing a lottery would be so difficult. :D]

Stern could probably try to change the Salary cap, though it won't matter shortly as we will be ok. Just be creative, remember that this is a business and they can sink it if they don't run it properly. I'm all for honesty though, ironic eh? I think the Salary cap should be more like MLB, if you want to then penalize teams for going over, the way it is it's just toooo difficult after signing one big bad contract (ie. Houston, LJ, etc.)
Won't work. See response to Stanley.

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6/13/2007  6:29 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Stern can't change teams' rosters

He can probably "facilitate" certain trades. This is a business first and he knows that. It does no good for the NBA to have teams like LA, NY, Boston, etc. to be bad.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying. How would he facilitate certain trades?


For example, what Stanley said above. Or course they can "make" a team win the lottery. I didn't want Boston getting Oden, but I have to admit it would be great for the NBA. Hey, if Bush can steal 2 elections, I don't think fixing a lottery would be so difficult. :D]

Stern could probably try to change the Salary cap, though it won't matter shortly as we will be ok. Just be creative, remember that this is a business and they can sink it if they don't run it properly. I'm all for honesty though, ironic eh? I think the Salary cap should be more like MLB, if you want to then penalize teams for going over, the way it is it's just toooo difficult after signing one big bad contract (ie. Houston, LJ, etc.)
Won't work. See response to Stanley.

Maybe in it's current form they wouldn't support it, but what about if there was revenue sharing? (Is that where the luxury tax goes now?).
I'm sure they could modify it to get more on board. It's not a very happy league right now.

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6/15/2007  7:51 AM
with the tragic ratings numbers for the NBA Finals perhaps Stern and his suits will embark upon some creative thinking to support the league

shortening the regular season would good start

basketball in June is simply too late and the start dates and times for playoff games are wack

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6/15/2007  7:52 AM
Posted by misterearl:

with the tragic ratings numbers for the NBA Finals perhaps Stern and his suits will embark upon some creative thinking to support the league

shortening the regular season would good start

basketball in June is simply too late and the start dates and times for playoff games are wack
he wants playoffs to go right up to the draft, then summer league
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6/15/2007  7:57 AM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by misterearl:

with the tragic ratings numbers for the NBA Finals perhaps Stern and his suits will embark upon some creative thinking to support the league

shortening the regular season would good start

basketball in June is simply too late and the start dates and times for playoff games are wack
he wants playoffs to go right up to the draft, then summer league

i think if it had been a compelling series people would have watched on any date at any time.
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6/15/2007  8:08 AM
Marv - don't know if that's necessarily true.

Fans with a vested interest will always watch, but the NBA's challenge is to attract the casual viewer in multiple markets as football does via the well-oiled machine that drives The Super Bowl viewership.

While some major market franchises ( LA, NY, PHI, BOS ) struggle, D Stern has his work cut out
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6/15/2007  9:49 AM
misterearl, you are right to an extent. Football is the one exception to all sports. Everyone watches the superbowl simply because it is one game, this one game they market it like a pay per view event, complete with half time shows and advertising.
Marv, those 9pm starts are just terrible, I would have to say only the die hard sports fan is staying up well into the 11 oclock hour on a weekday.

I would have to say if we had a finals that had a game 7, the ratings would be through the roof, by all means not on the level of the superbowl, but as high as it could be for an nba game.

It did not help that the CAVS were just terrible. If only we could have a finals as competitive as the Spurs vs Suns series. Now thats what we need.
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