Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

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Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.

You're funny. I don't think the LA and Portland situations are similar enough to make any meaningful comparisons, but since you must, blaming the rate of Bynum's development on Kobe is like blaming JO's on Steve Smith.

I'm not really blaming KOME it's clearly his team but Bynum's development process is being stunted with KOME there.

It's going to be funny hearing how the Lakers gave up on him and the Kid dominates somewhere else.

The objective from the Lakers standpoint is that their team dominates, not Bynum. It really doesn't pay to have a top 3 player if they can't compete, and that is a mistake LA made, not Kobe.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

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Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.

You're funny. I don't think the LA and Portland situations are similar enough to make any meaningful comparisons, but since you must, blaming the rate of Bynum's development on Kobe is like blaming JO's on Steve Smith.

I'm not really blaming KOME it's clearly his team but Bynum's development process is being stunted with KOME there.

It's going to be funny hearing how the Lakers gave up on him and the Kid dominates somewhere else.

The objective from the Lakers standpoint is that their team dominates, not Bynum. It really doesn't pay to have a top 3 player if they can't compete, and that is a mistake LA made, not Kobe.

True but according to what was told to Phil a large reason Bynum was drafted was because they were retooling semi rebuilding hoping Bynum turns into Shaq real fast. You got to have a real plan in place if you are going to give up on a once in a lifetime big man. Obviously they don't. I can't wait for them to make the trade with Indy and Jermaine's shoulder or knee gives out on him, while Bynum BEAST the EAST

I also find it comical that last yr around draft time Phil Jackson wanted desperately for the Lakers to move up in the draft to select guess who......





That's right Brandon ROY.....





Because Phil was in love with his size. Good thing for ROY nothing transpired of that and he was able to effectively develop in Portland with no true ball hog to compete with on his roster.

Posted by Bonn1997:

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Posted by TheloniusMonk:

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Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Ignoramus, I am not speaking of age. I am talking to those who said he'd be an allstar in 3 years. This is his 3rd season coming up. Got it?

And who said that? Liar.

I don't remember anyone saying it. And Bynum is already better than Eddy at almost everything. I wish we had Bynum.

If Bynum consistently got playing time and touches his numbers would be pretty much what EY is giving us here, if not better. Bynum really had no shot to develop there, heck the next player on their roster in terms of FGA to KOME was Odom with 12. KOME blew him away with 22FGA, so Bynum had no shot. To be honest Phil is more comfortable anyway with developing a guard in his system vs a big man, Bynum is clearly on the wrong team right now.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bonn1997:

[I don't remember anyone saying it. And Bynum is already better than Eddy at almost everything. I wish we had Bynum.

Bynum's situation is a bit different than Curry's was at the same age, but basically they're very similar.

2nd yr. stats:

Curry -- 19.4 mpg - 58% fg - 62.4% ft - 4.4 rpg - 0.8 blks - 0.5 apg - 1.69 to - 10.5 ppg

Bynum - 21.9 mpg - 55% fg - 66.8% ft - 5.9 rpg - 1.6 blks - 1.1 apg - 1.40 to - 7.8 ppg

From my view Bynum is not as strong as Curry was at the same age and his offense not as developed. Both came into the league too early. When they went head to head you could see that Bynum needs to get a lot stronger. Bynum is a very good prospect and tho i understand the frustration of kobe, it would seem a shame to let Bynum go knowing his upside.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bonn1997:

[I don't remember anyone saying it. And Bynum is already better than Eddy at almost everything. I wish we had Bynum.

Bynum's situation is a bit different than Curry's was at the same age, but basically they're very similar.

2nd yr. stats:

Curry -- 19.4 mpg - 58% fg - 62.4% ft - 4.4 rpg - 0.8 blks - 0.5 apg - 1.69 to - 10.5 ppg

Bynum - 21.9 mpg - 55% fg - 66.8% ft - 5.9 rpg - 1.6 blks - 1.1 apg - 1.40 to - 7.8 ppg

From my view Bynum is not as strong as Curry was at the same age and his offense not as developed. Both came into the league too early. When they went head to head you could see that Bynum needs to get a lot stronger. Bynum is a very good prospect and tho i understand the frustration of kobe, it would seem a shame to let Bynum go knowing his upside.

Posted by BRIGGS:

I think Kobe probably views himself as in his prime/wants to win now and there are too many young guys on that team to get it done. I'm sure there are plenty of teams including the knicks who are trying to pawn some of their youth for Oneal--which shows you what type of player the NBA thinks Bynum is. Posters on a message board who kill Bynum because he's not Shaq all star etc..[and there will only be one shaq in our lifetime's] at this stage of development are just being ignorant to his upside.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-02-2007 7:06 PM]

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Hey, the two most intelligent people on the board agree I see. Ignoramus, this forum doesn't allow one to go back to pre-draft and draft debates from the Bynum draft era. Those who made those predictions know who they are. If it wasn't u stay out of it sonny boy.