Posted by martin:

Posted by tkf:

forget gasol, I like this shawn williams kid. elite athlete and shotblocker, perfect to put alongside curry and with some of his off the court questions, he will be there at 23.. that is a no brainer...

are the Knicks picking williams because he is the perfect compliment to Curry or because he is the right talent and piece at the PF spot?

I hope it's the later.

To get late into the playoffs EVERY starter on the team needs to be solid on both sides of the court (or at least not overly deficient) and have a the smarts, intensity, and team orientation. I hope williams has that otherwise I don't want him.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by martin:

Posted by djsunyc:

if i'm pheonix - i trade amare for kg.

whoa, why?

how much longer does nash have?

trading marion is a tough move for pheonix b/c they have nobody else that can replace what he brings.

they're not going to trade to get younger, b/c that takes them out of the title picture.

they need a big man that can defend - something amare doesn't do.

and kg is a better, more well rounded player than amare.

and amare is one of the FEW players minny can sell to their fanbase in order to move kg.

so the suns window is small, they should go all in and get kg to try to get past dallas and the spurs. and when amare was missing all of 2005 - they won 54 games and got to the WCF's - but still couldn't get past dallas or the spurs.

nash, bell, marion, diaw, kg - i'll take it.

Posted by nixluva:

Right now we have Nate, Q, Steph and Jamal who are all capable of hitting from outside. Balkman, Lee and Collins are a work in progress, but I think they'll get a little better as we move along. The idea of taking Sean Williams is pretty interesting in that there really aren't many young bigs that are natural shotblockers and he is one of them. We could always look to pick up a Kapono or Matt Carroll to fill our need for another shooter. I'd remind you that despite Nate being a hot head, not a good defender and IMO too small, he CAN SHOOT! He get's his shot off in the NBA without a problem and since he's so quick he can easily find the open space on the floor. I may not love his flaws, but I do like his energy and shooting ability. If Isiah sticks with him, I would understand.

A big SG like Almond would be an interesting pickup, but I have a feeling that Isiah sees our biggest problem is on the DEFENSIVE side of the ball. We can score with anyone in the league. We just need to get more stops. In crunchtime, If you put Curry, Williams, Balkman, Collins and Steph on the floor you have a pretty good defensive unit that can still score.

I could understand him looking to Sean Williams, but then i'd expect that he'd have to make a trade, cuz we'd have too many PF's. Frye and Jared in particular and now we also have Morris. So it would only make sense to do some kind of trade either for a pick or maybe he does make a go for KG or JO.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Allanfan20:

I agree Bip, but 2 of those players were drafted before we even had Curry. It sounded like we were almost gonna build the team around Channing Frye, purely, before the Curry trade.

I also think Isiah might have picked Balkman for the small foward spot, which makes Jefferies even more stupid.

Regardless, as always, this is a huge draft for our us, now and the future.

Bip, who do you like? I've been very curious, and I know you said you don't know a ton of players outside of Uconn, but I'm still curious what you'd like to see happen.

Allan, your post above just verbalized what I was thinking in my head. We seem to be just adding players. Let's say that Balkman was drafted to be a SF than that means our future looks like this.

SF-Balkman
PF-?
C-Curry
PG-Collins
SG-?

I say ? at the shooting guard because if your core is Balkman, Curry and collins than you desperately need one of your 30 minute guys to be a consistent shooter or else Curry is going to be seeing quadruple teams for the rest of his career. 3(really 7 years) into our plan and we only have one guaranteed starter for 2-3 years from now. We keep singing the praises of our GM for building this team yet we have no idea who is going to be in our line-up. I think it's time for Isiah to consolidate some young talent and bring in starting compliments to his building block. I personally would trade the pick with a Nate and Frye and go for a higher pick or a younger 2 way player at any position.

As for the guys I'm high on. I don't consider myself an expert when I only see guys like Brewer play 4 times a year and some of the others once or twice. Outside of the big east I just don't have an opinion on these guys because the sample is too small.

Posted by Bonn1997:

My thread was just a joke, Martin!

Posted by MS:

Would you trade up say a Jamal Crawford/Frye package to Minny for Ricky Davis and their pick?

We are trying to be uncovential and obviously reducing our contracts is very important. Crawford and Davis are similar, Ricky a little stronger

Looking at: Thorton, Wright, Conley, Noah, perhaps brewer or green, good talent with the TWolves pick.

McHale is dumb enough to do anything and I think he might gamble if frye is involved.....