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5/17/2007  2:26 PM
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I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!

I agree with that. Kobe jumper is not as pure as H2O.
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5/17/2007  2:32 PM
You might not be seeing much posting from Duncan in this series, but he is one of the best post players in the last ten years. He has mutiple moves, good footwork, and can work the glass. I have seen games where this guy has looked unstoppable even with two players guarding him. He does not over power people like Curry, but he uses his length and footwork to get off a high percentage shot.

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5/17/2007  2:45 PM
Duncan can run the floor, can handle the ball, can pass the ball, has twice the range shooting the ball. Early in his career did everything and more offensively than what Curry shows now. He just doesn't take that many shots b/c he doesn't have too. If he wanted to he could average in the mid/upper 20's quite easily.
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5/17/2007  4:19 PM
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I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!

Yea I guess if you look at that way, but I don't get the bird example, I think he was just comparing one dimension of both players games, their post game. I really don't think he feels curry is the player duncan is, as any of us don't either.....
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5/17/2007  6:07 PM
Tim is "plus" player and Eddy is "minus". This tells it all
Tim is producing victories for his team by NOT turning the ball over, by making ALL players around him better (even second string role players), passing to open man, creating space and doubleteams. He takes the blame for lost game on himself, not on refs, teammates, inguries, or full-moon time.
So Tim is great but Eddy is just some player with big body and cool tattoos who happeneds to be a Knick at a time.
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5/17/2007  6:16 PM
Posted by tkf:
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I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!

Yea I guess if you look at that way, but I don't get the bird example, I think he was just comparing one dimension of both players games, their post game. I really don't think he feels curry is the player duncan is, as any of us don't either.....

Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.
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5/17/2007  7:55 PM
Posted by martin:
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Posted by tkf:

I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!

Yea I guess if you look at that way, but I don't get the bird example, I think he was just comparing one dimension of both players games, their post game. I really don't think he feels curry is the player duncan is, as any of us don't either.....

Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

Passing out of the post is a very important part of being a low post player. Curry's really only 0.5 dimensional. (He has half of one dimension down.)
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5/17/2007  8:20 PM
Posted by Marv:

you guys kill me even mentioning curry in the same sentence as duncan.

duncan is a god. i just moved him onto my 3rd team all-time, bouncing rick barry.

here are a few reminders of the 'unathletic" tim duncan:



For the record, it was only one guy(the thread starter) who mentioned Curry and Duncan in the same breath. So please dont point to this thread, when you enter another one of the many Anti-Curry threads to say that you guys or I believe the correct term is "Lovers" think that Curry is as good as Duncan.
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5/18/2007  12:12 AM
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Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.
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5/18/2007  1:38 AM
Duncan's quickness, coordination and ballhandling at the power forward position is top 3 in the history of the game. His bank shot is the best ever. His hook shot is top tier. He's got more instinct on the court than Eddy's got at Baskin Robbin's.
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Duncan's quickness, coordination and ballhandling at the power forward position is top 3 in the history of the game. His bank shot is the best ever. His hook shot is top tier. He's got more instinct on the court than Eddy's got at Baskin Robbin's.

those athletic vids are SO old!
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5/18/2007  2:21 PM
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Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

It's not an exaggeration. Curry does not beat his man and a helper. That's what happened in the second half of the season and why Curry has a ton of TO's and why he struggled more in the second half of the season.

Sure, to pass out of the post you need guys cutting and moving, so there is some responsibility on the rest of the team and coaching staff, but to say that Curry passes out of the post is to also say anyone in the post passes out of the post... which amounts to nothing. Curry makes lazy or off-target passes to perimeter players, he hold the ball low, he holds the ball too long. Is he getting better? Sure, minimally.

Can he get better, sure? Is he good at passing out of the post? Not even close!
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Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

AHHHAHAHA. HHAHAA. LOL. HHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I just re-read your post.

Did you just say that Curry was the best big man in the post? Holy crap. You mean you would not want the ball in the hands of Shaq, TD or someone else before you would want the ball in Curry's hands?

Dude, statistically speaking Curry had the most points in the paint, that does not mean he is the best post player, just means he doesn't know how to do anything BUT that.
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5/18/2007  5:06 PM
Posted by martin:
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Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

AHHHAHAHA. HHAHAA. LOL. HHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I just re-read your post.

Did you just say that Curry was the best big man in the post? Holy crap. You mean you would not want the ball in the hands of Shaq, TD or someone else before you would want the ball in Curry's hands?

Dude, statistically speaking Curry had the most points in the paint, that does not mean he is the best post player, just means he doesn't know how to do anything BUT that.
Exactly. If Duncan had no skills other than low post scoring, he'd sit in the low post all game and probably get 19 or 20 PPG and lead the league in points in the paint.
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5/18/2007  5:21 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by martin:

Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

AHHHAHAHA. HHAHAA. LOL. HHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I just re-read your post.

Did you just say that Curry was the best big man in the post? Holy crap. You mean you would not want the ball in the hands of Shaq, TD or someone else before you would want the ball in Curry's hands?

Dude, statistically speaking Curry had the most points in the paint, that does not mean he is the best post player, just means he doesn't know how to do anything BUT that.

Part true and part BS... true is the part that scoring the most points in the paint does not mean you are the best post player. I agree with that.

BS is the part about you saying that is all he can do. How about this. Maybe he just does that better than everyone else. Or maybe he can do that so why shoot jumpers? Are you telling me, if you can score in the paint 60% of the time, you are going to forgo that and shoot jumpers, a lower % shot, just to show that you can? come on martin, this is NBA basketball not the game of H O R S E.......
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5/19/2007  1:18 AM
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I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!

Yea I guess if you look at that way, but I don't get the bird example, I think he was just comparing one dimension of both players games, their post game. I really don't think he feels curry is the player duncan is, as any of us don't either.....

I definately don't think Curry is even close to Tim when their games are compared as a whole, but i do think that Eddie's skills of scoring in the paint are comparible if not already better. When Duncan is trying to score in the paint he does a great job, but i don't think its his scoring down low thats a strongest part of his game. When he is facing the basket he is very effective but like it was said before it comes from passing, drives and the bank shot. Maybe i don't watch enough of spurs games but i don't remember him shooting hook shots- its either dunks, bank shots or layups(which are bank shots as well). So yeah, Curry is the better scorer in the paint, his career % is better and can a player be called a true post player if he does't shot the hook shot? Kareem(sp?) sure had one and he has the all time points record as a result and no i am not saying Eddie is like him just because he shoots the hook shot too
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To be fair to Duncan he once in a while will shoot the 12-15 footer without banking it, but that doesn't happen often enough for me to really consider it a part of his offense.
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Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

AHHHAHAHA. HHAHAA. LOL. HHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I just re-read your post.

Did you just say that Curry was the best big man in the post? Holy crap. You mean you would not want the ball in the hands of Shaq, TD or someone else before you would want the ball in Curry's hands?

Dude, statistically speaking Curry had the most points in the paint, that does not mean he is the best post player, just means he doesn't know how to do anything BUT that.

Part true and part BS... true is the part that scoring the most points in the paint does not mean you are the best post player. I agree with that.

BS is the part about you saying that is all he can do. How about this. Maybe he just does that better than everyone else. Or maybe he can do that so why shoot jumpers? Are you telling me, if you can score in the paint 60% of the time, you are going to forgo that and shoot jumpers, a lower % shot, just to show that you can? come on martin, this is NBA basketball not the game of H O R S E.......

What else positive was Curry doing? Moving the ball? Creating shots for others? Passing to cutters? Playing D? What else was he doing?

tkf: if Curry was so good, injuries aside, the knicks would be able to scrap more than 23 2 years ago and 33 this past year. In a freakishly weak Eastern conference.
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5/19/2007  1:07 PM
Posted by martin:
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Posted by nixluva:
Posted by martin:

Curry is also a one dimensional post player: dude can only score when he is one-on-one. Can't pass out. Doesn't know how to re-post and/or fight for position.

This is an EXAGGERATION!!! Curry ROUTINELY beats not just his man but help as well. His one dimension happens to be one of the rarist in the league. Let me ask you again, how many guys were better in the paint than him? ZERO? He DOES pass out of the post, but you must remember that this team also has to do it's job better in making more out of his passes. Sure he doesn't pass as much as he should and his passes aren't always very good yet, but he was making better passes later in the season and we still didn't take full advantage of it. That will change, but for now it's something he has to keep working on. He was avg'ing about an assist a game and I think he'd get at least one more if we had another catch and shoot player or 2 to play with him.

How many times did Francis get the ball and then hesistate and look to try and dribble his way to a shot? So many other guys like Frye, Jared, Mardy, Balkman also received passes and couldn't convert. You think that doesn't make a difference? Compare that to what Duncan has to pass to. Yeah he's much better at it, but they can convert what he does much better. I think we need to give this a bit more time and see how it develops. As I said this is all new for Curry and the other Knicks.

AHHHAHAHA. HHAHAA. LOL. HHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I just re-read your post.

Did you just say that Curry was the best big man in the post? Holy crap. You mean you would not want the ball in the hands of Shaq, TD or someone else before you would want the ball in Curry's hands?

Dude, statistically speaking Curry had the most points in the paint, that does not mean he is the best post player, just means he doesn't know how to do anything BUT that.

Part true and part BS... true is the part that scoring the most points in the paint does not mean you are the best post player. I agree with that.

BS is the part about you saying that is all he can do. How about this. Maybe he just does that better than everyone else. Or maybe he can do that so why shoot jumpers? Are you telling me, if you can score in the paint 60% of the time, you are going to forgo that and shoot jumpers, a lower % shot, just to show that you can? come on martin, this is NBA basketball not the game of H O R S E.......

What else positive was Curry doing? Moving the ball? Creating shots for others? Passing to cutters? Playing D? What else was he doing?

tkf: if Curry was so good, injuries aside, the knicks would be able to scrap more than 23 2 years ago and 33 this past year. In a freakishly weak Eastern conference.

martin, a lot of times guys get shots, open shots that don't directly come from the passer , but because of him, curry got the knicks guards a lot of open looks because he was always doubled, now ask yourself this, how well do our guards shoot? how well do our forwards shoot? I will save you the time, outside of nate, not very well.
tkf: if Curry was so good, injuries aside, the knicks would be able to scrap more than 23 2 years ago and 33 this past year. In a freakishly weak Eastern conference.

you are right, and in that case, Okafor, Jermane oneal, Pau gasol, all are not that good either, because their teams either had very similar or worse records this year...... Go figure, right? I can find anything to knock any player on, that is easy, no one is saying eddy is great, why is it that it has to be one way with some of you guys. It can never be that curry is a very good post player, a player that commands double teams every game. Instead it has to be some negative attached with anything positive he does. Right now you are just fault finding and it seems as if you are trying so hard that you are leaving out any room for reasonableness...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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BS is the part about you saying that is all he can do. How about this. Maybe he just does that better than everyone else. Or maybe he can do that so why shoot jumpers? Are you telling me, if you can score in the paint 60% of the time, you are going to forgo that and shoot jumpers, a lower % shot, just to show that you can? come on martin, this is NBA basketball not the game of H O R S E.......

With the double teams he was facing at the end of the season, he was really struggling to get his offense going. What he was going to do was always very predictable - same basic back to the basket, turn or spin, shoot. Other teams would push him out so he'd be too far from the basket to work comfortably or double as soon as he touched to cut off his turn/spin.

If he develops a jump shot, he'll be able to stretch the defense a bit and open up the floor for himself. He'll still be an offensive threat at a greater distance from the hoop and have more options once he touches the ball.
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