Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Allanfan20:

If Curry can play a lot harder on defense and average the same number of blocks, I would be happy, b/c not everyone can be a good shotblocker, and that applies to Curry. Shotblocking is a skill. That's not just about effort.

However, I agree he needs to raise his rebound numbers and put up a stronger effort on the D. No questions.

I am not as impatient with him, in terms of his turnovers, however. I don't doubt that he'll learn the game more, as he goes, so I think his turnovers will decrease. The D and rebounding is huge though, and is the reason I'm willing to trade him.

What's the minimum offer you'd be willing to trade him for?

You know perfectly well I don't do trade proposals. I think they suck and are one of the more annoying things of message boards, b/c I know they wont happen. Actually, the last trade proposal I made was "Stephon Marbury for Dalembert." and VERY SHORTLY afterwards, there was a controversial news report that said the Knicks were thinking of doing just that trade, and Isiah shot it down, angry as hell about it. I am dead set convinced that a media personality was on this message board and thought it should happen and tried to startle things up. And we know perfectly well that media people come to this site, b/c guys like Mark Berman have actually aknowledged that on their blogs and so and so. Other than that, the only trade proposal that actually happened was DJs Curry trade prediction.

As for Curry, I actually like the guy, believe it or not. I think he can actually be part of a winning team, the way he is right now, but not with MarFordNis as your backcourt, and not starting next to David Lee and Channing Frye. In other words? He needs a completely different team. However, if I wanna trade him, I know I can get a good amount for him, b/c you hear people rave about him throughout the entire league, so you know fine and well people would be willing to give up something for him. Maybe a package for Bynum, since the Lakers are trying to win now, and he gives them a scoring option that they really need.

Don't ask me how that needs to be done, b/c I don't know and I know it wont happen, and I know the Knicks aren't trading Curry either, so I might as well just appreciate what he has to offer now, and just hope and pray he can change.

We could have had Dalembert if it wasn't for you!

Posted by RemBee76:

That's funny. So your requirement is that as long as he's wearing a Knicks uniform, he's okay? Regardless his weaknesses?
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No. When I said we over-paid I meant that we probably would have been able to get those picks protected, and possibly could have done the deal without the pick swap. But that’s pure speculation on my part, and irrelevant because regardless of what we may have been able to pay for him, he is ours, and hindsight discussions on what that deal might have been are irrelevant.

This is different from the question of what does Eddy have to do to justify the deal. Eddy shows some improvement in other areas and the team builds its personnel and system around him, I think it becomes very hard to argue that it wasn't a fair deal.

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Fair enough.

Posted by djsunyc:

eddy plays alot of minutes, takes alot of shots and the offense is geared around him.

if we win, he's part of the solution.
if we don't, he's part of the problem.

everything else we talk about is just filler...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-13-2007 1:55 PM]

Yeah, I think he is' a part of the problem, but not necessarily the whole problem. It's just that some people say he's the franchise of this team. I totally dissagree. After six seasons of just improving his offense a few points, I want more from this guy than he's been built up to be. And Thomas is the one who's built him up. I want to see it. No more excuses.

I WISH we'd drafted Bynum!

show up not fat.

A summer diet.

Posted by BasketballJones:

I'd like to see Eddy spend less time here:


And more time here:

what are you trying to say? that eddy curry's so fat, he climbed in the Grand Canyon and got stuck?

I posted a list on one of the threads about his top 10 main deficiencies. I don't know where it is. Nonetheless, here's some of it:

1) Effort on the floor -- especially on the defensive end. Play harder, even if it means less minutes!
2) Defensive intensity. It's okay to get a defensive foul if you prevented the other team's player from getting an easy layup. Try!
3) Shotblocking, help defense. He can't sit around like a lazy fat ass on defense.
4) Passing out of the post. Huge. He's been lazy and selfish and hasn't even looked for teammates when double teamed. This is the main reason why he's worst in the league in offensive fouls and turnovers for a big. He needs to stop that trend. It will take work, but he will need to change his mentality.
5) Free throw shooting -- he must work on this heavily.
6) Rebounding - a 6'11" supposidely athletic player rebounding at as poor a rate as him is unacceptable. He's in the wrong position and often doesn't go all out for rebounds. This is another effort issue.

Moderate improvements in each of these categories with the effort being shown, as well as him keeping his weight in check... that's all it would take for me.

So, if EC could play 30 mpg (less minutes because he's playing hard), but still put up 18 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.2 blks, 2 asts, ~70% FT, and decrease his turnovers and offensive foul rates, that's all it would take from me.

However, to do this it would require a complete mentality change, which he has not shown.