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TheGame
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5/2/2007  6:09 PM
Definitely a trade to consider. Balkman does not make Lee expendable, but he does do alot of what Lee does and he is a better defensive player. It really boils down to this: if you think this team can contend for a championship in the next 2-3 years, then you trade for O' Neal. If you don't, then you stand pat and let guys like lee, Blakman, and Collins develop and see what you have in two years. I would think that with Marbury, Q, Balkman, O'Neal, and Curry, that would be a pretty good lineup, but I am inclined to keep Lee and focus on trading Frye and Nate. Frye and Nate and change probably won't land us O'Neal but we should still be able to get a high draft pick or a solid player for one or both.
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5/2/2007  6:42 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

It's a risky move, albeit a one you have to consider.


For one, ALWAYS sell high.

Lee has the most trade value of anyone on the roster.


2, Even DPOY cands like Hakeem and Drob needed low post help.


But I don't think JO is the answer b/c there aren't enough points to go around down low.


Some realistic options:



JO
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Anderson Vareajo
Kendrick Perkins
Nene
Mikki Moore
Shawn Marion
Darko Milicic
Joakim Noah
Al Horford

Here's some trades to consider:


DLee & 23 for Noah/Horford

DLee, 23, and Malik Rose for Nene

DLee and Malik Rose for Resigned Milicic

Dlee, 23, and Malik Rose for Rasheed Wallace

DLee and Malik Rose for Udonis Haslem

Dlee for Mikki Moore & 1st

DLee for Perkins

Dlee for Veraejo & 1st

DLee, Malik Rose, & 23 for Shawn Marion

Dlee, Crawford, Malik Rose for JO


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-02-2007 6:43 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/2/2007  6:46 PM
if you think this team can contend for a championship in the next 2-3 years, then you trade for O' Neal. If you don't, then you stand pat and let guys like lee, Blakman, and Collins develop and see what you have in two years.
I don't think it's that simple. If things don't work out with Jermain, then he is a player you can still move around and bring in some new pieces with. The trade wouldn't be as lock down as some make it out to be.

[Edited by - matt4281 on 05-02-2007 6:46 PM]
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5/2/2007  6:48 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by bobs3304:

It's a risky move, albeit a one you have to consider.


For one, ALWAYS sell high.

Lee has the most trade value of anyone on the roster.


2, Even DPOY cands like Hakeem and Drob needed low post help.


But I don't think JO is the answer b/c there aren't enough points to go around down low.


Some realistic options:



JO
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Anderson Vareajo
Kendrick Perkins
Nene
Mikki Moore
Shawn Marion
Darko Milicic
Joakim Noah
Al Horford

Here's some trades to consider:


DLee & 23 for Noah/Horford

DLee, 23, and Malik Rose for Nene

DLee and Malik Rose for Resigned Milicic

Dlee, 23, and Malik Rose for Rasheed Wallace

DLee and Malik Rose for Udonis Haslem

Dlee for Mikki Moore & 1st

DLee for Perkins

Dlee for Veraejo & 1st

DLee, Malik Rose, & 23 for Shawn Marion

Dlee, Crawford, Malik Rose for JO


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-02-2007 6:43 PM]

I originally stopped reading after Nene and Milicic...but then I noticed you offered the same package for Nene as you did for the Matrix?
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5/2/2007  6:54 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by bobs3304:

It's a risky move, albeit a one you have to consider.


For one, ALWAYS sell high.

Lee has the most trade value of anyone on the roster.


2, Even DPOY cands like Hakeem and Drob needed low post help.


But I don't think JO is the answer b/c there aren't enough points to go around down low.


Some realistic options:



JO
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Anderson Vareajo
Kendrick Perkins
Nene
Mikki Moore
Shawn Marion
Darko Milicic
Joakim Noah
Al Horford

Here's some trades to consider:


DLee & 23 for Noah/Horford

DLee, 23, and Malik Rose for Nene

DLee and Malik Rose for Resigned Milicic

Dlee, 23, and Malik Rose for Rasheed Wallace

DLee and Malik Rose for Udonis Haslem

Dlee for Mikki Moore & 1st

DLee for Perkins

Dlee for Veraejo & 1st

DLee, Malik Rose, & 23 for Shawn Marion

Dlee, Crawford, Malik Rose for JO


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-02-2007 6:43 PM]

I originally stopped reading after Nene and Milicic...but then I noticed you offered the same package for Nene as you did for the Matrix?


I don't think anyone could have come up with those trades but him, seriously! Just Putrid beyond
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5/2/2007  7:35 PM
i dont know if I'm the only one but trading DLee would be the final straw for me.
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5/2/2007  7:47 PM
Udonis haslem is a bum. No way I want him unless he was LEEs back up.

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5/2/2007  9:23 PM
Here's the article. And looks like KG will end his career in Minnesota.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21832.shtml
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5/2/2007  9:25 PM
I can't believe that Thomas is calling Curry his 'franchise cornerstone'! 'Franchise cornerstone'?!!!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/2/2007  9:51 PM
Posted by Queeniepop:
Posted by NYKBocker:

If Zeke trades DLee, Balkman or Collins there will be a coup d'État!

I only think the coup applies to Lee. If it takes Balkman and Collins to get JO, I think the fans will be very happy. Ditto for Frye. But you are waaay overrating both Collins and Balkman.

Not overating them at all. I know they have a ways to go but they represent a great base for the future. Hard working, defensive minded team players who do not back down.
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5/2/2007  10:07 PM
Hard working, defensive minded team players who do not back down.

Yes, could be the nucleus to build around for a real Knicks defensive team in a few years.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/3/2007  12:06 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by MaTT4281:
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by bobs3304:

It's a risky move, albeit a one you have to consider.


For one, ALWAYS sell high.

Lee has the most trade value of anyone on the roster.


2, Even DPOY cands like Hakeem and Drob needed low post help.


But I don't think JO is the answer b/c there aren't enough points to go around down low.


Some realistic options:



JO
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Anderson Vareajo
Kendrick Perkins
Nene
Mikki Moore
Shawn Marion
Darko Milicic
Joakim Noah
Al Horford

Here's some trades to consider:


DLee & 23 for Noah/Horford

DLee, 23, and Malik Rose for Nene

DLee and Malik Rose for Resigned Milicic

Dlee, 23, and Malik Rose for Rasheed Wallace

DLee and Malik Rose for Udonis Haslem

Dlee for Mikki Moore & 1st

DLee for Perkins

Dlee for Veraejo & 1st

DLee, Malik Rose, & 23 for Shawn Marion

Dlee, Crawford, Malik Rose for JO


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-02-2007 6:43 PM]

I originally stopped reading after Nene and Milicic...but then I noticed you offered the same package for Nene as you did for the Matrix?


I don't think anyone could have come up with those trades but him, seriously! Just Putrid beyond

LOL............


I guess in a purest sense of Value, we couldn't turn down Lee for Joneil. But I think there is alot of knicks that would almost sign for two more years of losing if you promised that the knicks were going to buikd around Dlee and Balkman with the picks. I don't want to give up either.

[Edited by - anji on 05-03-2007 12:18 AM]
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5/3/2007  9:22 AM
Posted by highfivesucka:

i dont know if I'm the only one but trading DLee would be the final straw for me.

I agree. Dlee trade will be the definitive move for me to let this Knicks thing go.
It's like tuff love. You holding on to it and then some final little thing coming out... and it's over.

[Edited by - arkrud on 05-03-2007 09:22 AM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 05-03-2007 09:22 AM]
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5/3/2007  10:24 AM
Posted by technomaster:

Whatever. Whenever you have an opportunity to get the best player in a trade, you consider it. We kind of got bitten in the butt a little bit w/ the Francis/Ariza deal, and the Eddy Curry for Tim Thomas & Draft picks deal (when it turned out the draft picks were both lottery!).

we seriously need to rethink that mantra. or at least, adhere to the "consider" part more so than actually pulling the trigger every time. if we keep cashing in all our assets on chasing stars, we'll perpetually be a few years away from competing and have our flaws exposed night after night.
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5/3/2007  10:27 AM
Posted by TheGame:

Definitely a trade to consider. Balkman does not make Lee expendable, but he does do alot of what Lee does and he is a better defensive player. It really boils down to this: if you think this team can contend for a championship in the next 2-3 years, then you trade for O' Neal. If you don't, then you stand pat and let guys like lee, Blakman, and Collins develop and see what you have in two years. I would think that with Marbury, Q, Balkman, O'Neal, and Curry, that would be a pretty good lineup, but I am inclined to keep Lee and focus on trading Frye and Nate. Frye and Nate and change probably won't land us O'Neal but we should still be able to get a high draft pick or a solid player for one or both.

then how is this even a question!? i love a lot of the players on this team, but there is absolutely no realistic way we compete for a championship in the next 2-3 years.

so i guess i'm saying i agree, but don't think o'neal's that much of a difference-maker for us.
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5/3/2007  12:04 PM
Indi blow it big time with JO and much better personnel that we have.
Why JO and our scrubs will have better results?
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5/3/2007  12:16 PM
I'm not too sure Indy would trade with us unless they were ripping us off.
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5/3/2007  12:44 PM
More and more i'm leaning towards the patient approach. We dont have to make any crazy or risky moves at this point. We've got a lot of 20 something players and in 2 years we can make better decisions on which way to go. At that point in time it will be clear what this group is all about and if we should blow it up and start over or just look to add that star player.
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5/3/2007  1:01 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by bobs3304:

It's a risky move, albeit a one you have to consider.


For one, ALWAYS sell high.

Lee has the most trade value of anyone on the roster.


2, Even DPOY cands like Hakeem and Drob needed low post help.


But I don't think JO is the answer b/c there aren't enough points to go around down low.


Some realistic options:



JO
Rasheed Wallace
Udonis Haslem
Anderson Vareajo
Kendrick Perkins
Nene
Mikki Moore
Shawn Marion
Darko Milicic
Joakim Noah
Al Horford

Here's some trades to consider:


DLee & 23 for Noah/Horford

DLee, 23, and Malik Rose for Nene

DLee and Malik Rose for Resigned Milicic

Dlee, 23, and Malik Rose for Rasheed Wallace

DLee and Malik Rose for Udonis Haslem

Dlee for Mikki Moore & 1st

DLee for Perkins

Dlee for Veraejo & 1st

DLee, Malik Rose, & 23 for Shawn Marion

Dlee, Crawford, Malik Rose for JO


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-02-2007 6:43 PM]

Here are some more trade to consider:

Malik Rose for Tim Duncan

#23 and Jamal Crawford for Chris Paul and Tyson Chandler

#23 and Dlee for Chris Bosh and complete and after that...

Jerome James for Dwight Howard to buffer up the D

Eddie Curry and a future second round pick for Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom

Howard Eisley for Kevin Garnett
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5/3/2007  1:02 PM
^ lol at the Gus joke.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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