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4/21/2007  8:19 AM
Posted by franco12:
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i wouldn't be surprised if they took a guy and kept him overseas for a year. splitter has a bad buyout but when i spoke with grunwalk, unprompted, he brought up splitter's name. so they are definitely keeping tabs on him.

I don't think Knick fans would buy "keeping a draft pick someplace" no way. Not a pick in round 1. How can they sell that from a team that won 31 games?
My personal preference is Almond. We need a full-sized 2 guard who can shoot it--a guy who can help now. Q-rich is our big guard and he's coming off back surgery. I think @ 23 we can get him and I think we should. This is just throwing out other possibilities yet it wouldnt go over well in NY.[i.e staying in europe] that would be a tremendous publicity blunder.

Briggs- would you still send this years pick to Utah to clear out our marbury obligation?

I would because we're going to be lotto for the next couple years.

I don't know if we can do that? I wouldnt do it myself--I think we can get a really good player and that is not guaranteed at 23 in any draft. If the Bulls are 9 and we are 23--there is a decent chance we could actually get a better player. I really hope they look at Almond because he can play NBA basketball right now--he's a large athletic 2 guard with long arms and a nice shot--I see this player as a surprise who can help us spread the floor off the bench from day 1--lead the SL in scoring and stay with the theme of bigger guards. If we are banking on Q to come back 100% from back surgery--it would be a strategic mistake. A lot of the players in the nBA who we could get cheap--like a stoudemire[which i think we should as a back up PG] still arent 6-6 225. Imagine two rebounding guards like almond and collins both 6-6 for the long term.
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4/21/2007  10:55 AM
If almond is so good the knicks won't be able to draft him. The way you guys talk about him he is a sure fire lottery pick.

I can't wait till the yahoo draft vids come out.
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4/21/2007  11:31 AM
Forgot about tiago with that booty posted up there.

I think the dude looks like a victim but he has the shotblocker mentality. He's like darko but just not as talented or skilled. He has real international experience, but when I saw him play in a game for the first time last summer he wasn't a starter. That doesn't mean he didn't play well. He just looks like a victim. he is gonna get a lot of flap just by the way he looks especially if he doesn't play well. Still I would support drafting him at 23 cuz he could very well be available. The question would be is he ready to be a rotation player right away? He would need a NBA adjustment period but he must be able play right away. That is the question mark.
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4/21/2007  12:52 PM
people have been talking about splitter as a lotto pick for at least the last four years. I don't know. I don't trust him to come over. I'd draft him in the second round and sign him with the LLE, but not use a first rounder on him.

I'm thinking he's Vuja 2, or Fran Vasquez 2.
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4/21/2007  5:21 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:

i wouldn't be surprised if they took a guy and kept him overseas for a year. splitter has a bad buyout but when i spoke with grunwalk, unprompted, he brought up splitter's name. so they are definitely keeping tabs on him.

I don't think Knick fans would buy "keeping a draft pick someplace" no way. Not a pick in round 1. How can they sell that from a team that won 31 games?
My personal preference is Almond. We need a full-sized 2 guard who can shoot it--a guy who can help now. Q-rich is our big guard and he's coming off back surgery. I think @ 23 we can get him and I think we should. This is just throwing out other possibilities yet it wouldnt go over well in NY.[i.e staying in europe] that would be a tremendous publicity blunder.

Briggs- would you still send this years pick to Utah to clear out our marbury obligation?

I would because we're going to be lotto for the next couple years.

I don't know if we can do that? I wouldnt do it myself--I think we can get a really good player and that is not guaranteed at 23 in any draft. If the Bulls are 9 and we are 23--there is a decent chance we could actually get a better player. I really hope they look at Almond because he can play NBA basketball right now--he's a large athletic 2 guard with long arms and a nice shot--I see this player as a surprise who can help us spread the floor off the bench from day 1--lead the SL in scoring and stay with the theme of bigger guards. If we are banking on Q to come back 100% from back surgery--it would be a strategic mistake. A lot of the players in the nBA who we could get cheap--like a stoudemire[which i think we should as a back up PG] still arent 6-6 225. Imagine two rebounding guards like almond and collins both 6-6 for the long term.

I think the last part of your post really caught my attention. Imagine two guards who are 6'6". Almond averaged 28 points a game this year and went to the line 10X a game! He is an O machine. Damn, that is just a few below Durant (not meaning that to be taken as any more than points). It's worth reading his profile:
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1026
Says that 3 teams ahead of us in the draft were scouting him though. But like we all know, this is one deep draft. Really, The Curry trade is probably strongly in our favor if Chicago gets #9 and us #23 cause we might get a gem there. Really, somebody EXTREMELY good is going to slip to us and Isiah will know who it is. Hopefully a need position.

The draft (unfortunately) has been the most exciting part of the season for me since the Knicks went bad post Ewing.

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4/21/2007  5:27 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

If almond is so good the knicks won't be able to draft him. The way you guys talk about him he is a sure fire lottery pick.

I can't wait till the yahoo draft vids come out.

He is an offensive machine, at least at the college level. Basically, 1/3 of his 28pt average is from the foul line. That is extremely impressive, considering he is the craftiest or fastest one out there (according to his profile). He seems like a Knick on Defense (sarcasm intended) and not sure he has the tools to ever excel there. I'm a bit worried here, with the D lack. If we could get a shooting guard who is not quite as deadly as this Almond but who is more well rounded, I think that's a better long term player. If they feel he can eventually play some D, he is worth the gamble.
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4/21/2007  5:33 PM
I'm dying to see some video of Almond. Anyone have any links?
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4/21/2007  6:06 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by EnySpree:

If almond is so good the knicks won't be able to draft him. The way you guys talk about him he is a sure fire lottery pick.

I can't wait till the yahoo draft vids come out.

He is an offensive machine, at least at the college level. Basically, 1/3 of his 28pt average is from the foul line. That is extremely impressive, considering he is the craftiest or fastest one out there (according to his profile). He seems like a Knick on Defense (sarcasm intended) and not sure he has the tools to ever excel there. I'm a bit worried here, with the D lack. If we could get a shooting guard who is not quite as deadly as this Almond but who is more well rounded, I think that's a better long term player. If they feel he can eventually play some D, he is worth the gamble.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Almonds went to this past years Pre draft camp, you can find it on Draft Express. He is 1/2 inch smaller then balkman and his arms are 2 inches smaller. He is a little bit faster, Jumps a little bit higher and is stronger then Balkman. I only say Balkman because that is a player we all have seen. Phsyically he has the tools to be any thing he wants to be. Offensively his touch could be as good as every sharp shooter in the NBA.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1348
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352
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4/21/2007  6:30 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by EnySpree:

If almond is so good the knicks won't be able to draft him. The way you guys talk about him he is a sure fire lottery pick.

I can't wait till the yahoo draft vids come out.

He is an offensive machine, at least at the college level. Basically, 1/3 of his 28pt average is from the foul line. That is extremely impressive, considering he is the craftiest or fastest one out there (according to his profile). He seems like a Knick on Defense (sarcasm intended) and not sure he has the tools to ever excel there. I'm a bit worried here, with the D lack. If we could get a shooting guard who is not quite as deadly as this Almond but who is more well rounded, I think that's a better long term player. If they feel he can eventually play some D, he is worth the gamble.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Almonds went to this past years Pre draft camp, you can find it on Draft Express. He is 1/2 inch smaller then balkman and his arms are 2 inches smaller. He is a little bit faster, Jumps a little bit higher and is stronger then Balkman. I only say Balkman because that is a player we all have seen. Phsyically he has the tools to be any thing he wants to be. Offensively his touch could be as good as every sharp shooter in the NBA.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1348
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352

The bottom line is he can shoot it and has the physical abilities to play effective D with very good size from the 2 guard. He's also very smart[was recruited by Yale] high character --I mean I think he is something between H2O and Mike Redd.
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4/21/2007  6:30 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by EnySpree:

If almond is so good the knicks won't be able to draft him. The way you guys talk about him he is a sure fire lottery pick.

I can't wait till the yahoo draft vids come out.

He is an offensive machine, at least at the college level. Basically, 1/3 of his 28pt average is from the foul line. That is extremely impressive, considering he is the craftiest or fastest one out there (according to his profile). He seems like a Knick on Defense (sarcasm intended) and not sure he has the tools to ever excel there. I'm a bit worried here, with the D lack. If we could get a shooting guard who is not quite as deadly as this Almond but who is more well rounded, I think that's a better long term player. If they feel he can eventually play some D, he is worth the gamble.

You don't know what you are talking about.
From article:
Almonds went to this past years Pre draft camp, you can find it on Draft Express. He is 1/2 inch smaller then balkman and his arms are 2 inches smaller. He is a little bit faster, Jumps a little bit higher and is stronger then Balkman. I only say Balkman because that is a player we all have seen. Phsyically he has the tools to be any thing he wants to be. Offensively his touch could be as good as every sharp shooter in the NBA.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1348
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1352

It wasn't my opinion, got it from here:
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1026

Defensively, Almond always seemed to be a step late throughout the game. He did not exert the world’s best effort on the defensive end, resulting him to get burned quite a few times when attempting to go through screens. His rotations were quite poor, as he was always getting to the necessary spot about a half second later then he should have. There were a few brief spurts in which Morris played adequate defense, but overall it was an incredibly poor defensive showing for a player who possesses such excellent length and strength for a wing.


I hope your article is correct. I've never seen him play so don't have a clue.
Anyone here see him play D?

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4/21/2007  7:28 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

What I like about Splitter to is that he has been on the radar for a long time now. He isn't one of those mystery europeans. And he has consistantly been doing his thing in europe all these yrs.
Attitude, maturity, intelligence and character are key factors when discussing Splitter’s skills and potential. Whenever other players produce doubts and questions about their real desire and ability to fulfill their potential, the Brazilian transmits confidence in a successful development that already has taken him quite far. Splitter is a hard worker that still puts great effort on improving his weaknesses beyond the team practices.

Having the length, quickness, attitude and already some decent strength, just a bit of understanding of the game is required to produce a good defender; and Splitter is oozing with it. The Brazilian shows excellent decision making on defense. He enjoys remarkable lateral quickness, understands defensive angles extremely well and is highly efficient in his movements. If the defensive rotation calls for it, he can switch his matchup onto a wing player and still manage to contain the rival. He also enjoys excellent timing in pick and roll plays, stepping out to slow down the ball-handler and recovering his matchup quite fast.

Splitter never avoids contact in the low post, being able to hold his ground against the physicality of stronger players (up to a certain point). He does a great job of keeping his hands in the air and not reaching down for ticky-tack fouls (although he doesn’t get much respect from the referees, often being called for very questionable fouls due to his age). He also shows good positioning on weak-side defense, nicely executing rotations or quickly going for the block if the proper situation arises, again with nice timing.

This guy just sold me. He seems like the type of player that could take charge and lead our whole defense. I'm wondering if we could move Frye for him or Frye for a shooter and take draft him.

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4/21/2007  8:15 PM
Here is Morris Almond video in HS. Just add 20 pounds of muscle and 4 years of skill and major college basketball training

http://homepage.mac.com/digitalhoops/Pages/Morris_Almond.html
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4/21/2007  8:20 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Here is Morris Almond video in HS. Just add 20 pounds of muscle and 4 years of skill and major college basketball training

http://homepage.mac.com/digitalhoops/Pages/Morris_Almond.html

He's got the new H2O written all over him.
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4/21/2007  8:56 PM
I've see him play this year and to me he looks like a small Forward. I would take Spiltter, but I don't know if he would come over if all he has is the 23rd pick saying they want him.

[Edited by - anji on 04-21-2007 8:58 PM]
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4/21/2007  11:39 PM
This thread started out good, but than no more pics of nice asses. I say we only draft Splitter if he brings a new set of cheerleaders from Brazil with him, and they have to perform in thongs.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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4/22/2007  3:24 PM
Posted by simrud:

This thread started out good, but than no more pics of nice asses. I say we only draft Splitter if he brings a new set of cheerleaders from Brazil with him, and they have to perform in thongs.

LMAO ! It seems that you'd rather see the Knicks make the payoffs and not PLAYoffs
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4/23/2007  1:23 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Here is Morris Almond video in HS. Just add 20 pounds of muscle and 4 years of skill and major college basketball training

http://homepage.mac.com/digitalhoops/Pages/Morris_Almond.html

He's got the new H2O written all over him.

Absolutely Briggs. Thanks for the link. I've seen this video before (any video of him at Rice floating around besides that one clip on You Tube by any chance?). He looks real good though. Effortless shooting mechanics, very similar to Allan's. Only difference is this kid might actually go to the glass more and play better defense than Houston. But very similar build, height and game. This is definitely my guy. We've got to find a way to get this kid and also acquire an additional pick and go after Sean Williams for interior defense (and I'm all for dangling Frye and Nate to do that). Almond and Williams to go with a healthy Lee, Crawford, Steph, Richardson and Curry AND an emerging Collins and Balkman - suddenly we look really balanced. That wouldn't be a bad rotation, I'm telling ya!
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