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Solace
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Posted by kam77:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by nixluva:
It amazes me how easy it's been for some of us to keep missing the point of what was happening this season. Forget the win total! That was NEVER really going to be the whole story this year. Let's suppose that isiah had decided that he wanted to win by letting Steph, Jamal and Francis just go crazy scoring the ball? Suppose that Curry and Lee never really got a chance to shine this year and we focused on the guards and won more games early. Maybe this team won more games but it was at the expense of developing the other key players that will be here for the long haul? The record may have looked better but the season wouldn't have meant as much.
The thing is that this team took a SOLID set of steps this year. Why it's so easy for some of us to just write that off is a mystery to me. The point is that we could see the team was beginning to come together and that some of the young players we have showed much progress. In fact they showed that we have a lot to look forward to as this team moves forward.
Do these players have a lot more to do? HECK YEAH! Does Isiah have a lot more to do? HECK YEAH? Still we saw Curry and Lee make an impact this year. Balkman and Collins proved that they can have an impact for this team. Steph showed that he can be a leader for this team going forward. The TEAM stayed together and kept fighting. This is not the end of the story. It's just the beginning. It was NEVER really just about this year, no matter how many games we won. If we didn't start to build a meaningful path for this teams future it would mean nothing. WE DID set the path that this team can move forward with. It was a disappointing end, but some things DID get accomplished. That's all Steph is saying. Nix, it comes down to this: you and maybe 25-40% of the board feel he set the path. 30-50% of the board feels he didn't. The rest are uncertain. I fall into the group that feels he didn't. I, for one, think the two WORST things for Eddy Curry were getting Eddy thinking he's a star when he does ONE thing well and is awful at almost everything else.... and have him satisfied with that and, two, having Stephon Marbury as a rolemodel. TERRIBLE. The consensus is that our future is based on the success of Curry, Lee and Balkman. Yet, we have major concerns about Lee, some concern about Balkman, and Curry does EVERYTHING wrong because he doesn't have basketball FUNDAMENTALS down. That's not a justice towards our team or our future. It's an injustice and it's going to cost us. You're right about the win total, except, of course, you and many of the lovers picked more wins than we got. Putting that aside, no the win total is really irrelevant. What's more relevant is how many times we got blown out (a lot), how many times we made excuses (a lot), how many times we started the game completely flat (a lot), and how many times we collapsed in the fourth quarter after making a great comeback (a lot). There's been a lot of talk about the teamwork and cohesion, and yet, I don't know if we've seen a season with so much finger pointing. There's a lot of negative things that need to stop and go away... and those things are a reflection of the coach and our supposed "leader", Cancerbury. Change these things and you change the team... and the fans start to agree. These things are too big to ignore, sorry. Read Dale Carnegie's "How to win friends and influence people" to get a handle on Isiahs' Management style.
Fundamental Techniques in Handling People
1. Don't criticize, condemn or complain. 2. Give honest and sincere appreciation. 3. Arouse in the other person an eager want.
Part Two
Six ways to make people like you
1. Become genuinely interested in other people. 2. Smile. 3. Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language. 4. Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves. 5. Talk in terms of the other person's interests. 6. Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely.
Part Three
Win people to your way of thinking
1. The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it. 2. Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong." 3. If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically. 4. Begin in a friendly way. 5. Get the other person saying "yes, yes" immediately. 6. Let the other person do a great deal of the talking. 7. Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers. 8. Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view. 9. Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires. 10. Appeal to the nobler motives. 11. Dramatize your ideas. 12. Throw down a challenge.
Part Four
Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment
A leader's job often includes changing your people's attitudes and behavior. Some suggestions to accomplish this:
1. Begin with praise and honest appreciation. 2. Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly. 3. Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person. 4. Ask questions instead of giving direct orders. 5. Let the other person save face. 6. Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be "hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise." 7. Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to. 8. Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct. 9. Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest. I've read that book as well as the 48 Rules of Power. These things are powerful when done right and also lead to your downfall when people don't buy into it. He's fooled the owner, the team and some of the fans... but sooner or later, he has to produce results or people stop buying into it. Also, it's not about making friends. The team likes him, but even with almost every factor in his factor and unprecedented support from Knicks management (including himself), the team only wins 32 games. Pretty poor.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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