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nyk4ever
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4/11/2007  1:59 PM
You know you are bad when you accuse the oppositions BACKUPS of running up the score. The Knicks are an absolute pathetic and sorry state, thanks to James Dolan and Isiah Thomas. I'm so sick of the constant circus act that surrounds this team. It's just absolutely beyond pathetic.
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4/11/2007  3:39 PM
Hamburgers make the Knicks mad
Wednesday, April 11, 2007
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The Bulls pounded the Knicks 98-69 last night, strengthening their hold on the second seed in the Eastern Conference playoff race and helping to ensure that New York will remain a lottery team (which is important since the Bulls get to swap draft picks with the Knicks as part of Eddy Curry trade). The Knicks, of course, got all pissy after the game, but not because their pride was hurt by the 29-point loss, the near-destruction of their waning playoff hopes, the probable loss of their lottery pick, or the fact that they just flat-out suck. They were upset that the Bulls were trying to feed their fans.

Like many teams, the Bulls run countless promotions, using sexy cheerleaders, hilarious fat guys, and dancing old people to shill t-shirts, drink cups, bobbleheads, and even Chicago Bulls-themed drinking water. One of their many game-night promotions is free food any time the team reaches 100 points (redeemed by presenting the game ticket). Sometimes it's a burrito from Taco Bell, sometimes it's a personal pizza from Pizza Hut. Last night, fans would have recieved a free McDonald's Big Mac (with a side of clogged artery) if the Bulls reached the century mark.

Mind you, the Bulls scored their 98th point with almost two minutes left in the game. They then took four more shots, one of which was a tip-in attempt of a missed shot. Considering the fact that there's a 24-second shot clock, basic math tells me that they probably would have put up three or four shots even if the additional two points wouldn't have rewarded their fanbase with a delightfully fat-filled mega-sandwich. But of course the Knicks felt that the Bulls were trying to run up the score, which, naturally, showed a lack of respect.

Steve Francis, a model citizen who had decided to pull the plug on the season until an injury to a teammate ensured him more playing time, was one of a group of Knicks shouting at the Bulls on the way to the team locker rooms. Said Francis: "I've been in the league long enough; I know when teams are trying to run up the score. I don't respect nobody trying to do that to my younger players."

Jerome James, who in the summer of 2005 signed a 5-year, $29-million contract with the Knicks and then promptly began to suck, was one of the aggrieved parties and actually had to be restrained by teammates. James apparently was going after the Bulls' Tyrus Thomas, who aggressively defended a Nate Robinson layup attempt in the closing seconds. When asked about it after the game, James pulled out the Kobe Bryant "I don't know this kid" defense. Said James: "Oh, the little jumpy kid? No, I don't even know him." What? You didn't know James played for the Knicks? Well, it's true. Go check the box score. He's the guy near the bottom with the "DNP - Coach's Decision" next to his name.

For the record, Nate Robinson, who's involvement in the infamous Knicks-Nuggets Brawl is well-documented, also participated in the verbal sparring. That fight, by the way, erupted because the Nuggets were still playing some of their starters while ahead 19 points with a couple minutes to go. And, like last night, the Knicks played the Lack Of Respect card as a means of justifying their behavior.

But honestly, what should the Bulls have done? Stopped shooting and just let the shot clock expire? They weren't playing their starters. The Bulls' reserves were in the game, and reserves don't get a chance to play all that often. Can you really blame them for taking shots? Especially when your fans are cheering you on? You'll also notice that the Knicks were still trying to score right down to the wire. But I guess that's okay when you're down 30, and wrong when you're up 30. I guess the Bulls didn't get that memo.

The bottom line is this: the real problem is that the Knicks suck. So my message to the Knicks is that, if you don't like getting blown out by 20 or 30 points every night, just stop sucking. Until then, take your beating like the group of fat, lazy, malcontent men that you are.
djsunyc
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4/11/2007  5:00 PM
from isola's blog
Even NBA Commissioner David Stern weighed in on the controversy, saying during a conference call: “It’s a technique teams use and everybody understands it. It’s been around for about 20 years. It used to be about the fries; now it’s about the whole Mac. I’m not going to have an opinion about it, other to say it’s here and there are no rules against it. Our players shouldn’t complain about it.

It’s hard to make a case that the Bulls were running up the score when they only outscored the Knicks 20-19 in the 4th quarter. If anything, the one time the Bulls were running up the score was in the first half as they were building a 45-27 lead.

Of course, the Knicks could have done something about it. It’s called defense.
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4/11/2007  5:06 PM
What? You didn't know James played for the Knicks? Well, it's true. Go check the box score. He's the guy near the bottom with the "DNP - Coach's Decision" next to his name.
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islesfan
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4/11/2007  5:08 PM
Nate seemed to be one of the Knicks who took the most offense. If he were on the other side, does anybody doubt that he'd be pandering to the crowd and doing whatever he could to get those 2 points?
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Bippity10
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4/11/2007  5:21 PM
I'm so sick of the whining and crying. We play them what 4, 5, 6 times next year? If you don't like it, get them back on teh court. Stop the crying.
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islesfan
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4/11/2007  5:41 PM
The national media is ridiculing the Knicks for crying about the Bulls going for the Big Macs.

They're just as pathetic as they were last year but nobody can say that anybody tanked this or that like they did last year. This year everybody was happy but in the end they just suck.

I think last nights game was deserving of at least another year added to Isiah's extension.
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djsunyc
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4/11/2007  5:53 PM
has there ever been a knicks gm that polarized it's fanbase like this one?

1/2 the knicks fans "hate"
1/2 the knicks fans "like where we're headed"

and then there's marv who's propped up facing the tv just watching colors moving around while eating tapioca pudding.
Bippity10
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4/11/2007  6:08 PM
ummmmmmm, Pudding
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BlueSeats
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4/11/2007  9:12 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

has there ever been a knicks gm that polarized it's fanbase like this one?

1/2 the knicks fans "hate"
1/2 the knicks fans "like where we're headed"

and then there's marv who's propped up facing the tv just watching colors moving around while eating tapioca pudding.



I have a feeling the fans of most young, sub-mediocre teams feel the same way as us. Making assumptions like "if player-x can only develop a jumper; learn to play d; lose 20 pounds; realize what a beast he could be; would just train hard in the summer; stop settling for jumpers; stop playing selfishly; will return 100% from surgery; and if we can find a leader in the draft... then all we'll need are another 2 or 3 pieces to be good" probably serves the fans of all teams as well as our own.

I wanna be like Marv.
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4/12/2007  12:07 AM
Posted by islesfan:

The national media is ridiculing the Knicks for crying about the Bulls going for the Big Macs.

They're just as pathetic as they were last year but nobody can say that anybody tanked this or that like they did last year. This year everybody was happy but in the end they just suck.

I think last nights game was deserving of at least another year added to Isiah's extension.

I caught 10 minutes of the Jim Rome show on my way into work. He absolutely toasted the Knicks. My favorite line of the rant?

"You're the New York Freaking Knicks. This is an embarresement."
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bitty41
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4/12/2007  9:16 PM
This is exactly what I mean when people say that there's been progress. If this team is so much about forgetting about the failures in the past and looking towards a promising future why is that they are continuously quick to point fingers at opposing coaches who they claim or running up the score. But my personal favorite is that the Knicks would have you believe they would be a 1 seed if Jamal Crawford, Lee, and Richardson had gotten hurt. This team wasn't even .500 when everyone was healthy.
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4/12/2007  9:47 PM
Bitty - you said you would start postin and you wasn't lying. I think all of your 150 posts have been since the get together.
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4/12/2007  10:24 PM
Eny I got caught up in the Imus thread I think contributed like 5 pages by myself lol.
Can anyone remember a season with more fingerpointing?

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