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Solace
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4/8/2007  12:29 AM
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4/8/2007  1:03 AM
That's great timing man! Funny stuff!
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4/8/2007  1:17 AM
Posted by bitty41:

After tonight's performance I am convinced Eddy Curry will be better than Patrick Ewing.

After reading tonight's post... I can't even finish this without sounding like a huge *******. How dare you compare Patrick to Curry.
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4/8/2007  1:20 AM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by bitty41:

After tonight's performance I am convinced Eddy Curry will be better than Patrick Ewing.

After reading tonight's post... I can't even finish this without sounding like a huge *******. How dare you compare Patrick to Curry.

It's an insult to Eddy, right?
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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4/8/2007  1:25 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by bitty41:

After tonight's performance I am convinced Eddy Curry will be better than Patrick Ewing.

After reading tonight's post... I can't even finish this without sounding like a huge *******. How dare you compare Patrick to Curry.

It's an insult to Eddy, right?

Absolutely. Patrick couldn't win in New York whereas Curry is a career winner. In fact because he's the biggest winner in NY, I heard the Carnegie Deli is naming a quadruple bacon cheeseburger after him.
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4/8/2007  1:32 AM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by bitty41:

After tonight's performance I am convinced Eddy Curry will be better than Patrick Ewing.

After reading tonight's post... I can't even finish this without sounding like a huge *******. How dare you compare Patrick to Curry.

It's an insult to Eddy, right?

Absolutely. Patrick couldn't win in New York whereas Curry is a career winner. In fact because he's the biggest winner in NY, I heard the Carnegie Deli is naming a quadruple bacon cheeseburger after him.

I'll never trust this' team again.
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4/8/2007  2:09 AM
Curry's good. Curry's great. Curry can put down windmill dunks over Michael Jordan _and_ Patrick Ewing. But he's no World B. Free.
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4/8/2007  3:18 AM
Curry is somewhere between Ilgauskus and Shaq/Dwight.


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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4/8/2007  4:38 AM
Only Yao can stop Curry one on one. Dwight can't.
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4/8/2007  7:10 AM
I wish I saw that game. I did see a replay of his 3 to send it into overtime. What a clutch shot and what a monster offensive game. He even got 13 boards. Hey, maybe Isaiah was right about his being able to add the short outside shot next season.
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4/8/2007  7:56 AM
This is a very effective preemptive attack on anyone wanting to give Eddy credit for having a career night. Let me ask you guys something, did he not prove he is an offensive juggernaut? He is the 2nd best offensive center in the league and the 43 showed that. If he can improve on defense next season, why not keep him? I don't remember a single person on this forum going overboard with Eddy and Patrick Ewing comparisons.
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4/8/2007  8:31 AM
I don't know about 2nd best offensive center in the league. I assume you're not counting turnovers and missed free throws and not counting all the 6'10"/7' PFs who are really centers but are versatile enough unlike Eddy to play PF so that the team can get another 7 footer on the court (Bosh, JO, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Amare, Gasol)
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4/8/2007  9:29 AM
If they play PF they aren't C's. And I hear you bonn. Its just that anything good eddy does on offense is totally ignored because he has not shown much improvement on defense this year. I think he has improved enough on offense to give him sometime to prove he will improve on defense. I gotta tell you though, I am starting to lose patience with him. I'm a huge Eddy Curry fan but even I cannot wait much longer.
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4/8/2007  10:25 AM
Curry could be better than Patrick on the offensive end.

Patrick really had his drive into the lane & a really great J- but he never shot 60% from the field, and he never had the kind of true, back to the basket post moves that curry has.

If curry cuts down on his turnovers, learns how to pass out of the double team and begins to hit guys for assists, and can improve his FTs and develop a solid mid range J & face up game-

and there's a lot of ifs- I think you can say that curry would be better on the offense than Ewing.

But he'll never, without some kind of hormone treatment, be the rebounder or defensive presence that patrick was.

Patrick put up clutch 20/20s- the only 20/20 curry is going to put up is 20 points and 20 turnovers.
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4/8/2007  11:07 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

If they play PF they aren't C's. And I hear you bonn. Its just that anything good eddy does on offense is totally ignored because he has not shown much improvement on defense this year. I think he has improved enough on offense to give him sometime to prove he will improve on defense. I gotta tell you though, I am starting to lose patience with him. I'm a huge Eddy Curry fan but even I cannot wait much longer.

Yeah, I'd like to have the same optimism you have. But I guess we differ on how much we think he's improved on offense. To me, his best season on offense was still his contract year in Chicago. He was great and played within the flow of the team's offense (a near 50 win team). The 3 extra points in 7 extra min really don't impress me this year. It looks like he's just saving his energy on defense so he can score more points on offense.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-08-2007 11:08 AM]
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4/8/2007  11:21 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Silverfuel:

If they play PF they aren't C's. And I hear you bonn. Its just that anything good eddy does on offense is totally ignored because he has not shown much improvement on defense this year. I think he has improved enough on offense to give him sometime to prove he will improve on defense. I gotta tell you though, I am starting to lose patience with him. I'm a huge Eddy Curry fan but even I cannot wait much longer.

Yeah, I'd like to have the same optimism you have. But I guess we differ on how much we think he's improved on offense. To me, his best season on offense was still his contract year in Chicago. He was great and played within the flow of the team's offense (a near 50 win team). The 3 extra points in 7 extra min really don't impress me this year. It looks like he's just saving his energy on defense so he can score more points on offense.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-08-2007 11:08 AM]


Chi (contract yr) 16pts, 5.4rbs, 0.9 blks, 54% fgs, 28 minspg

NY (this yr) 19.5 pts, 7.1 rbs, 0.5blks, 58% fgs, 35minspg

Explain to me how this yr isn't better than the yr he had in Chi. He's much more polished offensively, has shown much more stamina to finish games, doesn't foul as much, is the focal point of this offensive and is putting up more shots at a better fg%. His rebounds are up and he even has his number called at the end of games here whereas in Chi, more times then not, he was hardly on the floor down the stretch of games.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 04-08-2007 12:23 PM]
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4/8/2007  11:40 AM
Posted by bigbeast:

Chi (contract yr) 16pts, 5.4rbs, 0.9 blks, 54% fgs, 28 minspg

NY (this yr) 19.5 pts, 7.1 mins, 0.5blks, 58% fgs, 35minspg

Explain to me how this yr isn't better than the yr he had in Chi. He's much more polished offensively, has shown much more stamina to finish games, doesn't foul as much, is the focal point of this offensive and is putting up more shots at a better fg%. His rebounds are up and he even has his number called at the end of games here whereas in Chi, more times then not, he was hardly on the floor down the stretch of games.

I think Bonn did just explain to why you he thinks Curry had a better year that year and I agree. While Curry's offensive numbers are great, his Points Per Minute rate is barely up from his contract year, he has a worse Rebound per Minute rate and a much worse shotblock per Minute rate. Which gives creedance to the argument that Curry is just playing more minutes(which is a good thing, I'm glad to see his stamina has improved) but he's not doing more with those extra minutes, he's actually doing less. I think these facts are alarming and I don't agree with this sentiment that it's a forgone conclusion that Eddy's defense is going to improve next year, I see no reason as to why it's going to improve, he has shown nothing to make anyone think it will. He just could care less about playing defense, let alone some help defense.

Now if Isiah can find a way to surround Eddy with guys that can totally hide these flaws then he might be onto something, but I think that is a VERY hard way to try and build a championship caliber team.


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 04-08-2007 11:41 AM]
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4/8/2007  1:11 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

This is a very effective preemptive attack on anyone wanting to give Eddy credit for having a career night. Let me ask you guys something, did he not prove he is an offensive juggernaut? He is the 2nd best offensive center in the league and the 43 showed that. If he can improve on defense next season, why not keep him? I don't remember a single person on this forum going overboard with Eddy and Patrick Ewing comparisons.

They embarrass themselves.
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4/8/2007  1:14 PM
Posted by Rich:


They embarrass themselves.

Sorry some people differ from your opinion Rich, everyone who disagrees with you must be a total incompetent jackass.
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4/8/2007  1:38 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by bigbeast:

Chi (contract yr) 16pts, 5.4rbs, 0.9 blks, 54% fgs, 28 minspg

NY (this yr) 19.5 pts, 7.1 mins, 0.5blks, 58% fgs, 35minspg

Explain to me how this yr isn't better than the yr he had in Chi. He's much more polished offensively, has shown much more stamina to finish games, doesn't foul as much, is the focal point of this offensive and is putting up more shots at a better fg%. His rebounds are up and he even has his number called at the end of games here whereas in Chi, more times then not, he was hardly on the floor down the stretch of games.

I think Bonn did just explain to why you he thinks Curry had a better year that year and I agree. While Curry's offensive numbers are great, his Points Per Minute rate is barely up from his contract year, he has a worse Rebound per Minute rate and a much worse shotblock per Minute rate. Which gives creedance to the argument that Curry is just playing more minutes(which is a good thing, I'm glad to see his stamina has improved) but he's not doing more with those extra minutes, he's actually doing less. I think these facts are alarming and I don't agree with this sentiment that it's a forgone conclusion that Eddy's defense is going to improve next year, I see no reason as to why it's going to improve, he has shown nothing to make anyone think it will. He just could care less about playing defense, let alone some help defense.

Now if Isiah can find a way to surround Eddy with guys that can totally hide these flaws then he might be onto something, but I think that is a VERY hard way to try and build a championship caliber team.


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 04-08-2007 11:41 AM]

Curry's having the worst year of his career defensively. I don't understand why we're supposed to be optimistic about his defense.
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