Posted by Swishfm3:

yes.

and then I'll draft Tyler Hansbrough who, I believe, is the 3rd best prospect coming out this year behind Oden and Brewer

Tyler - you're joking, right?

Posted by islesfan:

Yes, assuming Brewer or Hibbert is going 3.

Horford will be a much better player than Lee.

exactly. Horford is who we need. He's Karl Malone part 2.

Posted by playa2:

What if Lee comes back good as new and develops a jumper ?

he'd still suck at D and have no offensive moves other than dunks.

Posted by Marv:

no. you got a guy picking off 11 boards a game in his 2nd year in the league? coming off the bench? who could easily tack on 6 more ppg to his scoring just by being a little more selfish? even without "developing a jumper?" and who doesn't need plays called for him, or to dominate the ball or to clog the paint? and can get out and run anytime the team wants to?no I wouldn't.

Marv, Lee's defense sucks. He has no handle. He seriously also doesn't have any "offense" other than sticking putbacks and dunks. He rebounds exceptionally well, but is a sieve on D and O.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by Swishfm3:

yes.

and then I'll draft Tyler Hansbrough who, I believe, is the 3rd best prospect coming out this year behind Oden and Brewer

Tyler - you're joking, right?

nope. If he enters the draft, I believe Tyler is going to be a fine NBA player.

Hortford
Oden
Durant
Brewer
Tyler are my top 5.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by playa2:

What if Lee comes back good as new and develops a jumper ?

he'd still suck at D and have no offensive moves other than dunks.

I said if he comes back next yr with a JUMPSHOT, along with his knack down low with putback dunks.

David Lee isn't untradable. But which of these underclassmen are actually delcaring? I would take Horford over Lee at PF, and I love Brewer and Green, but it would hurt to take such a big step backward at 4 to step up at the 3. Lee's great passing cannot be dismissed.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by Marv:

no. you got a guy picking off 11 boards a game in his 2nd year in the league? coming off the bench? who could easily tack on 6 more ppg to his scoring just by being a little more selfish? even without "developing a jumper?" and who doesn't need plays called for him, or to dominate the ball or to clog the paint? and can get out and run anytime the team wants to?no I wouldn't.

Marv, Lee's defense sucks. He has no handle. He seriously also doesn't have any "offense" other than sticking putbacks and dunks. He rebounds exceptionally well, but is a sieve on D and O.

whoa, i think you're being way too harsh on him. i think his problem on o is a lack of assertiveness. guy's got the 3rd hihgest fg% in the league, and it's because he's way too shy about trying to score. i don't think he's an offensive stiff. i think he could easily average 17 a game next year with more of an intent.

the rebounding is crucial. especially if we're gonna go with eddy at center.

the d, you're right, needs a lot of work.

but let's look at who'd we take at 4. horford? i like the guy a lot. where does his game translate in tje pros? center? power forward? an al jefferson-like mixture? does he need to operate down low where eddy camps out? do you think he's putting up 11 and 11 his 2nd year, with 60% fg and 80% ft and 2 apg? al's a big guy, but he and lee are listed at the same height and weight

i think lee is a guy who can be an importnat piece of a high-caliber team. horford is too, and if i were starting a team i'd prefer horford. but looking at the knicks's situation, i'd rather keep riding the development of lee.

Posted by kam77:

i think he could easily average 17 a game next year with more of an intent.

And watch his FG% dip to 40 something in the process? Why? He's not a gifted scorer.

that's 6 points more a game. 2 fg's and 2 ft's. you don't see him passing up that many every game that he could easily be taking?

Don't turn Dlee into a jumpshooter. We need him to be a garbage man around the bucket. EVERYONE, we've seen his ceiling. He'll get you 11pts 10rebs. Thats all - be happy with that.

From what I remember (I'm not going to lie, I have not really watched the last 10-15 games) Lee has shown the ability to knock down the open corder 15 foot jumper. He has trouble shooting the 15 footer from to the top of the key, but if he can knock down the corner jumper, I think he could improve the straight away too.

The way he plays, he just has keep the defense ohnest and knock down the open 15 footer. Once he is able to do that, offensively, he is an above average starter, especially next to a center with lowpost game, like Curry.

However, if he does not improve his post defense significantly, and does not provide some shotbocking from the 4, he can only be used as a 6th man, but a damn good one at that.

So with Lee we have a solid 6th man, 3rd big in a rotation of 3 upfront type of frontcourt player at the worst, or an above average starting PF at his best.

Do we trade that away? Depends on what we are getting back. If we are getting back a guy with legitimate all around star potential, and I mean a 2 way star player who brings both offense and defense to the table, than, yes, we have to consider the possibility.