i think Marcus has a much higher upside than Mardy (purely based on the things that have been written about him, not on what i've seen from him at the NBA level), but i think Mardy's game fits our needs well right now... we need a bigger, physical defensive minded G who plays a good fundamental game... if he ever develops a perimeter jumper, he could be a valuable piece of our future

I tell you what. Williams & Collins would have been a great 1-2 punch if they were both on the same team at PG. Williams would be the style, Collins would be the substance.

If we didn't have Marbury, Crawford, Francis & Nate and were going into last yrs draft looking to snatch up 2 pgs. We would have came off lovely with that combo.

The thing about Williams though is that you could find a PG like him in every draft every yr. And you can find them late in the rds to. After Marbury, Francis are off the books, and Nate is possible traded or even Crawford. I doubt it would be impossible to find a PG like Williams in future drafts to team up with Collins. As a matter of fact Crawford & Collins kind of fit each other if we end up keeping Crawford. Add a big solid SG and we could have a lot of size at the guard postition down the road.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

I tell you what. Williams & Collins would have been a great 1-2 punch if they were both on the same team at PG. Williams would be the style, Collins would be the substance.

If we didn't have Marbury, Crawford, Francis & Nate and were going into last yrs draft looking to snatch up 2 pgs. We would have came off lovely with that combo.

The thing about Williams though is that you could find a PG like him in every draft every yr. And you can find them late in the rds to. After Marbury, Francis are off the books, and Nate is possible traded or even Crawford. I doubt it would be impossible to find a PG like Williams in future drafts to team up with Collins. As a matter of fact Crawford & Collins kind of fit each other if we end up keeping Crawford. Add a big solid SG and we could have a lot of size at the guard postition down the road.

i'd love to see a Crawford & Collins backcourt personally

I would love to see a Crawford/Nate/Frye trade for Warrick/Johnson/Lowry and future number 1

I am not talking about the draft. I'm talking about the players guy. If Marcus is a 30 minute a game player, and say Mardy plays the backup 18 plus a few minutes at backup SG, what's so bad about that? This is called building a basketball team. If you drafted Williams, and there's a shotblocker, but he sucks at everything else with a poor work ethic, along with Collins, who do you go with? I'd take Collins and be patient in finding a shotblocker later on. I'm sure based on todays needs, though, Isiah would have taken the crappy shotblocker.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Too early to tell. I still say Mardy is a nice backup, ala Charlie Ward. Marcus has a far greater upside with better talent. I think NYNY is right. The 2 would have gone well together.

I think overall, this board is going just a little too crazy over Mardy though. You'd think he's a star in the making, based on some of the things people say here. I guess we all have a little mustafaaab in us though.

i don't think Mardy will ever be a star, but he can be a solid pro just like Eric Snow... we don't need that many star players on this team, just guys who know what they're doing & know where to get the ball in game situations... Mardy demonstrates a good understanding of that... him & Jamal in the backcourt means you have 2 guys on the floor who know how to get the ball inside to Curry w/consistency... that means you have Curry a lot more focused during games & battling harder to gain position downlow because he knows his effort isn't going to be wasted by watching Marbury, Francis or Nate dribble a couple times looking to dump it down to him & then give up & swing it back the other way because they have no idea how to make a low post entry pass.

i'd take Jax or Strick over Marcus Williams everytime (if they were about the same age obviously)

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Too early to tell. I still say Mardy is a nice backup, ala Charlie Ward. Marcus has a far greater upside with better talent. I think NYNY is right. The 2 would have gone well together.

I think overall, this board is going just a little too crazy over Mardy though. You'd think he's a star in the making, based on some of the things people say here. I guess we all have a little mustafaaab in us though.

i don't think Mardy will ever be a star, but he can be a solid pro just like Eric Snow... we don't need that many star players on this team, just guys who know what they're doing & know where to get the ball in game situations... Mardy demonstrates a good understanding of that... him & Jamal in the backcourt means you have 2 guys on the floor who know how to get the ball inside to Curry w/consistency... that means you have Curry a lot more focused during games & battling harder to gain position downlow because he knows his effort isn't going to be wasted by watching Marbury, Francis or Nate dribble a couple times looking to dump it down to him & then give up & swing it back the other way because they have no idea how to make a low post entry pass.

TMS, Crawford and consistent don't belong in the same sentence. I like the guy too, but in the games I watched, which are most of them, he did get a lot of assists to Curry, but messed up just as many times, trying to feed Curry. Again, I like him, but he's a super erratic player and hasn't shown any signs of improving that unless he's playing for Larry Brown.