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I Think its Time..... All those who "hate" Marbury and says he doesn't try.....MAN UP!!!
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holfresh
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3/31/2007  2:51 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by holfresh:


Is it really so hard to applaud the good effort Marbs has given for a good part of the season...The guy single handed kept the Knicks (your favorite team?) in the game against the best team in basketball in a push to make the playoffs...All we can get from the haters is that he is not a winner...We have 4 key players out and Marbs is playing his best basketball injured and all we can get from you guys is that he is a loser...

Maybe if he gave a good effort for a good part of the season they wouldn't have to make a desperate push. But he didn't, like he hasn't for most of his career. Why? Because he's a loser.

From the games I saw( all of them), he gave a very good effort this season...He play injured, played stellar defense while trying to find the right formula to help the team win...While many players would have sat out at the hint of an injury, this guy pushed on to help his team get to the next level...And he is labeled a loser...The effort Marbury gave last night was that of a winner...Yeah the Knicks lost the game but he left everything on the court...This team played like winners last night and thats all you can ask for as a fan...If the Knicks played like this the entire season, the would have been well over .500...You guys are just reaching for the LOSER card because it worked so well last year...This year has been a different story...But why would you guys want be fair and admit that...

[Edited by - holfresh on 03-31-2007 2:52 PM]
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3/31/2007  2:56 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
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Posted by nykbasketball:

I'm talking about all the people who right now dont think he is trying...which couldnt be more wrong

Even though the fact remains that the Knicks are still not "winners"; with Marbury playing well; it's more than obvious that the haters are silent; because they can't have their usual field day on Marbury (with the posted pics and all that).


Maybe they're out enjoying a nice day with their families, he with all of 64 posts in 3 years.

Why do you think people who don't like Marbury should be "silent"? Those who don't like him haven't liked him in spite of many previous high scoring outings.

How did you like his 3:5 assist to turnover ratio?

But somehow there is testosterone in the air today because the Knicks got within 2 points of the Mavs. They now join the ranks of other "mighty" sub-.500 teams to do so, like: Minny, Memphis, Sacramento, Toronto, and Indy.

I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

So does my 65 post make me a weaker or lesser fan than you...oh mighty one? I've been associated with this site for years; just haven't posted to it because of computer problems that didn't allow me to log on.

Didn't know I should bow down to you since you know more about the Knicks than I do. I'd think you were in front of my handle on the gamepicker with your ultimate posting wisdom.

Any way...it's nice that a lot of the Marbury critics are showing up again in this thread. Of course they had to be drawn out of hiding...

BTW...

I don't cheer for Marbury for his scoring out put or his assist ratio (some of which has been affected by him trying to change his game to be more of what Brown & Isiah wanted out of him.

The game is more about scoring; just like the number of post doesn't mean you carry a big stick ! Get off your high horse and get over it.
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3/31/2007  5:57 PM
first of all, without Marbury, the knicks would lose most games by 20 pts or so, and defintley would have been blown out the last 10 games. You need someone else to help him. You had Mardy (no offense), Renaldo (no offense), Jeffries (no offense), and James out there at one point in the game. He is doing what he needs to do for his team to win...just other people have to step it up (nate, frye, curry).

second of all, there are 2 ways to win a basketball game, the first is to score more points then your opponent and the second is to hold your opponents to less points than you have. God knows the knicks cant play good defense consistently and that they are build to score. And with 3 out of 5 main scorers out, and still no defense, Marbury is doing what he has to do to make up for it. Someone look at marburys points since crawford went down (prob a increase), then lee (another increase), then Q (another increase). And the thing thats killing me is Eddy is no longer scoring 22+ a game.

so stop ripping on the man for trying to make his team win

[Edited by - nykbasketball on 03-31-2007 5:57 PM]
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3/31/2007  6:01 PM

Defenses are collapsing on Eddy, he needs to be a better passer...The Knicks don't have a consistent outside shooter so Eddy's game will suffer...
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3/31/2007  6:04 PM
Agreed about the passing. I wish the Knicks had a better plan on how to attack the double and triple teams. Not every possesion where Curry gets doubled needs to result in a 3pt attempt. Slashing to the basket, mid to close range jumpers. I think the guards are settling and need to be more patient. Eddy moving the ball more crisply can help that as well.
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3/31/2007  6:11 PM
Posted by nykbasketball:

You had Mardy (no offense), Renaldo (no offense), Jeffries (no offense), and James out there at one point in the game. He is doing what he needs to do for his team to win...just other people have to step it up (nate, frye, curry).


[Edited by - nykbasketball on 03-31-2007 5:57 PM]

Isiah's lineups have been a questionmark even back when he was coaching in Indy

Curry is the teams leading scorer and both Frye and Nate are capable of big games. Its enough offensive firepower to get things done even with Craw and Q out

as 4 last night: Nate took 10 shots last night and Frye took 4. Marbury took 30+

why such a disparity in shot distribution?



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3/31/2007  6:38 PM
There are many things Marbury critics have been dead on about with Marbury. And there are many things that Marbury critics overcritisize.

My biggest problem with Marbury is how overpaid he is. He won't ever win enough with us to earn that contract. But as long as he isn't fighting with teammates anymore and his trying his hardest on both ends of the floor then he can get back in most peoples good graces like Alan Houston.

To be fair this season doesn't mean the the critics were all wrong about Marbury in the past. But this season there isn't really TO much or AS much to critisize Marbury for than in the past.

He was getting critisized for making $15 dollar sneakers and selling them. I really was baffled by how he could be critisized for it other than thats how much hate he built up in fans after last season. Back in the day I was that poor that those $15 dollar starburys would have done wonders for me. So I could definatly appreciate the movement he is doing. To people that could afford the expensive shoes its not that big a deal. But to those that can't, which I can relate, to its huge for the kids and the parents.

I got a question though. Say Marbury had the green light to shoot the ball 25-30times like Iverson. And had a team full of players like Mardy Collins, David Lee, Balkmans type players. The way Iverson was able to shoot the ball 25-30times with Mckie, Ratliff, Snow, Lynch etc... Would Marbury have success like Iverson did that yr??
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4/1/2007  1:45 AM
Posted by NJK:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by NJK:
Posted by nykbasketball:

I'm talking about all the people who right now dont think he is trying...which couldnt be more wrong

Even though the fact remains that the Knicks are still not "winners"; with Marbury playing well; it's more than obvious that the haters are silent; because they can't have their usual field day on Marbury (with the posted pics and all that).


Maybe they're out enjoying a nice day with their families, he with all of 64 posts in 3 years.

Why do you think people who don't like Marbury should be "silent"? Those who don't like him haven't liked him in spite of many previous high scoring outings.

How did you like his 3:5 assist to turnover ratio?

But somehow there is testosterone in the air today because the Knicks got within 2 points of the Mavs. They now join the ranks of other "mighty" sub-.500 teams to do so, like: Minny, Memphis, Sacramento, Toronto, and Indy.

I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

So does my 65 post make me a weaker or lesser fan than you...oh mighty one? I've been associated with this site for years; just haven't posted to it because of computer problems that didn't allow me to log on.

Didn't know I should bow down to you since you know more about the Knicks than I do. I'd think you were in front of my handle on the gamepicker with your ultimate posting wisdom.

Any way...it's nice that a lot of the Marbury critics are showing up again in this thread. Of course they had to be drawn out of hiding...

BTW...

I don't cheer for Marbury for his scoring out put or his assist ratio (some of which has been affected by him trying to change his game to be more of what Brown & Isiah wanted out of him.

The game is more about scoring; just like the number of post doesn't mean you carry a big stick ! Get off your high horse and get over it.


Dude, the point went over your head. I wasn't equating post quantity to knowledge, or fanness, or any such thing; just pointing out the irony that a guy who, on average, only posts about once every 17 days, would posses such hubris as to call out people for not posting on any one given day.

So, playing your game: why haven't YOU posted yet after tonight's loss and Marbury's middling performance? Huh? Why not? Huh? Need to be drawn out of your hiding? Huh?

Baiting is annoying, isn't it?
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4/2/2007  9:50 AM
He should be commended for being a leader for 65 games, once in his entire career, the guy makes 20million a season i am not commending him, he played his heart out this year, but we are yet to win more than 33 games in his time here.
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4/2/2007  10:32 AM
Steph was always talented and has great abilities and skills.
He was always a good player. But he never was great.
Great player helping teams win in many ways - by scoring, defending, passing, encouraging the teammates, getting into the coach system, sacrificing his game if needed depending on opponent, help to grow young talents, etc.
He is severely overpaid and overhyped. And this is damaging his personality.
He is a clean example of the NBA failure to built greatness and replacing it with highlights and entertainment.
I guess this is what people buying so they are selling it and sold the Steph's soul in the process.
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4/2/2007  12:20 PM
what poster on this board has said Marbury isn't playing hard this season?
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