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misterearl
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3/31/2007  9:12 AM
enigma is a funny word.

Marbury is just a man whose flaws have been magnified to the point that some people are more enamored with seeing him fail than succeed

e"nig"ma indeed
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3/31/2007  9:23 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.


Marbury was the only reason we were in that game. He tried to will us to victory by himself and almost did. I am really happy with the way Marbury is playing. If we had Crawford, Q, and Lee, or at least 2 of these 3, we would be winning these games. It is hard to win when you are missing 3 of your best 6 players.
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3/31/2007  9:37 AM
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3/31/2007  9:38 AM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.


Marbury was the only reason we were in that game. He tried to will us to victory by himself and almost did. I am really happy with the way Marbury is playing. If we had Crawford, Q, and Lee, or at least 2 of these 3, we would be winning these games. It is hard to win when you are missing 3 of your best 6 players.

adding francis some would argue 4 of our top 6, atleast 4 of our top 7.
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3/31/2007  9:53 AM
Posted by babyKnicks:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.


Marbury was the only reason we were in that game. He tried to will us to victory by himself and almost did. I am really happy with the way Marbury is playing. If we had Crawford, Q, and Lee, or at least 2 of these 3, we would be winning these games. It is hard to win when you are missing 3 of your best 6 players.

adding francis some would argue 4 of our top 6, atleast 4 of our top 7.

I have come to believe that Francis's game is so undisciplined that his absence is more beneficial than his presence.
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3/31/2007  9:57 AM
Posted by misterearl:

enigma is a funny word.

Marbury is just a man whose flaws have been magnified to the point that some people are more enamored with seeing him fail than succeed

e"nig"ma indeed
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3/31/2007  11:43 AM
Only mistake Marbury made was not passing the ball to Curry more when he drew double teams. When Curry is in the post one on one we almost have 2 guaranteed points.

Other than that he was excellent. I thought I was watching Kobe play.
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3/31/2007  12:04 PM
Steph had a monster all-star performance last night.

One thing on that last drive if steph was thinking(like nash) he should have surveyed the floor and fed balkman after his drive for the open dunk on the other side of the rim.

Dallas wasn't gonna let him drive for the tying bucket.
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3/31/2007  12:53 PM
Posted by playa2:

Steph had a monster all-star performance last night.

One thing on that last drive if steph was thinking(like nash) he should have surveyed the floor and fed balkman after his drive for the open dunk on the other side of the rim.

Dallas wasn't gonna let him drive for the tying bucket.


This is one of Marbury's main weaknesses. He is not great at passing in traffic. He can do it sometimes, but usually he either decides he is going to pass early or he goes all the way to the hole. He has only a limited ability to read the defense and pass in traffic after starting his drive.
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3/31/2007  1:26 PM
The thing is that Steph has been a much more team oriented player this year and I think it's unfair to just say that this is an example of him somehow being unable to get teams to win. Whenever he's had some help his teams actually did much better. It's not like he's ever been on a team like Dallas is right now. Even the great Isiah had a GREAT team around him. As do many eventual Champions. You have to have a TEAM that is playoff level and then from there you can perhaps lift them to the next level, but it's hard for any player to lift a team that's not ready. Just look at how McGrady did with a bad team in Orl, or AI in Philly, or any other great player for that matter. You can't continue to hold all of this against him when clearly we need guys on this team to help him. Right now especially without key players that's gonna be hard.

I want to see Steph play here when this team is much more ready to do battle on a higher level. It takes time for teams to reach that level. I think we'll eventually get there. The young guys getting more playing experience is the only good thing to come of all these injuries.
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3/31/2007  1:48 PM
Posted by nixluva:

The thing is that Steph has been a much more team oriented player this year and I think it's unfair to just say that this is an example of him somehow being unable to get teams to win.

What has he been doing the last 10 yrs then ?

He needed to be coached when he was younger to learn how to score and draw and dish at the last second.

When he left minny , he lost his chance to be considered one of the best all-time playing alongside Garnett.

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3/31/2007  2:19 PM
Posted by misterearl:

enigma is a funny word.

Marbury is just a man whose flaws have been magnified to the point that some people are more enamored with seeing him fail than succeed

e"nig"ma indeed

Wow. You are a moron. Confirmed. Thanks for proving it.
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3/31/2007  2:26 PM
Posted by misterearl:

enigma is a funny word.

Marbury is just a man whose flaws have been magnified to the point that some people are more enamored with seeing him fail than succeed

e"nig"ma indeed

You're such an idiot, it's scary.
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3/31/2007  2:38 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by misterearl:

enigma is a funny word.

Marbury is just a man whose flaws have been magnified to the point that some people are more enamored with seeing him fail than succeed

e"nig"ma indeed




You're such an idiot, it's scary.


He doesn't watch the games so who cares what he thinks.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-31-2007 1:38 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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3/31/2007  2:39 PM
Simply because neither of you can understand Earl's point doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, I would say he's quite the opposite.
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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3/31/2007  2:44 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Simply because neither of you can understand Earl's point doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, I would say he's quite the opposite.

I beg to differ. Making it about race is insulting and ignorant.

Understand that.
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3/31/2007  2:50 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:

Simply because neither of you can understand Earl's point doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, I would say he's quite the opposite.

I beg to differ. Making it about race is insulting and ignorant.

Understand that.

I would, in fact, argue that leaving it out of the equation is quite the opposite, and your rejection of it as a plausible factor is more justification for this view based on a substantial amount of research.



[Edited by - PresIke on 03-31-2007 2:51 PM]
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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3/31/2007  2:59 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:

Simply because neither of you can understand Earl's point doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, I would say he's quite the opposite.

I beg to differ. Making it about race is insulting and ignorant.

Understand that.

I would, in fact, argue that leaving it out of the equation is quite the opposite, and your rejection of it as a plausible factor is more justification for this view based on a substantial amount of research.
[Edited by - PresIke on 03-31-2007 2:51 PM]

The NBA is over 90% black but despite all of us being huge fans and supporters of the league, we're going to pick on this one player based on his race.

Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
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3/31/2007  3:00 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:

Simply because neither of you can understand Earl's point doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, I would say he's quite the opposite.

I beg to differ. Making it about race is insulting and ignorant.

Understand that.

I would, in fact, argue that leaving it out of the equation is quite the opposite, and your rejection of it as a plausible factor is more justification for this view based on a substantial amount of research.



[Edited by - PresIke on 03-31-2007 2:51 PM]

Oh and congratulations for doing exactly what misterearl wanted. To make this issue about race.

Great job.
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3/31/2007  3:05 PM
Ignorance is bliss

presike - you ever notive the first people who instantly reject race as having any influence in the perception of athletes, are the same ones who immediately post the most derrogatory remarks?

Forgiveness, as a concept, seems to exist only for a select few athletes who some feel are worthy of such generous treatment.

Marbury is an enigma?

Deep.

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