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djsunyc
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3/23/2007  6:11 PM
good cost effective signing.

but i don't think he's playoff eligible this year.

makes frye a little expendable right now.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-23-2007 6:12 PM]
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3/23/2007  6:11 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

so what's the run down on this guy?

He's another big soft center. Kind of a cross between Frye and Curry.

Gotta agree with Crash, Isles. I think he's far from soft, he doesnt shy away from banging in the paint, he's a big guy, he can rebound the ball, he's got a good touch around the basket, he can block shots. He reminds me alot of Jamaal Magloire.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 03-23-2007 6:12 PM]
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3/23/2007  6:12 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

so what's the run down on this guy?

He's another big soft center. Kind of a cross between Frye and Curry.

Gotta agree with Crash, Isles. I think he's far from soft, he doesnt shy away from banging in the paint, he's a big guy, he can rebound the ball, he's got a good touch around the basketball, he can block shots. He reminds me alot of Jamaal Magloire.

See my scouting report above
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3/23/2007  6:14 PM
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3/23/2007  6:18 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

so what's the run down on this guy?

He's another big soft center. Kind of a cross between Frye and Curry.

Gotta agree with Crash, Isles. I think he's far from soft, he doesnt shy away from banging in the paint, he's a big guy, he can rebound the ball, he's got a good touch around the basketball, he can block shots. He reminds me alot of Jamaal Magloire.

See my scouting report above

Great signing. I really like it but why? Frye, Lee, Curry, Morris? 4 young bigs to develop? A guy who takes Curry's spot? Why do we now have 4 centers(JJ, Curry, Frye, Cato, Morris)? I would've preferred a swing so we can get a leg up on a future SG/SF(Q is done).

Like I said as an individual move it is great. As a move that fits in with the team it's confusing? Does this mean Frye is expendable for a pick? Why a two year deal out the gate? I remember he signed Butler to the exact same type of deal.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-23-2007 6:19 PM]
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3/23/2007  6:32 PM
Free draft pick!

This certainly lessens the sting of losing our pick to the Bulls AND we get that DAWG (-c- Stephen A.) we've sorely needed.

Good work Zeke and GG.

[Edited by - K22 on 03-23-2007 6:32 PM]
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3/23/2007  6:33 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by martin:

so what's the run down on this guy?

He's another big soft center. Kind of a cross between Frye and Curry.

Gotta agree with Crash, Isles. I think he's far from soft, he doesnt shy away from banging in the paint, he's a big guy, he can rebound the ball, he's got a good touch around the basketball, he can block shots. He reminds me alot of Jamaal Magloire.

See my scouting report above

Great signing. I really like it but why? Frye, Lee, Curry, Morris? 4 young bigs to develop? A guy who takes Curry's spot? Why do we now have 4 centers(JJ, Curry, Frye, Cato, Morris)? I would've preferred a swing so we can get a leg up on a future SG/SF(Q is done).

Like I said as an individual move it is great. As a move that fits in with the team it's confusing? Does this mean Frye is expendable for a pick? Why a two year deal out the gate? I remember he signed Butler to the exact same type of deal.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-23-2007 6:19 PM]


If there was a swing player of Morris caliber to sign right now, then maybe he pulls the trigger. This makes tons of sense especially when you consider that one of the Knicks main targets in the draft was shot-blocking and rebounding. Hopefully Morris can fill some of that void and the Knicks can use there pisk on a much needed swing player (Almond, Marcus Wiliams etc).
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3/23/2007  6:35 PM
I dont see how this makes Frye expendable. Morris is a center. I dont see Morris and Curry being able to play together.
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3/23/2007  6:38 PM
Randolph Morris
Previous Team: Kentucky, Freshman
Physicals:
H: 6' 11"
W: 266 lbs
Bday: 1/3/1986
(21 Years Old)

Positions:
Current: C
NBA: C
Possible: PF/C

Comparisons:
Best Case: Jamaal Magloire
Worst Case: Brendon Haywood

Strengths
Morris is a big kid, a bit lumbering, but has quick feet and good instincts. Even though he's not a legit seven feet, he looks comfortable in his body and possesses great natural awareness of where to be in proximity to the basket. This comes in most handy when catching the post feed and setting up for what has become a signature move -- the turn-around 10-15 foot jumper.

The big Georgian has enormous hands and uses them well, handling tough passes from either wing effectively. If Morris catches the ball near the basket, he will dunk it. A few feet away and he has more trouble.

As a full-court player, he is above-average athletically for his size, but is nowhere near the leaper former AAU teammate Dwight Howard is. Morris is more agile than he is athletic, using good timing in lieu of overwhelming jumping ability.

His frame is certainly NBA caliber, and once he starts working out full-time in an NBA weight room he should be one of the bigger and stronger players on the floor at any given time.

As intelligent a young man as he is off the court, Morris' freshman year at UK showed that he can utilize this prowess on the court, too. He plays the angles well, using space provided him when he needs to rather than always bulling his way to the hoop.

Probably the most intriguing number in Morris' stat-line this year are his 143 free throw attempts in only 672 minutes. Compared with other centers around the country, that is an extremely impressive ratio. He accomplished that despite the fact that Kentucky's offense was in no way built around feeding him the ball.

Simply seeing more of Morris on the court, rather than sitting on the bench in foul trouble, would no doubt extend his list of positives. He showed some sparks of being able to do more at times, especially in terms of his post moves and footwork, but nothing consistent.

Weaknesses
As noted, Morris is relatively quick afoot for a player his size, but is not a dynamic jumper. He makes up for it by gaining good position. Too often, however, the position was wasted when Morris wasn't aggressive enough in pursuing the ball. He got better towards the end of his frosh campaign, but needs to show more fire in his belly about rebounding.

Morris is big for college, but will not find NBA centers so easily moved off the block. Morris needs to improve on his footwork, anticipating his next move rather than planting and waiting for the ball to reach him.

While he has shown good, if raw, low post moves, Morris is more comfortable facing and shooting than using an effective drop-step. He'll dunk if he is alone and unguarded near the basket, but can be forced out of the lane if he's planted a few feet from the goal. Has not shown the ability to consistently create space between himself and his defender, but has shown the ability to hit the jumper over his defender when the space isn't there and create his own shot. Whether that shot goes in consistently remains to be seen.

Morris' shot blocking instincts are decent, but he's no jumping jack. He could use his college coach's instruction on attention to defense and positioning for another year since he can't make up for his mistakes athletically the way a Howard or a Stromile Swift might.

Competition
Morris looked his best in big games at the end of year, notching 20 points in the season finale, a thrilling double-OT loss to Michigan State (matching up with Paul Davis).

While Morris looked overwhelmed against potential No. 1 pick Andrew Bogut, the Kentucky freshman came up big against Cincinnati's powerful frontline, grabbing a season-high 12 boards.

Morris' best offensive games were showcases for his mid-range jumper and raw power, while his worst outputs showed his immaturity and his penchant for foul trouble. Morris held his own against Lawrence Roberts and Mississippi State (17 points), but looked outmatched against quicker centers like Brandon Bass (4 points, fouled out).

It's worth noting that Morris showed improvement as the year progressed, the flameout against Utah notwithstanding.

Outlook
Morris shocked more than a few Kentucky fans with a late announcement about his NBA draft intentions, but as a big kid with skill, it's not surprising he's thinking about going pro for real.

There's little doubt Morris isn't ready for the daily grind of being a professional basketball player, but in a day and age of drafting potential over performance, Morris fits the bill to a tee.

Morris would still be better served by sticking around another year or two and learning better defense, improved aggressiveness on the glass and honing his offensive game. He'll get more touches as a sophomore and should improve on what are fairly paltry numbers for a big time prospect.

But Morris has the goods, whether he can parlay them into consistently dominant play remains to be seen.

Comments
Morris is a lot like some other high school and college freshmen centers in that his skills are not yet defined. It's hard to imagine Morris stepping on the court right now against even a passable NBA center like Aaron Williams or Adonal Foyle and having much of an impact. Obviously, given hours, days and weeks to hone his game, he'd certainly improve tremendously. However, given that he's not the athlete Howard is or the playmaker Josh Smith is, he's little more than a project at this point.

That said, he's a fantastic prospect, given the natural maturing process. Defensively, Morris still needs major improvement to be a regular NBA player, and it says here that another year of instruction from a top-flight college coach like Tubby Smith at Kentucky would make a borderline first-round Morris this year into a monster in a year or two. It certainly worked for Andrew Bogut.

Morris would benefit from a second year at Kentucky, getting good college press as one of the nation's best centers, and working on polishing his offensive game. Languishing at the end of an NBA bench seems like a waste for a kid with skill but not consistency. After all, its not like you can read Les Miserables sitting there while the rest of the team battles the Lakers.

But strong play from similar players like Al Jefferson with the Celtics makes guys like Morris feel they are ready, despite evidence to the contrary.

Facts
Was named a Parade and McDonald's All-American after his senior year.

While his game is all power, he is soft-spoken off the court and is a very good student. A member of the Beta club in high school, Morris is prone to reading Dostoevsky and Victor Hugo novels in in his spare time.

According to ESPN Insider's Chad Ford, sources in Kentucky have indicated that he is a legit 6-11 in shoes. He was listed all year at 6-10 by the Wildcats. That inch makes a pretty big difference considering that he is projected as a center in the NBA.
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3/23/2007  6:47 PM
Posted by VDesai:



See my scouting report above

LOL! Atleast we agree
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3/23/2007  6:51 PM
Can he play this season? that's insane, if so.
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3/23/2007  6:52 PM
very good signing

nice job Isiah
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3/23/2007  6:53 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Can he play this season? that's insane, if so.

he can play tonight...but he's ineligible for the playoffs.
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3/23/2007  7:02 PM
Interesting. Is this guy mobile enough to play some PF or is he strictly a C? How much range does his jumper have?
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3/23/2007  7:03 PM
I'm getting a lot of reviews about this guy. is he this good?
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3/23/2007  7:05 PM
As we've been saying for the longest, isiah knows young talent and young talent Morris is.

Good move by Isiah building for the future. Isiah needs to get away from free-agent signings or trades.

He's better off recruiting young talent and developing them
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3/23/2007  7:08 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

As we've been saying for the longest, isiah knows young talent and young talent Morris is.

Good move by Isiah building for the future. Isiah needs to get away from free-agent signings or trades.

He's better off recruiting young talent and developing them

As much as I hate Isiah you have to give him credit for finding young talent. I completely agree with you he needs to stay away from signing and trades. And with his eye for young talent he could build a great team.
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3/23/2007  7:09 PM
Posted by AI:

I'm getting a lot of reviews about this guy. is he this good?

Well he's not Greg Oden but he's pretty damn good. He's a 1st round of the draft talent.
Posted by tomverve:

Interesting. Is this guy mobile enough to play some PF or is he strictly a C? How much range does his jumper have?

I see him as a Center in the NBA but he could definitely play PF for us next to Eddy. This is the type of guy that Eddy needs playing next to him because he does the dirty work. A 3man rotation of Eddy/Morris/Lee and we are set up front, I think. Time to trade Frye and someone else for that perimeter guard we are looking for.

He doesn't have a Channing Frye jumper but he can drain the 10-12footer with consistency. This guy does his work in the paint and he takes a ton of FT's.
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3/23/2007  7:12 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by AI:

I'm getting a lot of reviews about this guy. is he this good?

Well he's not Greg Oden but he's pretty damn good. He's a 1st round of the draft talent.
Posted by tomverve:

Interesting. Is this guy mobile enough to play some PF or is he strictly a C? How much range does his jumper have?

I see him as a Center in the NBA but he could definitely play PF for us next to Eddy. This is the type of guy that Eddy needs playing next to him because he does the dirty work. A 3man rotation of Eddy/Morris/Lee and we are set up front, I think. Time to trade Frye and someone else for that perimeter guard we are looking for.

He doesn't have a Channing Frye jumper but he can drain the 10-12footer with consistency. This guy does his work in the paint and he takes a ton of FT's.

how is his rebounding and shot blocking?
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3/23/2007  7:15 PM
Posted by AI:



how is his rebounding and shot blocking?

Those are his best attributes AI. He's a great rebounder and he played against good bigs in the SEC so it's not a smokescreen. He goes after the ball hard everytime and he gives you everything he's got. He's a good shotblocker, his shotblocking increased every year he was at Kentucky, if I'm not mistaken. He averaged 2bpg a game this year, but it's something he improved every year.
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