Posted by franco12:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Yes, but he's also expendable if they don't develop jumpers!

we need a franchise changer like Erick Dampier.

Having Curry demand double & triple teams doesn't help us if he can't make a pass out. Even if we had outside shooters.

Curry's gotten better- I just don't believe that he can be the piece that takes us to the playoffs or even deep. I just don't believe.

I would try to trade him this summer and get back some decent talent/picks/less cap money.

Yeah I'm looking at Curry's returns now with the team vs what he could probably fetch on the open market in a trade. I think the time is ripe this summer to move the WIDE LOAD.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-21-2007 10:06 AM]

Posted by MS:
I would rather have the Mavs combo because at least they protect the rim......

if we had a stud player like Dirk, i'd agree w/u completely... but we don't... we have a collection of non-superstar calibre perimeter players that won't elevate your franchise to contention on their own... you need a bigman down low who can score if you're lacking a superstar player to win in this league... i'm not saying Curry is definitively that bigman we need to elevate this team, but right now he's the best hope we have to develop one.

Frye has a more diverse offense game than Curry He has a solid jump hook and a turnaround jumper. Curry's lack of a mid-post game or a turnaround jumper limits what he can do and he needs to be surrounded by shooters to really maximize his game.

i think they can both work on the same team, but you'd still need a stud defensive shotblocker to patrol the paint.

I fail to see why we'd be trying to move Frye at ALL. The guy is still early in his development. I think he's gonne get better. More confident and consistent. He has the skills. It's not like we haven't seen what this guy can do. He even has been playing better on D. It was clear to me that he's still working on his game. If we're gonna give up on guys in their 2nd year in the league, why even bother to draft anyone? If Balkman still can't hit a jumper next year do we just throw him out with the trash? I remember it took a while for Bruce Bowen to develop a shot. Now he's a very reliable 3 pt shooter. Ariza has improved quite a bit this year. I remember when Gerald Wallace didn't have a shot either.

would u do Frye, Nate & Jefferies for G Wall?

Frye, Jamal & Jefferies is not a match salary wise or talent wise... u'd have to add in another solid player from CHA to get both to match.

i wouldn't mind a Frye, Jamal & JJ for G Wall & B Knight trade... Jamal would be a solid backcourt mate for Felton, & Knight would bring us an orchestrating perimeter defender to back up Marbury... Frye would shore up their frontcourt & bring some added scoring to pair w/Okafor in the paint... Jefferies is purely cap filler in this deal, but he might play better defense w/a shotblocker like Okafor because he'd be able to take more risks while guarding guys on the perimeter.

the idea would be to start Wallace at the 2 w/Balk at the 3... admittedly, you'd need Marbury to carry a huge load of the scoring in that case... or you'd need to sign a really solid backup SG who can knock down an open perimeter shot... you'd become a very strong perimeter defensive team, but then lose on the offensive end, so you may be right that it might not be worth it... sorta like a robbing Peter to pay Paul type scenario.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Her'e a Curry trade I'd love to see


Curry, Jeffries, Rose, Nate

4

Camby and Nene

No way does Dolan bring back trhe Cambyman....

Posted by TMS:

no thanks to gimpy 11 & 6 Nene & that contract he just signed.

Yeah, Nene's contract is a killer. Far worse than Jeffries' deal.

If Lee develops a jumper he becomes a near superstar. He's an 11-11 guy with 60% shooting as it as...thats a starter on any team. Balkman could have a Gerald Wallace style upside. But neither would be a replacement for an inside scoring presence.

Frye's been beaten down on this site, but he has real offensive potential (and has more of a head on D than Curry). But he's a center and he's not gonna develop with Curry around. He just doesn't have the mobility to play the scoring PF role, and he's certainly not a banging PF. If you told me to choose at the beginning of the year I probably would've chosen to develop Frye, cause he's got a better head and better work ethic.

Curry has been a natural scorer- he's needed to get out on the court more, improve his endurance and reduce his fouls. He's done that and now he's a 20 point scorer. Will he become a dominating scorer, a better defender and/or a better rebounder? I still don't know if he has the head or committment to the game do it.

We've made the committment to develop Curry so he's the one to keep. He can still be an asset, and would probably be more of an asset if Lee and Balkman could develop jumpers to stay on the floor more and make up for Curry's deficiencies.

Posted by TMS:

Nene makes less than Jeffries and Rose and Nate for the next 2 seasons, factoring the Knicks picking up Nate's option in 08/09. After that Nene is only on the Books for 2 more seasons.

in those final 2 seasons, he'd be making $13 mil & $14 mil respectively... that's a ton o'cheddah for a guy who can't stay healthy to save his life & isn't much more than a backup C/PF at this point... i'd love to get Camby back, but to play WITH Curry, not instead of him... if we could trade Frye, Nate & Malik for him for example, i'd do it in a heartbeat.

Curry will stand to make the same if not more during those same 2 yrs if he opts out, which he will and Jeffries still remains on the books. One thing that could be of benefit is having Camby's contract that yr because it would be an expiring one.