Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Ira:

In terms of right now, with two rotation players out for an extended period and with Q in and out of the lineup we're in worse shape than most teams we have to play against.

then we should rebuild the whole team

Posted by kam77:

Posted by BRIGGS:

No excuses--stop complaining. We've been very fortuante to be 6-1 in OT with a few other wins in regulation by the skin of our pants. certainly we have showed resolve.

I'll also leave it like this--aamare stoudemire from 2 years ago[and he sbetter than any knick now even with his injury] was worth more than the whole team put together. He was out the whole season--Phoenix had other injuries had many young new players and still won 60 games. Case closed.

Of course injuries can effect the w-l record but we dont have a David Robinsonm type player where it wouldnt truly put us out of whack we had a 130 mm $ payroll steve francis was a back up jalen rose was a back up[knicks decid to cut him?] injuries so what.

BI get the overall point, but think you could've come up with a better example. Using PHX as your example with Amare? They had this guy who won MVP that year. They also had Joe Johnson who is now, and deserved then, to be an All-Star. To say nothing of their glue guy, Shawn Marion. How can you bring up a juggernaut like the SUNS to make your point?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Heres the problem guys. We shouldn't be building around the guys we're building around.

If losing Quentin Richardson or Jamal Crawford for an extended period of time sinks your team, then what does that really say about your team?

Who said we're building around them? We're building WITH them right now, but they can be changed out. There's no guarantee that we stick with any one of those guys. Teams make trades of guys like them all the time. Curry and Lee is the most important core of the team going into the future. I have hope that Frye will still develop into a dependable player for this team, so i'd still include him as a core member, but we'll have to see about that. You can change players around the core, but what they do is hard to replace. Steph is a core member but only for the next few seasons. So basically you have Steph, Curry and Lee and we hope that the other players can play their roles and make this a well functioning team.

The thing is that if you have a team like the Spurs or Detroit etc. they have superior talent and should be able to survive injuries better than teams in the Knicks range. I think the Knicks have played a bit over their heads during the suspensions and with the injuries of Lee and Jamal. I hope they can continue to play hard and hopefully EXECUTE better. For lesser teams it's often about how well they execute. That's certainly the case for the Knicks. If we can cut down on the TO's and finally start to get the Ball to Curry, then we have a much greater chance to win games.

I never once in my post said we were building around Crawford and Q. The point of my post is that if we lose Crawford and Q for any extended period and the team has trouble winning games then what does that really say about the guys we ARE building around AKA, Curry, Marbury. Curry looks absolutely lost right now and thats a TELLING sign. If this guy can only score his points because Jamal Crawford is the only guard on our team that can make an entry pass to him right where he likes it, then we got a serious problem on our hands.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 03-16-2007 6:47 PM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Heres the problem guys. We shouldn't be building around the guys we're building around.

If losing Quentin Richardson or Jamal Crawford for an extended period of time sinks your team, then what does that really say about your team?

Who said we're building around them? We're building WITH them right now, but they can be changed out. There's no guarantee that we stick with any one of those guys. Teams make trades of guys like them all the time. Curry and Lee is the most important core of the team going into the future. I have hope that Frye will still develop into a dependable player for this team, so i'd still include him as a core member, but we'll have to see about that. You can change players around the core, but what they do is hard to replace. Steph is a core member but only for the next few seasons. So basically you have Steph, Curry and Lee and we hope that the other players can play their roles and make this a well functioning team.

The thing is that if you have a team like the Spurs or Detroit etc. they have superior talent and should be able to survive injuries better than teams in the Knicks range. I think the Knicks have played a bit over their heads during the suspensions and with the injuries of Lee and Jamal. I hope they can continue to play hard and hopefully EXECUTE better. For lesser teams it's often about how well they execute. That's certainly the case for the Knicks. If we can cut down on the TO's and finally start to get the Ball to Curry, then we have a much greater chance to win games.

I never once in my post said we were building around Crawford and Q. The point of my post is that if we lose Crawford and Q for any extended period and the team has trouble winning games then what does that really say about the guys we ARE building around AKA, Curry, Marbury. Curry looks absolutely lost right now and thats a TELLING sign. If this guy can only score his points because Jamal Crawford is the only guard on our team that can make an entry pass to him right where he likes it, then we got a serious problem on our hands.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 03-16-2007 6:47 PM]