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PresIke
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3/15/2007  10:46 PM
Welcome aboard, Cash. Upon first impressions you come across as a fan who isn't completely obsessed with loathing everything about Isiah's Knicks, aka can see that there are some positives about the team and its potential but can also observe flaws without resorting to insults. You are a more than welcome poster from my perspective.

I can't say that I agree with you about Curry's game. I see plenty of room for improvement, but I believe there is sufficient reason to suggest that he has made real progress this year. Yesterday, when Breen and Frazier expressed concern about his being used to playing with Crawford and the alley-oops that have gotten Eddy going before, I think that this was a fair criticism, but maybe an experience that Curry has to have.

There is a post here with some here going crazy about Francis and Curry arguing earlier in yesterday's Toronto game, but maybe it's not such a bad thing. First of all, Curry is the main scorer on the team, and has been carrying us all season. Francis, for all of his record as a NBA scorer, has not been the main guy this year. Add to that the fact that Eddy was in good position to score, and Francis was dribbling too much. This is a learning experience for both, on working together as teammates, rather than a major reason to go crazy and panic as a fan. If this happens A LOT without adjustment, then sure it's reason to be very concerned, but you have to have a reasonable level of patience considering the circumstances.

For Eddy to learn to stand up for himself as the main guy to Francis is not wrong based on what he's done this year is VERY FAR GONE from the Curry we knew last year. However, maybe it is a way for Eddy -- hopefully with good coaching from Isiah, who I believe has earned Curry's respect -- that he sees some of the things he may need to do to ensure the highest level of respect from his teammates. Now, he might need to be careful about getting too big for his britches too fast, but at the same time this is a learning process for him, I'm sure, and I suspect his teammates.

He's now having to learn how to deal with being doubled as soon as his teammates start to pass the ball to him or he gets it. Part of that falls on the guards, and it has been Crawford who was best at it most of the year, so Marbury -- who has shown a lot of willingness to work with Isiah -- and Francis may need to adjust some more. That's just part of playing a team game. I also would like to see Eddy establish post position closer to the basket, which is what I noticed was not happening in the Raptor's game yesterday, as well as consistency both defensively and on the boards. I think a fair person can observe that he can be strong on the boards and defense at times, but like most NBA players he lacks consistency. I see growth in this area already compared to last season, and I think that because of the coaching from Isiah and his staff, as well as Eddy's apparent growing confidence in himself, that these can still improve.

Maybe they won't all get to the point of some fans' satisfaction, but I think that he is a very welcome addition to our team, and am looking forward to seeing what occurs through the rest of his career as a Knick.
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PresIke
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3/15/2007  10:47 PM
P.S. - DJ Su, is a jokester...he's a cool cat, although somewhat insane at times (check his Live from Section 404! blog to see what I mean..haha) he's just playing around in good fun.
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
Cash
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3/15/2007  10:49 PM
Posted by PresIke:

P.S. - DJ Su, is a jokester...he's a cool cat, although somewhat insane at times (check his Live from Section 404! blog to see what I mean..haha) he's just playing around in good fun.

Before I get to what you said, I know who he is and appreciate him.
Cash
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3/15/2007  10:53 PM
Posted by BigC:

You sure you do not post on Realgm?



Also this story has to many endings. End of story.

I already told you in the other thread that i used to post there. Good pickup. Like realgm, I will continue to post there like i did there. I will not mess with little kids and people who reason like them(I used to think you were a little kid with the transformer avatar). This is the last post I will ever consider from you.) Consider yourself as good as Bernard King, aka sugarray richardson, and the like.

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3/15/2007  11:00 PM
Cash sounds like someone who's hired by dolan to crash the UK.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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3/15/2007  11:02 PM
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BigC:

You sure you do not post on Realgm?



Also this story has to many endings. End of story.

I already told you in the other thread that i used to post there. Good pickup. Like realgm, I will continue to post there like i did there. I will not mess with little kids and people who reason like them(I used to think you were a little kid with the transformer avatar). This is the last post I will ever consider from you.) Consider yourself as good as Bernard King, aka sugarray richardson, and the like.


GKF?

Cash
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3/15/2007  11:02 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Welcome aboard, Cash. Upon first impressions you come across as a fan who isn't completely obsessed with loathing everything about Isiah's Knicks, aka can see that there are some positives about the team and its potential but can also observe flaws without resorting to insults. You are a more than welcome poster from my perspective.

I can't say that I agree with you about Curry's game. I see plenty of room for improvement, but I believe there is sufficient reason to suggest that he has made real progress this year. Yesterday, when Breen and Frazier expressed concern about his being used to playing with Crawford and the alley-oops that have gotten Eddy going before, I think that this was a fair criticism, but maybe an experience that Curry has to have.

There is a post here with some here going crazy about Francis and Curry arguing earlier in yesterday's Toronto game, but maybe it's not such a bad thing. First of all, Curry is the main scorer on the team, and has been carrying us all season. Francis, for all of his record as a NBA scorer, has not been the main guy this year. Add to that the fact that Eddy was in good position to score, and Francis was dribbling too much. This is a learning experience for both, on working together as teammates, rather than a major reason to go crazy and panic as a fan. If this happens A LOT without adjustment, then sure it's reason to be very concerned, but you have to have a reasonable level of patience considering the circumstances.

For Eddy to learn to stand up for himself as the main guy to Francis is not wrong based on what he's done this year is VERY FAR GONE from the Curry we knew last year. However, maybe it is a way for Eddy -- hopefully with good coaching from Isiah, who I believe has earned Curry's respect -- that he sees some of the things he may need to do to ensure the highest level of respect from his teammates. Now, he might need to be careful about getting too big for his britches too fast, but at the same time this is a learning process for him, I'm sure, and I suspect his teammates.

He's now having to learn how to deal with being doubled as soon as his teammates start to pass the ball to him or he gets it. Part of that falls on the guards, and it has been Crawford who was best at it most of the year, so Marbury -- who has shown a lot of willingness to work with Isiah -- and Francis may need to adjust some more. That's just part of playing a team game. I also would like to see Eddy establish post position closer to the basket, which is what I noticed was not happening in the Raptor's game yesterday, as well as consistency both defensively and on the boards. I think a fair person can observe that he can be strong on the boards and defense at times, but like most NBA players he lacks consistency. I see growth in this area already compared to last season, and I think that because of the coaching from Isiah and his staff, as well as Eddy's apparent growing confidence in himself, that these can still improve.

Maybe they won't all get to the point of some fans' satisfaction, but I think that he is a very welcome addition to our team, and am looking forward to seeing what occurs through the rest of his career as a Knick.

I think eddy can be effective in some situations. He needs to play limited minutes. He needs to try when he is out there 100%. He needs to be out there when the matchups favor him. The coach needs to explain to him he needs to rebound, help defend, etc,. In these type of situations he can be effective.

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3/15/2007  11:03 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BigC:

You sure you do not post on Realgm?



Also this story has to many endings. End of story.

I already told you in the other thread that i used to post there. Good pickup. Like realgm, I will continue to post there like i did there. I will not mess with little kids and people who reason like them(I used to think you were a little kid with the transformer avatar). This is the last post I will ever consider from you.) Consider yourself as good as Bernard King, aka sugarray richardson, and the like.


GKF?

I am after you time guy. But Gfk is an absolute insult.
BigC
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3/15/2007  11:08 PM
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BigC:

You sure you do not post on Realgm?



Also this story has to many endings. End of story.

I already told you in the other thread that i used to post there. Good pickup. Like realgm, I will continue to post there like i did there. I will not mess with little kids and people who reason like them(I used to think you were a little kid with the transformer avatar). This is the last post I will ever consider from you.) Consider yourself as good as Bernard King, aka sugarray richardson, and the like.


GKF?

I am after you time guy. But Gfk is an absolute insult.

Yeah right. You post just like him. You have yet to say who you are from realgm.

BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks highlights after every Knicks game http://fromthebaseline.com/
Cash
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3/15/2007  11:11 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Cash:
Posted by BigC:

You sure you do not post on Realgm?




Also this story has to many endings. End of story.

I already told you in the other thread that i used to post there. Good pickup. Like realgm, I will continue to post there like i did there. I will not mess with little kids and people who reason like them(I used to think you were a little kid with the transformer avatar). This is the last post I will ever consider from you.) Consider yourself as good as Bernard King, aka sugarray richardson, and the like.


GKF?

I am after you time guy. But Gfk is an absolute insult.

Yeah right. You post just like him. You have yet to say who you are from realgm.

Hey BigC, I will brake my promise for this. Thanks for the welcome! You should understand that really good!
nyk4ever
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3/15/2007  11:20 PM
I've said it already but I'll say it again. Welcome Cash.
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Cash
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3/15/2007  11:23 PM
Thank you and I appreciate the welcome. And, no I was not banned from realgm before I came here, it was a personal choice to be around better posters. In fact, I think I might have already lost a discussion here. However, we will see how it all plays out afterall.
Cash
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3/15/2007  11:29 PM
Islesfan, I would like a hello from you.

Afterall, aren't you the guy that said,

"We all know a guy starts playing defense after seven years in the league?"
islesfan
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3/15/2007  11:46 PM
Don't hold your breath.

You might be another incarnation of rvhoss.

Can't take that chance.
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Cash
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3/15/2007  11:57 PM
I don't know who that is but I wou;d still like a hello?
kam77
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3/16/2007  12:24 AM
"Lost a discussion"
Welcome aboard. Ok, not to single you out, but that phrase alone betrays a lot of whats wrong with fan forums these days. Cuz we all know nobody wins or loses anything here. We are not combatants, we're co-habitants. And the "better" forums should not be filled with people trying to one-up each other like Jim Rome clones.

side-bar: Maybe thats why the jamaican rastas would call their discussions "reasonings" instead of using a term like "de-bate" or "dis-cuss" (words that sounds as if you must destroy a thing, pick it apart, take sides and fortify your position). The brethren would come to a singluar agreement through a cooperative form of communication. And perhaps what they were smokin helped to smooth out the rough edges a little

We're all on the same side. Some of the people who post just have their "volume" and "ass hole" knobs turned up a little higher than necessary. But its mostly all good around here.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
islesfan
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3/16/2007  12:32 AM
Posted by kam77:
"Lost a discussion"
Welcome aboard. Ok, not to single you out, but that phrase alone betrays a lot of whats wrong with fan forums these days. Cuz we all know nobody wins or loses anything here. We are not combatants, we're co-habitants. And the "better" forums should not be filled with people trying to one-up each other like Jim Rome clones.

side-bar: Maybe thats why the jamaican rastas would call their discussions "reasonings" instead of using a term like "de-bate" or "dis-cuss" (words that sounds as if you must destroy a thing, pick it apart, take sides and fortify your position). The brethren would come to a singluar agreement through a cooperative form of communication. And perhaps what they were smokin helped to smooth out the rough edges a little

We're all on the same side. Some of the people who post just have their "volume" and "ass hole" knobs turned up a little higher than necessary. But its mostly all good around here.

You're wrong. I win again.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/16/2007  10:42 AM
Posted by Cash:
Posted by djsunyc:

where are you friends, money and hoes?

Less than adequate welcome. Thank you anyway.

that's dj's way of saying "Welcome to the Forums"... don't sweat that bro.
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3/16/2007  11:07 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Don't hold your breath.

You might be another incarnation of rvhoss.

Can't take that chance.

That's a really good point Islesfan. I'm glad you brought that to my attention. Or to a more extreme, perhaps Cash is Metfankev!
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3/16/2007  11:43 AM
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