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John Hollinger's follow up to the top 10 list of greatest centers
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technomaster
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3/9/2007  4:32 PM
Hmm. Let's think about this.

Actually, with a healthy Crawford next season, who doesn't think Curry could have better numbers next season? He's leads the NBA in points in the paint, has the best hands and best touch around the paint in the NBA, etc.

Prediction for next year, if he stays healthy:
21+ppg, 8+rpg, 1+apg, 1+bpg, 55+fg%.
This just means 2 more shots per game, and the rest could come with a little more experience.

Looking farther into the future, in 2 years, let's say he improves a little bit more and puts up a string of years where he never averages below these numbers:
23ppg, 8.5rpg, 1.5apg, 1.3bpg, 55%+fg%.

His rebounding, assists, and blocks would still be lower than what most of the supposed top-10 list averaged over the course of their careers.

Keep in mind, to get on this all-time list, these guys would be squaring away to bump off #10, Patrick Ewing, as the easiest target to surpass. As far as Curry doing this w/ the Knicks, he'd basically have to win some titles (at least 1).

Bill Walton has always been a question mark for me whenever people talk about best-ever - he was brilliant in college and revolutionary in about 2 of his 10 NBA seasons. He was hobbled in more than half of 'em, and re-invented himself as a 6th man of the year later in his career, while still relatively young. Short shelf life, fewer great seasons than any of the other top 10. If we're talking about NBA accomplishments, I don't think he makes the list.
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3/9/2007  5:21 PM
Prediction for next year, if he stays healthy:
21+ppg, 8+rpg, 1+apg, 1+bpg, 55+fg%.
This just means 2 more shots per game, and the rest could come with a little more experience.

agreed... even if he can just improve on his conditioning & FT shooting over the offseason, he could easily eclipse those #'s.

as far as passing Ewing on the list, it makes me laugh when people project guys who haven't done squat yet in the NBA as having alltime top 10 calibre potential... can we see these guys make an Allstar team at least before we annoint them as the next alltime great?
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3/9/2007  6:38 PM
Darko and Bynum do not belong on the list except for maybe in slots 9 & 10. They have down nothing, they have dominated nowhere, it just defy's logic.

You do realize that Bosh and JO are both 20 and 10 guys, plus JO adds 2 blocks to that, for like the last 5 or 6 years.


The list is a joke, any list with Bynum and Darko ahead of J Oneal is a complete and utter joke. If they belong on it, Curry belongs on it, he has done more, period.

Bynum is just behind Amare. Yeah, I'm sure thats where everyone has him.
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3/9/2007  7:30 PM
Posted by TMS:
Prediction for next year, if he stays healthy:
21+ppg, 8+rpg, 1+apg, 1+bpg, 55+fg%.
This just means 2 more shots per game, and the rest could come with a little more experience.

agreed... even if he can just improve on his conditioning & FT shooting over the offseason, he could easily eclipse those #'s.

as far as passing Ewing on the list, it makes me laugh when people project guys who haven't done squat yet in the NBA as having alltime top 10 calibre potential... can we see these guys make an Allstar team at least before we annoint them as the next alltime great?

I seriously doubt curry ever averages 8 rebounds throughout a season. he might get close to 1 blk though, but not even that is horribly likely.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-09-2007 7:31 PM]
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3/9/2007  9:26 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by TMS:
Prediction for next year, if he stays healthy:
21+ppg, 8+rpg, 1+apg, 1+bpg, 55+fg%.
This just means 2 more shots per game, and the rest could come with a little more experience.

agreed... even if he can just improve on his conditioning & FT shooting over the offseason, he could easily eclipse those #'s.

as far as passing Ewing on the list, it makes me laugh when people project guys who haven't done squat yet in the NBA as having alltime top 10 calibre potential... can we see these guys make an Allstar team at least before we annoint them as the next alltime great?

I seriously doubt curry ever averages 8 rebounds throughout a season. he might get close to 1 blk though, but not even that is horribly likely.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-09-2007 7:31 PM]

As awful a rebounder as Curry is, he's averaging 7 on the season. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to predict 1 more a game if he gets into better shape.
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3/9/2007  9:33 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

I seriously doubt curry ever averages 8 rebounds throughout a season.

why is it so hard to believe Curry can average just 1 more rebound a game at some point in his career than what he is doing now?
Posted by SlimPack:

he might get close to 1 blk though, but not even that is horribly likely.

right, because he's never done that before...

[Edited by - jaydh on 03-09-2007 9:34 PM]
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3/9/2007  10:18 PM
I dont think curry will ever get into the kind of shape he was in during his final year with the bulls. could be wrong though. anyway curry is in better shape this season than he was last season, yet his rebounding has gotten worse. it should get better in the upcoming seasons than it is now but I just dont think his rebounding will ever be good.

and as for the blocks isiah probably wont hire a defensive coach, that seems to have alot to do with it. but despite that I was wrong, he should be able to get over a block a game at some point. maybe not next season but at some point. but judging how his shot blocking has gotten worse this season from what it was last season and the seasons before, I'd say that he'll probably only do it once.



[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-09-2007 10:22 PM]
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3/9/2007  10:22 PM
His rebounding has gotten worse? It may be bad, but it's not as bad as last season. He's up another rebound from 06 and atleast once every 5 games, we can see him make a move at a rebound. Last season we didn't even have that.
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3/9/2007  10:50 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:

His rebounding has gotten worse? It may be bad, but it's not as bad as last season. He's up another rebound from 06 and atleast once every 5 games, we can see him make a move at a rebound. Last season we didn't even have that.

he did it sometimes last season. just like he does it sometimes now. what I meant was his rebounding per minute is worse. his rebounds per game is better purely because he's playing more.
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3/10/2007  4:38 AM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by MaTT4281:

His rebounding has gotten worse? It may be bad, but it's not as bad as last season. He's up another rebound from 06 and atleast once every 5 games, we can see him make a move at a rebound. Last season we didn't even have that.

he did it sometimes last season. just like he does it sometimes now. what I meant was his rebounding per minute is worse. his rebounds per game is better purely because he's playing more.

If he's rebounding at the same rate as last year in more minutes, his rpm would be worse.
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3/10/2007  7:43 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

His rebounding has gotten worse? It may be bad, but it's not as bad as last season.
Once you take into account minutes played, there is a large drop in his rebounding and shot blocking.

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3/10/2007  6:56 PM
Well, alrighty then. I think the only way Eddy's gonna be listed up there w/ the all-time greats is if he wins some titles. I think the consensus here is that there's little chance he'll elevate his rebounding & blocks (and assists & steals) to a an all-time great level.

Someone left off the list, ironically, is Curry's buddy Tyson Chandler, who has the potential to be one of the dominant rebounders and shot blockers for the next decade. He's a lot like Dwight Howard, just a little older.

I think these young guys who are already putting up 11+rpg/2+bpg averages relatively early in their careers might have a better chance to contend for all-time great status than Curry.
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