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3/7/2007  7:02 PM
Posted by TMS:

i highly doubt if you had watched the game, you'd be blaming Steph at all for that loss last night... the only reason the Knicks were even in the game was because he kept hitting big shots throughout the game to keep it close, & in the end he took over & drove them back to take the lead... missing the foul shot was a tough break, cuz as much as i've criticized the guy in the past, i really felt bad for him last night cuz he left his heart out on the floor last night.

this is a game i would blame Curry & Jefferies for missing their foul shots & not being aggressive all game long, & i won't defend them against any one who wants to take shots at Curry today... & where the hell did Channing Frye go? he's about as soft a player as i've seen wearing a Knicks' uniform in a long time... they were leaving him WIDE open all game long & he didn't want to take a shot after he missed a couple early... completely useless last night.

How many times I gotta tell you. Yes, no I did not see the game, but I don't need to see the game to comment. And I'll ask you a question. You keep talking about how the greatest player on earth carried the team on his back, but what about the free throw? Huh? Can you talk about that? I want to hear the excuse on that one.
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3/7/2007  7:03 PM
Posted by nixluva:

There has to start being some level of reasonableness when it comes to this guy.

I already tried that.
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3/7/2007  7:05 PM
Mar 6 vs. SEA 47 mins 40 pts
Mar 3 @ ATL 51mins 38 pts
Mar 2 vs. GSW 42 mins 34 pts
Feb 28 @ BOS 44 mins 23 pts
Feb 26 vs. MIA 39 mins 25 pts
Feb 25 @ NJN 45 mins 22 pts
Feb 23 vs. MIL 43 mins 22 pts

Like I said already. Anyone' can do this, if given those hog balling minutes.
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3/7/2007  7:09 PM
Posted by bsw3:

This is great. This is the slow class post and 4949 is the kid who keeps raising his hand to say something absolutely pointless.

You mean 'low class post' don't you? I"m proud of my low class post and stand by it all the way. I can't stand starbury, let's make that clear, and I can't wait for that piece of low class bum to be thrown off of this team. He's a phony and you know it! Let's talk about the key free throw missed, by the guy who carries this team on his back, why don't we, huh?
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3/7/2007  8:14 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

i highly doubt if you had watched the game, you'd be blaming Steph at all for that loss last night... the only reason the Knicks were even in the game was because he kept hitting big shots throughout the game to keep it close, & in the end he took over & drove them back to take the lead... missing the foul shot was a tough break, cuz as much as i've criticized the guy in the past, i really felt bad for him last night cuz he left his heart out on the floor last night.

this is a game i would blame Curry & Jefferies for missing their foul shots & not being aggressive all game long, & i won't defend them against any one who wants to take shots at Curry today... & where the hell did Channing Frye go? he's about as soft a player as i've seen wearing a Knicks' uniform in a long time... they were leaving him WIDE open all game long & he didn't want to take a shot after he missed a couple early... completely useless last night.

How many times I gotta tell you. Yes, no I did not see the game, but I don't need to see the game to comment. And I'll ask you a question. You keep talking about how the greatest player on earth carried the team on his back, but what about the free throw? Huh? Can you talk about that? I want to hear the excuse on that one.

first of all, calm down cuz if u've been reading any of my posts u'd know i'm not even close to Marbury's biggest fan around here... but unlike you, i did watch last night's game, & take my word for it, he played his heart out... the game wasn't lost because of his missed FT... the game was lost because other guys failed to step up.
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3/7/2007  8:26 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

i highly doubt if you had watched the game, you'd be blaming Steph at all for that loss last night... the only reason the Knicks were even in the game was because he kept hitting big shots throughout the game to keep it close, & in the end he took over & drove them back to take the lead... missing the foul shot was a tough break, cuz as much as i've criticized the guy in the past, i really felt bad for him last night cuz he left his heart out on the floor last night.

this is a game i would blame Curry & Jefferies for missing their foul shots & not being aggressive all game long, & i won't defend them against any one who wants to take shots at Curry today... & where the hell did Channing Frye go? he's about as soft a player as i've seen wearing a Knicks' uniform in a long time... they were leaving him WIDE open all game long & he didn't want to take a shot after he missed a couple early... completely useless last night.

How many times I gotta tell you. Yes, no I did not see the game, but I don't need to see the game to comment. And I'll ask you a question. You keep talking about how the greatest player on earth carried the team on his back, but what about the free throw? Huh? Can you talk about that? I want to hear the excuse on that one.

first of all, calm down cuz if u've been reading any of my posts u'd know i'm not even close to Marbury's biggest fan around here... but unlike you, i did watch last night's game, & take my word for it, he played his heart out... the game wasn't lost because of his missed FT... the game was lost because other guys failed to step up.

Definitely bro. I'm with you T. The guy left it all out there on the court. What do you guys want him to do? He played great... I was proud of him and felt really bad for him when that damn FT didn't go down...
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3/7/2007  8:36 PM
4949 is just randomly saying nonsense. He didn't even see the game. You can't comment on a game you did not see.

So what's the point of this thread? To start trouble? Nobody on here is a bandwagon steph fan. The guy has come alive for our team and he is getting credit for it. Not much to say about that.

You would think we were talking about channing.

You lucky I'm not a moderator cuz I would have banned you for the nonsense you are trying to start. This aint realgm.

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3/8/2007  7:48 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

i highly doubt if you had watched the game, you'd be blaming Steph at all for that loss last night... the only reason the Knicks were even in the game was because he kept hitting big shots throughout the game to keep it close, & in the end he took over & drove them back to take the lead... missing the foul shot was a tough break, cuz as much as i've criticized the guy in the past, i really felt bad for him last night cuz he left his heart out on the floor last night.

this is a game i would blame Curry & Jefferies for missing their foul shots & not being aggressive all game long, & i won't defend them against any one who wants to take shots at Curry today... & where the hell did Channing Frye go? he's about as soft a player as i've seen wearing a Knicks' uniform in a long time... they were leaving him WIDE open all game long & he didn't want to take a shot after he missed a couple early... completely useless last night.

How many times I gotta tell you. Yes, no I did not see the game, but I don't need to see the game to comment. And I'll ask you a question. You keep talking about how the greatest player on earth carried the team on his back, but what about the free throw? Huh? Can you talk about that? I want to hear the excuse on that one.

first of all, calm down cuz if u've been reading any of my posts u'd know i'm not even close to Marbury's biggest fan around here... but unlike you, i did watch last night's game, & take my word for it, he played his heart out... the game wasn't lost because of his missed FT... the game was lost because other guys failed to step up.

Sorry, I'm calm now. I just don't know man. Three assists, in forty plus minutes? A few people around here make the assumption that when starbury tried to feed the ball inside, the others failed to execute. If that is true, then why doesn't it happen with Crawford, or Francis. I don't see them scoring 40 points, and close to no assists. They distribute the ball pretty good themselves. Besides, the issue isn't wether he played his heart out. The point is, did he really get his teamates involved? Based on what I saw from him in the past, I'd have to say no way. The function of a guard is to set things up for others, to keep the ball from coming into the paint if possible on D and to feed the ball more evenly to your taller guys, to get the assists, as well as score when the opportunity arrives. I don't give two craps about his heart. I want to know if the guy got the others into the game and still, I have asked abotu that free throw. No one's responded to it yet! Why not? It is monumental to who he is or is supposed to be. He did not live up to who he is supposed to be. Guys like Kobe, Iverson, Wade, Carmelo, LeBron get they're 30 to 40, and get those assists in. That says a lot. It's not the first time starbury has shown this. The point I'm making is, I don't want him to carry the team on his back. No one asked him to. He's not capable of that. What I want is the man to get his teammates involve in the offense here. I don't see it in the stats, even though I didn't see the game. But like I said, it is typical of his style of play. We don't need starbury to step up and take over the damn game. We need him to step up and set his players up to score, and score as well also. If I have seen about 30 points from starbury and if he had about six or seven assists, then I'd say he did good as a team player. I woud be able to see that. I know it's not his teammates fault, because of the very low turnovers we had. When Crawford and Francis are in the game, I/we don't see this happen. It doesn't mean we win those games either, but it's more about the principle of what I am saying. When I see everything being about starbury, how he carried the team' then I don't buy it. He does not impress me at all. I'd still like to hear about the 'key missed free throw'. Anyone care to explain why the great 'played his heart out' did not convert when it really counted, when we really needed it? It's not the first time folks. Wake up and smell the coffee! Stop fooling yourselves.
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3/8/2007  7:55 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

4949 is just randomly saying nonsense. He didn't even see the game. You can't comment on a game you did not see.

So what's the point of this thread? To start trouble? Nobody on here is a bandwagon steph fan. The guy has come alive for our team and he is getting credit for it. Not much to say about that.

You would think we were talking about channing.

You lucky I'm not a moderator cuz I would have banned you for the nonsense you are trying to start. This aint realgm.


I was expecting something like you to show up. Talk about nonsense! Everyone here has they're own opionions and can choose between what I'm saying and what they think. Fire away bro.

What happened on that free throw? Why is it so hard to mention it? How come you don't want to talk about the missed free throw? I mean not one of you want to talk about the missed free throw! You want to talk about how you watched the game and how he poured his heart out, out there and how he scored all of those points, but you refuse, all of you refuse to talk about the missed free throw! I'm not the one who's crazy here! Talk about the damn free throw, otherwise I'll think your in total denial!
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3/8/2007  7:57 PM
If he's going to be the leader on the floor, if he's going to score all of the points, then I want to see him win the game, especially when he has a chance.
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3/8/2007  7:59 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

You can't comment on a game you did not see.

Says who?

Stop me!
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3/8/2007  8:15 PM
Look what LeBron just did. 41 points, 8 assists and 7 rebounds. Got his whole team involved at the same time too and even won the game!
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3/8/2007  8:32 PM
4949 wants to talk about a missed free throw in a game he never saw.

In response to him and this free throw? I think everyone is bummed about it but let the free throw thing go cuz if it weren't for marbs the knicks wouldn't have even been in the game to begin with. Knicks miss craws scoring and marbs has been stepping up. Passing to teamates? Sure but the rest of the team was flat and marbs was the only one stepping up. Is that his fault? Maybe but how would you know if you didn't see the game.

The rest of the board seems to be ignoring this thread. How bout a lock?
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3/8/2007  8:37 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

4949 wants to talk about a missed free throw in a game he never saw.

In response to him and this free throw? I think everyone is bummed about it but let the free throw thing go cuz if it weren't for marbs the knicks wouldn't have even been in the game to begin with. Knicks miss craws scoring and marbs has been stepping up. Passing to teamates? Sure but the rest of the team was flat and marbs was the only one stepping up. Is that his fault? Maybe but how would you know if you didn't see the game.

The rest of the board seems to be ignoring this thread. How bout a lock?

One more response before the lock, if that's' the way it's going to be!

Keep it up and I might not watch anymore games and comment, comment, comment on everything. You'll love that! No need to get funny about whether I watched the game or not. I guess reading about it isn't good enough. Should I discredit anyone who comes here, having read about something regarding the Knicks? I dont think that would be fair. I just wanted to see someone face up to the missed free throw. You said your bummed. Good.
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3/8/2007  11:33 PM
Ooooookkkkaaaay......
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3/9/2007  1:29 AM
I guess reading about it isn't good enough.

Definitely the most accurate statement you've made on this thread.

oohah

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3/9/2007  10:01 AM
Posted by 4949:

Sorry, I'm calm now. I just don't know man. Three assists, in forty plus minutes? A few people around here make the assumption that when starbury tried to feed the ball inside, the others failed to execute. If that is true, then why doesn't it happen with Crawford, or Francis. I don't see them scoring 40 points, and close to no assists. They distribute the ball pretty good themselves. Besides, the issue isn't wether he played his heart out. The point is, did he really get his teamates involved? Based on what I saw from him in the past, I'd have to say no way.

you're really talking out of your butt here though (not trying to offend you, but it's true)... if you had watched the game, you'd know that Marbury was passing the ball off early to Channing, & he was taking the shots, but then he missed a few & refused to take any more every time the ball swung to him & he was left wide open... u can't possibly blame Marbury for that if the guys he's passing off to refuse to take the shot, or are incapable of making them, as in Jefferies & Balkman's case.

you just admitted that you're basing your comments based on what you'd seen from Marbury in the past... i completely agree that in the past, Marbury has looked to get his own shots off before getting his teammates involved... that's been his M.O. & i haven't liked it either... but this year he's been looking to get his teammates involved, & when he's had to, he's taken over & made some huge shots in some games, just like he did in this game... i'd blame the loss on Jefferies, Frye, or even Curry way before i blamed it on Steph... trust me, if Marbury hadn't played the way he did that game, they woulda lost in a blowout easily... the game had that type of feel to it, there was just no energy on the floor other than Marbury & Malik Rose.
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3/9/2007  11:32 AM
This thread is 100% like that SportsCenter commercial. Where the guy and his wife are talking to the camera and it looks like an ad for a male sexual enhancement product but its really about the guy saying nonsensical things about sports and his cure... watching SportsCenter.

4949, you've been talking sports outta your err... 'lack of information' again.
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3/10/2007  5:07 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:

Sorry, I'm calm now. I just don't know man. Three assists, in forty plus minutes? A few people around here make the assumption that when starbury tried to feed the ball inside, the others failed to execute. If that is true, then why doesn't it happen with Crawford, or Francis. I don't see them scoring 40 points, and close to no assists. They distribute the ball pretty good themselves. Besides, the issue isn't wether he played his heart out. The point is, did he really get his teamates involved? Based on what I saw from him in the past, I'd have to say no way.

you're really talking out of your butt here though (not trying to offend you, but it's true)... if you had watched the game, you'd know that Marbury was passing the ball off early to Channing, & he was taking the shots, but then he missed a few & refused to take any more every time the ball swung to him & he was left wide open... u can't possibly blame Marbury for that if the guys he's passing off to refuse to take the shot, or are incapable of making them, as in Jefferies & Balkman's case.

you just admitted that you're basing your comments based on what you'd seen from Marbury in the past... i completely agree that in the past, Marbury has looked to get his own shots off before getting his teammates involved... that's been his M.O. & i haven't liked it either... but this year he's been looking to get his teammates involved, & when he's had to, he's taken over & made some huge shots in some games, just like he did in this game... i'd blame the loss on Jefferies, Frye, or even Curry way before i blamed it on Steph... trust me, if Marbury hadn't played the way he did that game, they woulda lost in a blowout easily... the game had that type of feel to it, there was just no energy on the floor other than Marbury & Malik Rose.

I hate to keep harping on this, but don't get me wrong guys. I have seen a number of the games this season, and I base what I say about starbury on what I still see from this guys play. It's consistent. For me, it's not about how hard he tried. It's about his continuing to try and take over a game by himself. Granted, he hasn't had much of a chance to do that this year, because Crawford for the most part has been in there. I would even add Nate as a better team player also (although I dissagree with his show off body language at times). It just seems that when all of the guards are in the game, taking turns, and it's not starbury running the floor by himself, the distribution of points and play seem to flow better. Even Curry seems to play a better offensive game. I just feel that when I see starbury with 40 + points and few assists, then I can say that 'I seen that before'. That's one thing. But to have the chance to hit just one more free throw, to at least tie it, when it counted the most? It's just too damn much for me to even listen to the praise for this guy. That's my argument towards him. I used to support the guy, because he tried so hard, up until a couple of seasons ago, because the potential was always just too short. Thomas's picking him up and paying him a ton of money has failed. So it just doesn't matter anymore to me, because it hasn't made a huge difference. Like I said, if you want to be entertained, then watch him play his game. If you want to call him a hero, I'll show you two moons in the sky. You all know were I stand.
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3/10/2007  5:11 PM
Posted by kam77:

This thread is 100% like that SportsCenter commercial. Where the guy and his wife are talking to the camera and it looks like an ad for a male sexual enhancement product but its really about the guy saying nonsensical things about sports and his cure... watching SportsCenter.

4949, you've been talking sports outta your err... 'lack of information' again.

The true lack of information is the fact that you don't even know who your talking too. I came to make a point about Mr. lack of talent. The fact is, myself and a few others are the only ones who get it!
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