OT: Is hip-hop ending?
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30099 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
3/5/2007 2:46 PM
Hip hop will never die. Hip hop is just to important to to many peoples lives. Rap though has fallen off badly. Its sad because its so powerful that if it was used to promote positive or even if they didn't promote positive at least educate younger kids who all listen with history or current events in the world and try and put in positive messages. Rather than drugs, murder, guns, hoes, money, every song. It would change the culture and influence the minds of a lot of young kids for the better. Thats why I respect Naz alot he spits a lot of knowledge in his rhymes, very down to earth, dude(I met him). 2-pac use be that man who would spit a lot of knowledge with songs like "Keep your head up", "brenda's got a baby", "dear moma", but when he died that died. And all the upcomming MCs that 2pac influenced only took the negative side that 2pac had in his image rather than the postive he had when he was spiting knowledge. The MC papoose sometimes spits a lot of knowledge to on subjects sometimes but hasn't been outspoken enough to really demand the attention that 2pac did. I like Kanye West even though he is a character he makes pretty good music.
Rap is being used the wrong way. Rather than being used to teach and educate to make a better society. Its used to promote ignorance to make society worse because they are only out for money. And they don't even realize that they are making lives worse for kids rather than better or they just don't care as long as there getting paid. Its one thing to talk about your experiences being poor and having to do what you got to do to help feed your family if you choose the path of selling drugs or things like that. But don't sell it to kids like its so great and hype it up like its the thing to do. If your an MC and you came from that environment you should be inspiring kids and people to go a different route. Eminem should make more alblums if he does any more and spit more knowledge and teach more politics, and issues like that. He has probably the strongest voice in rap. Mcs get so much power since they have the ears of so many people. But yet very few do anything positive with it anymore. They get there money and thats it. Nobody wants to take on the responsibility. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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nyk4ever
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3/5/2007 2:49 PM
Posted by Elite: I'm gonna check that out man. Huge D'Block fan, been waiting for a new album for awhile. Still waiting for J-Hood album... "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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TMS
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3/5/2007 2:54 PM
Posted by K22:Posted by TMS: now THAT was hot... love that video too... lol. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Cookdcokehop
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3/5/2007 3:12 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork: Look at Lupe fiasco, Nas, and Common last album sales and see if ppl want that concious hip hop. People love violence (i.e. 50 cent astronomiacal album sales). This phase is becoming played out now. To revitalize hip hop rappers need to think out the box and do some new **** ala down south artist. Even tho i dont like music from the south, it's different and people like change. The world is changing everyday, so rap nbeeds to evolve and sales will rise again. |
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nyk4ever
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3/5/2007 3:15 PM
your beats is banging, your hooks did it, your lyrics didn't, your gangster look did it
-JayZ "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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TMS
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3/5/2007 3:29 PM
i think they need to go back to the roots of it all & start cooking up some raw, old school type rhymes the way Sugar Hill, Kane, Flash & Rakim used to do it... that is the stuff that got me into rap in the first place... cut down on some of the gratuitous profanity, self aggrandizing & typical wannabe gangsta stuff, & start relating more of the narrative of real urban street life & social commentary... enough with the typical "look at all this bling i got" type crap... all that stuff is just a buncha empty lyrics slapped together that rhymes... doesn't take much talent to come up with it & it's so played at this point... there aren't really many great rap lyric writers left anymore now that Pac & B.I.G. are gone, & WuTang hasn't come up with any new stuff in a while, & the ones that are around are more underground & out of the mainstream.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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bobs3304
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3/5/2007 3:42 PM
If Nas says it than it is so...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure.
And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30099 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
3/5/2007 3:51 PM
Look at Lupe fiasco, Nas, and Common last album sales and see if ppl want that concious hip hop. People love violence (i.e. 50 cent astronomiacal album sales). This phase is becoming played out now. To revitalize hip hop rappers need to think out the box and do some new **** ala down south artist. Even tho i dont like music from the south, it's different and people like change. The world is changing everyday, so rap nbeeds to evolve and sales will rise again. Nobody wants to hear that drugs & murder stuff anymore either. The only thing that can really sell are club bangers. 50 cent sells so much because he is excellent at making catchy hooks and he is a very slick rapper. And the fact that he signed with Em's camp. Signing with Em's camp allowed him to get the attraction across seas that its hard for other MCs to get. Em got him that overseas exposure since Em being white was able to attract white european fans while most black artist will have trouble with that. Especially if they come off toooo hood. If you look at just his american sells his #s are not that crazy. He wouldn't sell as much if he wasn't teammed up with Em. But 50 cent definatly has a lot of power to. If he would use that power to try and educate, teach, and inspire but put his type of twist to it. He would do a lot of good, he is the type of personality that people will allways listen to. [Edited by - newyorknewyork on 03-05-2007 3:53 PM] [Edited by - newyorknewyork on 03-05-2007 3:54 PM] https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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eViL
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3/5/2007 4:32 PM
Posted by TMS: Ghostface came correct with Fishscale. Check that out if you haven't already. check out my latest hip hop project: https://soundcloud.com/michaelcro http://youtu.be/scNXshrpyZo
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nyk4ever
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3/5/2007 4:35 PM
Posted by eViL:Posted by TMS: The Pretty Toney Album was very good too, atleast I thought so. "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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eViL
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3/5/2007 4:46 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:Posted by eViL:Posted by TMS: As far as I'm concerned -- Ghost's solo releases have been the most consistently good music to come from Wu. I like every one of his CD's. Here's how I rank 'em. 1) Supreme Clientele 2) Iron Man 3) Fishscale 4) Pretty Toney 5) Bulletproof Wallets Anyway, Method Man's new CD was kinda hot too. He's got a dope track with Redman on it. Wu is coming with a new album soon. And I'm sure it'll be dope. It's about time they get the full crew (ODB RIP) back together. check out my latest hip hop project: https://soundcloud.com/michaelcro http://youtu.be/scNXshrpyZo
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TMS
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3/5/2007 5:00 PM
thanks eViL, i'll definitely check that out... haven't been up to date on my hiphop stuff these days cuz all the stuff i hear on the radio is whack.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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BigC
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3/5/2007 5:04 PM
Posted by eViL:Posted by nyk4ever:Posted by eViL:Posted by TMS: I guess you haven't heard Ghostface More Fish album? It came out in December. [Edited by - BigC on 03-05-2007 5:05 PM] BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks
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BigC
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3/5/2007 5:07 PM
Hip Hop will never die to me as long as the Roots, Common, Kweli, Nas, Ghost keep and the underground keep on making albums.
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DarkKnicks
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3/5/2007 5:09 PM
I dont like rap nor hip-hop at all (I'm into metal and rock), but kind of things just happen. Metal was incredibly popular in the 80's and then dissapeared. There will always be good hip-hop or metal bands, it is just that they wont become so famous and you'll have to discover them by yourselves.
BTW, if cd's were cheaper I would buy a whole lot more of them! |
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eViL
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3/5/2007 5:15 PM
Posted by BigC:Posted by eViL:Posted by nyk4ever:Posted by eViL:Posted by TMS: I have it, it's hot -- I guess I kinda just lumped that into Fishscale. [Edited by - eViL on 03-05-2007 5:16 PM] check out my latest hip hop project: https://soundcloud.com/michaelcro http://youtu.be/scNXshrpyZo
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BigC
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3/5/2007 5:17 PM
Posted by eViL:Posted by BigC:Posted by eViL:Posted by nyk4ever:Posted by eViL:Posted by TMS: I was at a store the other day and can you believe that Redman has a new album? He has no promotion at all. BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks
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OT: Is hip-hop ending?