We have FIVE 1st rd picks of our own, plus we've traded for other guys who are 1st rounders. I don't think we have a problem in that regard. Nothing's really changed since the beginning of this season. We came in looking to establish an identity and a base to start from and so far we've been doing that. Now after a season played we can better evaluate what we need to change in order to take the next step. it's seems there's too much panic and knee jerk reaction to recent events. This team is doing about what everyone expected of it. So why are we changing the process?

Crawford - 27 this month
RIchardson - 27 next month
Jared - 25
Curry - 24
Frye - 23
Lee - 23
Balkman - 22
Nate - 22
Collins - 22

That's 9 players we can still develop some more and move into the future with. Now after the season we look to draft for our need and hopefully Isiah can make a solid deal for another player. We also have the MLE, so there's still opportunity to address the teams needs.

We have FIVE 1st rd picks of our own

Over what, the next fifteen years?

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by Bonn1997:

We have FIVE 1st rd picks of our own

Over what, the next fifteen years?

ZING!

Everything is hopeless. That's great for the ratings.

Posted by joec32033:



Wut? Did you read djsu's thread. There is a possibility that we don't have a first round pick 'til 2009. Not the best situation for a rebuilding team.

Either way, it was a good zinger.

I think the only way we don't have a first round pick this season is if Isiah offers it to the jazz.

Posted by joec32033:



No way. The Jazz on't have any albatrosses they have to get rid of

All honesty, I don't know if Isiah realizes that when you start taking on all of the worst contracts in the league eventually there will be none left to trade for so you can get rid of the ones you already got.

thats not what I meant but nevermind.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by Bonn1997:

[quote]We have FIVE 1st rd picks of our own

Over what, the next fifteen years?

ZING!

I was speaking of players we've already drafted in the last two years!!!! GEEZ pay some freakin attention.

Frye, Nate, Lee, Balkman and Collins.


The grades on these picks so far comes in as a b-.

we don't have cap room or desirable players--the only way to become a player for a big time player is either sck enough to get a high pick--have cap room--ending contracts[has been brutal and expensive] cap room, OR a multitude of young plyers that are deemed tradeable. I'm not a proponent of the MLE unless the *right* player is there. We can be saddled year after year by 30mm$ contracts for players no one else wants.

Posted by Michael6835:

it is what it is, building through the draft never works unless you are lucky as hell, ala the orlando magic in the 90s.

They drafted Shaq and Penny year after year, thats how you work the draft. But then what skill does the GM have in that, they got lucky with lottery balls. Spurs, got the luck of drafting Duncan, the bulls had tons of drafts and it didn't work out for them. As a matter of fact, how funny is it for the Bulls, the two guys the Bulls drafted Chandler and Curry are having breakout years. More importantly, put Curry and Chandler on that team now, and they have a serious squad.

We've been able to re-stock through the draft quite well. We've been able to acquire a LOT of high-priced vets[and we still have them for 2-3 years]
imho I would get Balkman and Collins[after a summer filled with shooting 100 times a day] into bigger roles and continue to rebuild the next two players through the draft.

If we are looking at

C-Curry
F-Frye
F Jefferies/Balkman?
G Crawford
G Marbury
C-Lee
F Balkman
F Q Rich
G Francis
G Collins

out Cato Malik Rose Nate

In
G Morris Almond
F Herbert Hill

vet Chucky Atkins 3 years 10mm

We obviously need a scorer from the 2G because of the risk associated with Q-Rich and Steve F--Morris Almond
We do need another big who can score, block shots and can step right in. I like Sean Williams, but the charahcter issue is starting to prod it's way in there--I'd have to wait and see. If we can afford to buy 1 of the later Phoenix picks--Hill has to be the most under-rated player in the country. He can block shots from the 4 position and he has great moves--very polished nwith long arms and he varies from Frye because he is primarily a post scorer and is real good in up tempo.
Atkins===shooter who can play PG a battle-tested vet who we can get for cheap and we need the insurance.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-05-2007 4:40 PM]

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 03-05-2007 5:40 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

So in other words you want a new owner and a new GM who are willing to genuinely rebuild. That should be very easy!

how does that response fit w/BRIGGS' post when most of that roster was put together by the guy you think isn't willing to genuinely rebuild in the first place?

Posted by Anji:

Don't know who Hilbert Hill is, but Alomnds looks pretty good to me. He might even beable to play the 3. I would trade frye in an attemp to draft Acie Law though...............

Herbert Hill is a power forward for Providence who has primarily been a back up--first to Ryan Gomes--then to Randall Hanke. Hanke was injured for the year, so Hill has played the C/F post and really has been drastically under-rated. I would say a similar player is David West for the pros--but Hill can block shots as well. He's VERY long, skilled and has very good athletic ability for 6-10.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/players/30137

As i've said many times, Isiah HAS already rebuilt the team thru the draft and I believe he'll continue to do that. He's also added some other youngish players that we can build with. I don't understand how it is that so few Knick fans recognize all the 1st rd picks we've already added to this team. We've got a lot of 1st rd. talent on this team, thru our own picks, FA signings and trades. I'm sure Isiah will continue to do that so what's the problem?