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Rich
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2/26/2007  10:54 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

Oh please, when he began his streak of 20 pt games, a lot of people here were saying it wouldn't last.

I'd trade Ty Thomas for Curry in a heartbeat. Who they give up this year will be determinative on the trade.

You do understand that the Knicks didn't have to take Thomas just because the Bulls selected him.

I would have taken Brandon Roy. If another player of his caliber is available, not just Oden and Durant, where the Knicks would have picked this year then this trade is an abomination.

I'd take Curry over Roy.

They must have changed the meaning of the word abomination since I last looked it up.
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islesfan
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2/26/2007  11:09 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

Oh please, when he began his streak of 20 pt games, a lot of people here were saying it wouldn't last.

I'd trade Ty Thomas for Curry in a heartbeat. Who they give up this year will be determinative on the trade.

You do understand that the Knicks didn't have to take Thomas just because the Bulls selected him.

I would have taken Brandon Roy. If another player of his caliber is available, not just Oden and Durant, where the Knicks would have picked this year then this trade is an abomination.

I'd take Curry over Roy.

They must have changed the meaning of the word abomination since I last looked it up.

A 7th year player over a rookie? Yeah maybe.

Curry: 19.5 pts 7 rebs 0.8 asts .45 stls .54 blks 3.41 TO

Roy: 15.8 pts 4 rebs 3.7 asts 1.24 stls .19 blks 1.76 TO

On second thought, it's a lot closer than you think. Chances are a 7th year player isn't going to improve nearly as much as a rookie, right?

Now if they could have gotten another player like that with the pick the Bulls have, it would be a complete abomination.

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-26-2007 11:11 PM]

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-26-2007 11:13 PM]
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Rich
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2/26/2007  11:27 PM
Oh OK, I'll take the inferior player in Roy.
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2/26/2007  11:29 PM
Inferior? Roy does everything better already except low post scoring. In year 1, Roy's gonna get ROY. In year 6, Curry hasn't won anything individually or team-wise.
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2/26/2007  11:30 PM
Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.
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2/26/2007  11:32 PM
I don't know, Rich. I really dont think Roy is the inferior player. This isn't a dig at Curry, I just think Roy is going to be a very special player in this league. He can shoot, he score at a high clip, he can board, he can pass, he plays defense. The guy is a special special player.
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2/26/2007  11:32 PM
I think Curry is a special player too. Low post monsters are incredibly rare.
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2/26/2007  11:34 PM
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?
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2/26/2007  11:36 PM
What Curry does is something title contenders are built around. That's all you need to know about the difference. Unless you're talking about Jordan, MOST of the Championship teams have had either a bigtime inside scorer or defender. Curry is becoming a dominant inside player and those don't grow on trees. I like Roy, but if I had the choice i'd choose Curry everytime. There are many good perimeter players in the league and only a handful of truly dominant inside players.
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2/26/2007  11:37 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
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2/26/2007  11:37 PM
Posted by Rich:

I think Curry is a special player too. Low post monsters are incredibly rare.

I agree about Curry, he's a very special offensive monster but there is much speculation and almost the expectation(by some posters on this forum) that he will be a better defensive player. I'm not ready to say that yet, not at all. I don't have the same doubts about Roy, he's a wonderful all-around player and someone who will likely put up 25/6.5/6 and throw in some very good defense throughout his prime. I still don't know if I can say that about Curry other than scoring, but hey, to each his own.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 02-26-2007 11:38 PM]
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2/26/2007  11:39 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.
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2/26/2007  11:41 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

Oh please, when he began his streak of 20 pt games, a lot of people here were saying it wouldn't last.

I'd trade Ty Thomas for Curry in a heartbeat. Who they give up this year will be determinative on the trade.

You do understand that the Knicks didn't have to take Thomas just because the Bulls selected him.

I would have taken Brandon Roy. If another player of his caliber is available, not just Oden and Durant, where the Knicks would have picked this year then this trade is an abomination.

I'd take Curry over Roy.

They must have changed the meaning of the word abomination since I last looked it up.

A 7th year player over a rookie? Yeah maybe.

Curry: 19.5 pts 7 rebs 0.8 asts .45 stls .54 blks 3.41 TO

Roy: 15.8 pts 4 rebs 3.7 asts 1.24 stls .19 blks 1.76 TO

On second thought, it's a lot closer than you think. Chances are a 7th year player isn't going to improve nearly as much as a rookie, right?

Now if they could have gotten another player like that with the pick the Bulls have, it would be a complete abomination.

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-26-2007 11:11 PM]

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-26-2007 11:13 PM]

Yeah but can Roy dominate Shaq and Mourning in the same game...Is Roy always being double and triple teamed...Do teams game plan for Roy or will they ever...Curry can be a monster at times... His challenge is to do it on a daily basis...Denying his improvement as a player is silly at this point..
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2/26/2007  11:41 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.
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2/26/2007  11:42 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

He only had 1 yr of supposed poor coaching but it doesn't nullify his previous seasons before that when he had good coaching.
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2/26/2007  11:46 PM

After seeing Curry this year..Aren't you wondering what Skiles was doing the last three seasons with Curry?..But you call it good coaching...



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2/26/2007  11:46 PM
Posted by Rich:

Oh OK, I'll take the inferior player in Roy.

Inferior player? Debatable. The better scorer right now is obviously Curry but I think it's only a matter of time before Roy passes him. It is his rookie year you know. But as a player, Roy is a much better all around player than Curry is. He plays defense so right there that separates him from Curry. On offense Roy can pass and turns the ball over far less. Plus he doesn't need to have others set him up for gimmes. He can create his own shot.

But like I said, it's debatable. If you want to say that this so-called franchise player is better than a rookie with 37 career games under his belt, that's fine. But I believe that in a few years Roy will be a much better player than Curry will ever be. If a player with Roy's upside is available with the Knicks pick, this trade will look even worse, if that's possible, within 3 years.
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2/26/2007  11:46 PM
I don't care what kind of coaching Curry had before. THIS is the staff that has been able to help him get better, so in my book they're the BEST staff he's had. They've been able to get thru to him. Soon you doubters won't be able to deny his growth. As he continues to improve in all facets of his game. You'll see. But just keep hatin, instead of getting behind our 1st true bigman since Ewing. You'll be the ones with egg on your faces as we'll be able to remind you of how long it took for you to come around and see what he means to this franchise.
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2/26/2007  11:49 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Because he had poor coaching, as we have learned this season.

So yeah, inferior.


LMFAO why are Deng, Gordon, and Nocioni considered very good players under the same coaching staff Curry had?

Yet Curry has turned his game around under the present Knick staff.

LMFAO at you.
Let's not get crazy with words like "turned his game around." He's averaging THREE more points a game in seven more minutes on a team that will probably win ten less games than he did in his contract year.

Basketball isn't baseball. It's not merely about stats, it's about roles. Eddy is the go to guy on this team. That's a big responsibility that he has never had to shoulder before, and he has adjusted well to it.

Curry is THE go to guy??? So where was he in the 4th quarter of the Nets game?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/26/2007  11:52 PM
Posted by holfresh:


After seeing Curry this year..Aren't you wondering what Skiles was doing the last three seasons with Curry?..But you call it good coaching...





Once again if he was a poor coach there is now way he would be able to get a team who has absolutely no post scoring to the playoff 2yrs in a row primarily using players with 3yrs or less NBA experience.

Skiles wasn't going to put up with Curry's lazy ways and cater to him.

You NITWITS are hilarious.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-26-2007 10:53 PM]
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