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djsunyc
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wade may be out the season. kidd has a fractured rib and rj's a month away. orlando is slipping. we are at a relatively easy part of our schedule things are VERY fortuitous for us right now. would it be dissapointing if we don't make the playoffs this year?
yes, it'll be dissapointing
no, playoffs aren't important
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bigbeast
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2/23/2007  11:42 AM
Posted by Andrew:

You can't be disappointed if you have no expectations of playoffs.

Not necessarily. I agree, comming into the yr, I didn't expect a playoff birth. But I also expected the Nets and Heat to be 2 of the top 4 teams in the east aswell. One is barely clinging to the 8th spot and the other is on the outside looking in. And with the rash of injuries to other teams in the east, you would expect the Knicks to be cloere in contetnion than they are at this point.
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2/23/2007  12:01 PM
I voted no, although everyone who roots for the Knicks to win every game and wants to make the playoffs will feel a little dissapointment, I'm not going to make a huge deal out of it. The win total hitting 41 or more would be a bigger acheivement in my eyes, even if we don't make the final eight.
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djsunyc
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2/23/2007  12:01 PM
Posted by kam77:

I voted no, although everyone who roots for the Knicks to win every game and wants to make the playoffs will feel a little dissapointment, I'm not going to make a huge deal out of it. The win total hitting 41 or more would be a bigger acheivement in my eyes, even if we don't make the final eight.

what if they win 36 and make the final eight?
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2/23/2007  12:09 PM
I think winning 36 is like the bare minimum we should accept from this team. My preseason prediction was 38, hoping we'd win more but trying to stay realistic.

If they can only manage to win 36 and yet STILL make the playoffs, I wouldn't throw anyone any ticker-tape parades. You blame the conference being weak in that case. Likewise, if winning 39 games isn't enough to make the playoffs, so be it, i'm not going to be majorly dissapointed.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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2/23/2007  12:12 PM
It's not dissapointing...
It's expected.
Why to have false expectations and than be dissapointed?
Better to expect nothing and be glad if you get at least something
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2/23/2007  12:15 PM
^^^ Vince Vaughn - Wedding Crasher
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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2/23/2007  12:27 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Toronto has been impressive, but they've also been fortunate, which is part of the equation. They've done a MUCH better job of taking advantage of the weak teams on the schedule. The Knicks have to make that final shift in mental approach. The Raps also have the advantage of being under their coach longer and he's more focused on what he needs to do with his roster than Isiah is. isiah is still trying to figure this team out. The Knicks are still trying to figure themselves out.

I don't feel that the Raps are really that much better in the long run. They are just ahead of us in terms of team development. It didn't hurt that they got some foreign players with more experience playing the game. The foregin system lends itself to players who better prepared for the pros in terms of team play. We all know our players are somewhat dumb basketball wise. isiah has been fighting that all year. Witness our AWFUL TO rate. Toronto is simply more proficient and consistent with what they do. Kudos to them for putting together a well balanced team.


LMFAO @ you.


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How many games have the Knicks played in total without their Top 3 players? Not Many SON!



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2/23/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by Andrew:

You can't be disappointed if you have no expectations of playoffs.

that's my point... a lot of the people who say they'd be disappointed were not expecting this team to make the playoffs this year to begin with... they talk about the lowering of expectations by some of the so-called "Lovers" on this forum, but i have noticed the exact opposite... the fact that some people who think this team stinks & have no business being a contender this year would still be upset if they didn't make it to the playoffs is hypocritical.
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2/23/2007  12:37 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Andrew:

You can't be disappointed if you have no expectations of playoffs.

that's my point... a lot of the people who say they'd be disappointed were not expecting this team to make the playoffs this year to begin with... they talk about the lowering of expectations by some of the so-called "Lovers" on this forum, but i have noticed the exact opposite... the fact that some people who think this team stinks & have no business being a contender this year would still be upset if they didn't make it to the playoffs is hypocritical.


ahh, its so nice to have someone point this out.
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2/23/2007  1:41 PM
Especially disappointing
Why ? Because it is past the all-star break, the team is much better than they started and all of last year. We know they are good enough to make the playoffs. The reasons you list are even more reasons why they should get in. But not only get in by sneaking in, but convincingly. In the beginning of the season, I was like give them time to gel, if they won one, lost one it was ok, because they were still "gelling" but that time has past. Time for them to put up or shut up. They want the respect, Eddie feels slighted, this is where they show it. Steph wants to prove he still has it, now is when he proves it. Frye wants to prove he isn't soft, do it now. The team gets no more free passes from me for the rest of the season.
It's there for the taking, even the Atlantic Div is still within reach, they just have to have the balls to take it and LEAVE IT ON THE FLOOR. The time is now. This is the freaking speech IT needs to be yelling in the locker room at every halftime until the end of the season. Some one needs to step up big time, who will it be ? Maybe DLEE!
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2/23/2007  2:16 PM
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TMS
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2/23/2007  2:20 PM
is that Stephon & Channing in the background giggling?
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2/23/2007  3:13 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Andrew:

You can't be disappointed if you have no expectations of playoffs.

that's my point... a lot of the people who say they'd be disappointed were not expecting this team to make the playoffs this year to begin with... they talk about the lowering of expectations by some of the so-called "Lovers" on this forum, but i have noticed the exact opposite... the fact that some people who think this team stinks & have no business being a contender this year would still be upset if they didn't make it to the playoffs is hypocritical.


That only pertains to those who look at this team with a Short-Term goal in mind. Those who look at it from a Big Picture, Tenure, Rebuilding\Foundation Towards a Brighter Future look at not making the playoffs as a disappointment because it shows no signs of a turnaround.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-23-2007 4:53 PM]
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really, what does a meaningless squeaking into a #8 seed by the skin of your teeth prove to anyone other than the fact that the East was pitifully bad this year? the onus needs to be on the development of the young guys, not on trying to get into the playoffs with a 36-38 W season. if they can get into the postseason, that's a bonus... it will do them well to get some playoff experience, no matter how badly they may get beaten by a much better Pistons squad... but to lay your expectations on that is just setting yourself up to be badly disappointed later when they get their butts kicked in the 1st round, which is more than likely to happen.
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2/23/2007  5:12 PM
I'll take the 8th seed to get some of these kids into the playoffs, most of them have not even been there and could use the experience.....

also i would like to take any risk out of the equation by not being in the lottery
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2/23/2007  8:15 PM
Posted by TMS:

really, what does a meaningless squeaking into a #8 seed by the skin of your teeth prove to anyone other than the fact that the East was pitifully bad this year? the onus needs to be on the development of the young guys, not on trying to get into the playoffs with a 36-38 W season. if they can get into the postseason, that's a bonus... it will do them well to get some playoff experience, no matter how badly they may get beaten by a much better Pistons squad... but to lay your expectations on that is just setting yourself up to be badly disappointed later when they get their butts kicked in the 1st round, which is more than likely to happen.


And what good did that experience do for Frank Williams(he's out of the league) Sweetney he's still fat and out of shape and Demarr Johnson?
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