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mythfaze
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2/11/2007  12:33 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by mythfaze:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by bobs3304:

Ya mean like those 8 times when he turned the ball over?

Sh it happens.

Yeah, on the daily. EC is averaging about 3.5 TO per game.

I still think he is on track to being one of the best players in the game.

If he can start pulling the rest of his game together, yes. The turnovers aren't as big of a deal if he can start doing things other than scoring. Shaq has averaged about 3 TO per for his career, but he blocks shots, rebounds and is a good passer and defender.
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2/11/2007  12:45 AM
C'mon guys, lets not go all UK-Mafia here. You can't stop a guy from rooting against the team he claims to support by yelling at him, so let it go.

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2/11/2007  12:46 AM
According to you anyone on any team other than the Knicks>>>>any Knicks players. Why don't you go over to another board of the team you pull for?
Posted by TrueBlue:

Well after watching tonight's game, looking at this game only and not their body of work, final conclusion.....

Memet Okur>>>>>>>>Curry


On second thought looking at their body of work Okur>>>>>>>>>>Curry.
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2/11/2007  12:50 AM
I don't get you guys. I'm not defending True, but why should he be vilified like you guys vilify him? I'm not speaking for True, but I'm sure he liked the Knicks well before this team was put together and he probably doesn't like the direction and the players this team has taken and added. That makes him a non-fan? Please..
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2/11/2007  12:54 AM
Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.
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2/11/2007  12:59 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.

Dominant post players are one of the rarest commodities in the NBA.
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2/11/2007  1:17 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.

Dominant post players are one of the rarest commodities in the NBA.

But why is it so wrong to suggest choosing a player who puts up roughly as many points but contributes to more aspects of the game?
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2/11/2007  1:42 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.

Dominant post players are one of the rarest commodities in the NBA.
Eddy is a scorer. NOT a dominant post player.

He's a better scorer than Okur. The rest is a wash

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2/11/2007  1:46 AM
I remember Okur DUCKING to get out of the way of Marbury's game winning lay-up at MSG. I hope no one is actually suggesting he's a better defensive presence.

I swear, the whining after a loss.
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2/11/2007  1:47 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

I remember Okur DUCKING to get out of the way of Marbury's game winning lay-up at MSG. I hope no one is actually suggesting he's a better defensive presence.

I swear, the whining after a loss.

Curry would have been caught underneath the basket too. His own.
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2/11/2007  1:56 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

I remember Okur DUCKING to get out of the way of Marbury's game winning lay-up at MSG. I hope no one is actually suggesting he's a better defensive presence.

I swear, the whining after a loss.

Curry would have been caught underneath the basket too. His own.

touche. the hilarious thing is that the utah beat writers actually COVERED for Okur and wrote in the papers that Marbury made a layup over Okur's outstretched arms.
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2/11/2007  2:00 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

I remember Okur DUCKING to get out of the way of Marbury's game winning lay-up at MSG. I hope no one is actually suggesting he's a better defensive presence.

I swear, the whining after a loss.

Curry would have been caught underneath the basket too. His own.

touche. the hilarious thing is that the utah beat writers actually COVERED for Okur and wrote in the papers that Marbury made a layup over Okur's outstretched arms.

To be fair, Okur looked like a PF/C trying to cover a PG in the opencourt. He got all twisted and couldn't get his body around to contest the shot. I'm not saying he played it well or every correctly but it's a tough play for any PF/C.
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2/11/2007  2:06 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.

Dominant post players are one of the rarest commodities in the NBA.
Eddy is a scorer. NOT a dominant post player.

He's a better scorer than Okur. The rest is a wash

Most of his points don't come in the post?
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2/11/2007  2:06 AM
Being fair, Curry is better.


But Okur is more efficient, and is payed less.
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2/11/2007  5:26 AM
I never liked perimeter oriented big men, and I never will.
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2/11/2007  6:10 AM
Isles noone was giving him grief for comparing Curry to Memo. Granted Curry should be viewed as better, but it is a legit question.

TrueSeats whatever he is called is an ass for his timing. Everyone in the game thread was hanging on to every play, every second and tenth of second. We lost on a last second play, and 3 seconds later this prat (english vernacular for a dickhead) was going on about it doesn't matter the team useless anyway, Deron is a HOF and the crowning glory, Memo is SOOOOOO much better then Curry. Its just a stupid, small-mindedannoying little ass doing stupid, small-minded annoying things. It wasn't even about his opinions, it was the glee with which he posted is little moment of pathetic Knick-beating.

At least you have the good grace to be depressed about the Knicks. He is happy! That's why you get respect and he doesn't. Now I see why BlueSeats demanded he change his screenname.
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2/11/2007  7:23 AM
Posted by bobs3304:

Being fair, Curry is better.


But Okur is more efficient, and is payed less.

More efficient than over 55% from the field?

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2/11/2007  7:23 AM
Posted by joec32033:

I never liked perimeter oriented big men, and I never will.

Dirk?

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2/11/2007  7:31 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Jesus, did True compare Curry to a complete scrub or to a guy who's averaging about 18 and 8 and plays a better all around game?

It's a lot closer than some of you are crying about and I wouldn't begrudge somebody for choosing either. It's certainly far less egregious than picking Curry over Howard.

Dominant post players are one of the rarest commodities in the NBA.

But why is it so wrong to suggest choosing a player who puts up roughly as many points but contributes to more aspects of the game?
I don't think it's wrong either. I was thinking it's very close. I bet the Jazz record would be no better and we'd still be a .400 team if the two players switched jerseys.
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2/11/2007  12:25 PM
Posted by joec32033:

I never liked perimeter oriented big men, and I never will.

yeah i agree, big mens job is to rebound, play defense, alter/block shots, and post up if they can. if they have range, it's an added bonus but you don't make it the primary part of their game. that's not to say there aren't 1 dimensional post players as well (curry certainly is right now) but I'd rather have a guy who can only post up over a guy who can only shoot jumpers, just because he gets higher% shots on average. I feel like we've been stunting frye's growth in all those areas by making him a jump shooter, last year he showed everyone how good he is under the basket and in pick and rolls.
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