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BRIGGS
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2/4/2007  5:42 PM
thats an intimidating frontline a bruising frontline--i think it can work. and i like the fact they mandated frye to move in lee is going to be 12-12 no matter what.
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2/4/2007  5:44 PM
Frye: Skills for the 4, foot speed for the 5.
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2/4/2007  5:55 PM
Posted by holfresh:
I really don't know why you think these guys compare to Frye, 90 percent don't...Most on your list don't have the skill set as Frye...Same hight give or take 2 inches but not the same game...I'm sure you were trying to make a point but I just don't know what???
because they are all comparable to Frye's size. You said he's not big enough to play the position, when he's bigger than a lot of the centers playing today. 6'11 and 250+ is big enough to play center in the NBA. At that to the fact that you cant teach speed, and he doesnt have it to play the 4. Frye has no problem playing physical. When given the chance he's better against guys he can bang a little against. Anyone with any quickness at all he sucks against, because he's afraid to put a hand out and get hit with a foul.

Frye was a center in HS. Frye was a center in college for four years. Frye is a center in the NBA playing out of position at the 4.

When Frye was drafted he said "I'm a center."

I guess I can believe Frye himself, or I can believe holfresh, who is clearly better informed.

Even your lover Isiah admitted it... where do you think he's going to play off the bench? Poing guard?
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2/4/2007  6:00 PM
Posted by 12stepPivot:

I didn't miss that game, and yes that was dramatic and clutch and I cheered and cheered. But, that example is not proof of a consistant performace.

Last night he really pushed himself, he was motivated to try new moves. He gave up a twelve foot jumper to drive to the hoop, that is not typical Frye. I saw him box someone out on a missed second FT, it was awesome, again not typical Frye. He was tough under the boards...etc... and his shot was on.

I'll give you the excitement level of the Piston game was a truly great momement. But, I maintain, last night we saw some glimpses of what _may_ come.

My Fingers are crossed...like I said...I like the guy.

[Edited by - 12stepPivot on 02-04-2007 5:35 PM]

I'm not sure about any new moves..Most of what Frye did last night I have seen him do before..I'm really not trying to be annoying or get into a pissing match...All I want is the Knicks to win..If Lee in the staring lineup does that for us, fine, Lee will be my man...My horse is Frye because I think he has more upside and we are a young team...I disagree with everyone who wants to trade any of the three, Curry,Frye or Lee...They are young and we can watch them grow...It will work itself out ..People here want to give Lee the starting spot at all cost...I want to give it to him if it makes us better....



[Edited by - holfresh on 02-04-2007 6:03 PM]
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2/4/2007  6:23 PM
I've always said since Curry got here that the biggest key to the team's fortunes would be seeing whether Frye and Curry could play together. They can't. outside of a very few instances, it's not working. the defense is horrendous.

I don't think this Jerome/Eddy thing can work against a lot of teams, but it can probably work against some teams. It's a physically intimidating frontline.

But, really, to balance out the team we need to trade Frye for either a pure SF or a pure PG. If Jerome is going to get minutes now, that's good, he can be useful. But Frye (and Jefferies and maybe Nate) needs to go to make the team make more sense.
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2/4/2007  6:31 PM
Ahem, doesn't it seem obvious that Zeke's trying to, I guess this is right word, showcase Mr. James. He's hoping some team with playoff visions, some team that remembers his run from two years ago, will take James off his hands. It's a long shot but it's the only reason I can think of for Zeke suddenly moving James to the top of the rotation. It is that time of year.
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2/4/2007  6:37 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I've always said since Curry got here that the biggest key to the team's fortunes would be seeing whether Frye and Curry could play together. They can't. outside of a very few instances, it's not working. the defense is horrendous.

I don't think this Jerome/Eddy thing can work against a lot of teams, but it can probably work against some teams. It's a physically intimidating frontline.

But, really, to balance out the team we need to trade Frye for either a pure SF or a pure PG. If Jerome is going to get minutes now, that's good, he can be useful. But Frye (and Jefferies and maybe Nate) needs to go to make the team make more sense.

That argument makes no sense to me because Lee as the starting PF will be difficult defensively if not offensively...If you say you are concerned about defense then you can't be ready to see Lee starting next to Curry...Frye is a better post defender...They are both limited defensively...
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2/4/2007  6:44 PM
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2/4/2007  6:46 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
I really don't know why you think these guys compare to Frye, 90 percent don't...Most on your list don't have the skill set as Frye...Same hight give or take 2 inches but not the same game...I'm sure you were trying to make a point but I just don't know what???
because they are all comparable to Frye's size. You said he's not big enough to play the position, when he's bigger than a lot of the centers playing today. 6'11 and 250+ is big enough to play center in the NBA. At that to the fact that you cant teach speed, and he doesnt have it to play the 4. Frye has no problem playing physical. When given the chance he's better against guys he can bang a little against. Anyone with any quickness at all he sucks against, because he's afraid to put a hand out and get hit with a foul.

Frye was a center in HS. Frye was a center in college for four years. Frye is a center in the NBA playing out of position at the 4.

When Frye was drafted he said "I'm a center."

I guess I can believe Frye himself, or I can believe holfresh, who is clearly better informed.

Even your lover Isiah admitted it... where do you think he's going to play off the bench? Poing guard?

I'm pretty sure Duncan, JO'neil, KG, Dirk, etc were all centers on or at every level they played...I'm would bet they thought they would be centers at the NBA level as well...
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2/4/2007  6:58 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
I really don't know why you think these guys compare to Frye, 90 percent don't...Most on your list don't have the skill set as Frye...Same hight give or take 2 inches but not the same game...I'm sure you were trying to make a point but I just don't know what???
because they are all comparable to Frye's size. You said he's not big enough to play the position, when he's bigger than a lot of the centers playing today. 6'11 and 250+ is big enough to play center in the NBA. At that to the fact that you cant teach speed, and he doesnt have it to play the 4. Frye has no problem playing physical. When given the chance he's better against guys he can bang a little against. Anyone with any quickness at all he sucks against, because he's afraid to put a hand out and get hit with a foul.

Frye was a center in HS. Frye was a center in college for four years. Frye is a center in the NBA playing out of position at the 4.

When Frye was drafted he said "I'm a center."

I guess I can believe Frye himself, or I can believe holfresh, who is clearly better informed.

Even your lover Isiah admitted it... where do you think he's going to play off the bench? Poing guard?

I'm pretty sure Duncan, JO'neil, KG, Dirk, etc were all centers on or at every level they played...I'm would bet they thought they would be centers at the NBA level as well...


Frye played center in HS and college. He's probably a center.
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2/4/2007  7:00 PM
Frye may think he's a center, but he all know he's best suited to the point guard position.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 02-04-2007 19:00]
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2/4/2007  7:00 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by holfresh:
I really don't know why you think these guys compare to Frye, 90 percent don't...Most on your list don't have the skill set as Frye...Same hight give or take 2 inches but not the same game...I'm sure you were trying to make a point but I just don't know what???
because they are all comparable to Frye's size. You said he's not big enough to play the position, when he's bigger than a lot of the centers playing today. 6'11 and 250+ is big enough to play center in the NBA. At that to the fact that you cant teach speed, and he doesnt have it to play the 4. Frye has no problem playing physical. When given the chance he's better against guys he can bang a little against. Anyone with any quickness at all he sucks against, because he's afraid to put a hand out and get hit with a foul.

Frye was a center in HS. Frye was a center in college for four years. Frye is a center in the NBA playing out of position at the 4.

When Frye was drafted he said "I'm a center."

I guess I can believe Frye himself, or I can believe holfresh, who is clearly better informed.

Even your lover Isiah admitted it... where do you think he's going to play off the bench? Poing guard?

I'm pretty sure Duncan, JO'neil, KG, Dirk, etc were all centers on or at every level they played...I'm would bet they thought they would be centers at the NBA level as well...


Frye played center in HS and college. He's probably a center.

Frye is playing PF in the NBA...
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2/4/2007  7:02 PM
Posted by holfresh:

Frye is playing PF in the NBA...

yes, the only issue is that he's playing it very poorly.
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2/4/2007  7:18 PM

I wonder if Orlando and Brian Hill feels the same way...
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2/4/2007  7:20 PM
Frye is not a 4. The guys feet are too slow. Andrew said it before I could in this thread.

It comes down to who do you want: curry or frye.

I already started a poll on that cuz I'm a freakin genius!
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2/4/2007  7:23 PM

None of these guys are going anywhere...Get used to it...
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2/4/2007  7:27 PM
What's the over under on this experiment?
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2/4/2007  7:31 PM
Frye has been playing better lately period. It has nothing to do with starting or coming off the bench, center or PF. If you want to take yesterday's game as validation he should come off the bench because he played well, then wouldn't we have to look at all the games where he recently played well as a starter as evidence he should be starting?

Minutes and opportunity are more important than starts, though starts are important.

And Frye is not a center. He did not play as a center yesterday. Centers play near the basket. And there is a big difference between "playing center" and being played "at center".

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2/4/2007  8:07 PM
Just because a player plays center in college does not mean they are a center. Glen Robinson played center in college and became an excellent sf in the NBA.
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2/4/2007  8:15 PM

It really doesn't matter where the guy plays as long as he is effective where ever the coach ask him to play...The Lee faithful wants him traded so Lee can inherit the position all to himself...Does that make the team better, probably not...Getting rid of Frye would only make the Knicks need a new PF or center or whatever you want to call him...
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