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2/4/2007  10:43 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by islesfan:

Marbury accused the NBA of rigging the all star selections! Let us completely ignore it and instead ridicule the people who actually understand that what he said was completely out of line...because we have no social skills and people don't like us, no other reason!
wtf are you talking about ***hole? you completely dodged the issue but made no sense. Thats ok, you always have the racism card to use if you are being called out?

Silver, don't get worked up over NOTHING/NOBODY. He is just desperately trying to get me to pay some attention to him. He's been trying to do so for months, but he isn't worth my time. Since Bilefan is always trying so hard to get my attention it's obvious that I am constantly on his mind. Therefore I own him. Maybe one day he will learn a new trick besides just repeating what I write like a common parrot. How uncreative and boring.

It's funny that vilefan would write I have no social skills and say that people don't like me when he was recently boasting about "all the people that hate him." What a sad way to define one's self! This is a dude who since I coined UK Mafia back in November has been in at least 20 ugly exchanges that I know of, and has tried to start countless more. While I have been in zero such exchanges. -->Loser!<--

Now he will get all excited and post his usual garbage just hoping he will get some human contact from me. No such luck! Poor lil' fella will have to be lonely...

Since I own him maybe I should trade him for something of actual use or value, like a pog or perhaps some rubber bands. Are you interested? All offers will be considered!


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[Edited by - oohah on 04-02-2007 07:11 AM]

LMAO Awesome, I knew he couldn't hold out.

Silverfuel, that wasn't intended for you, I have the utmost respect for your opinions. It was meant for the idiot that likes to spew crap without backing it up. Here it's Marbury saying something out of line but instead of questioning what Marbury said, he's more interested in ridiculing the people who disagree with what Marbury said.

He's like the dumb little fish that keeps getting caught and tossed back. The fun is in hooking him because he's not worth keeping. Now excuse me while I re-bait.

[Edited by - islesfan on 02-04-2007 10:44 AM]
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2/4/2007  11:22 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
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If this was the only time Marbury said something that maybe he should've kept to himself, I'd probably agree with you. However, just this season you can probably find over 100 instances where Marbury opened his trap and all that came out was hot air. The dude needs to learn when to take the high road. You can't miss the high road on every opportunity and then expect to keep your credibility. That's all I'm saying.
You basically repeated yourself. Find me the 100 instances. You cant, because you are exaggerating. Same thing you are getting mad at Marbury for. I can understand you not liking his suggestions about the NBA being rigged but you back that up by exaggerating and saying something equally ridiculous.

And this is basically my point. Just because he has a history doesn't mean you should nit pick at everything, especially when he is doing that everyone does. Its wrong for sticking up for your team mate? What do you expect him to say? Seriously? What do you expect him to say? "No comment", "He doesn't belong there" or something else?
Marbury has some point, but again, Curry didn't deserve to make it, solely because of his terrible defense
You agree that its a popularity contest but the same time you talk about deserving to be there? Come on!
so I'm not sure what the real issue is.
I'm not sure either! People make a big deal out of everything Marbury says. Absolutely everything! The media asked him to comment on it and he did. Knowing him, I think he did pretty well.

Wow, how did you draw those conclusions based on what I said? I said that the fan voting is ridiculous but the coaches do a good job. Curry had 0 shot at starter this year, so how does that back up your point? As for saying 100. You're right, it's probably an exaggeration. But it's also such an obvious exaggeration that you're just nitpicking by pointing it out. As for saying that I'm not sure what the issue is, I mean with Marbury. If he picked someone who *deserved* to be in the all-star game, I'd agree with him. Curry didn't, and everyone, outside of 10 people on this board, the Knicks players and Knicks management, know that dominating in one area of the game, and being terrible in all others, won't get you to the all-star game. So, again, I repeat, why is this a big issue that Marbury has to bring it up? He can defend his own player without making a dumb accusation about the NBA. If you're going to make such an accusation, at least choose a player who deserves to go to the all-star game. And yes, Marbury's history preceeds him... and it's not a good one. That simple.
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2/4/2007  12:15 PM
Posted by Solace:

You're right, it's probably an exaggeration. But it's also such an obvious exaggeration that you're just nitpicking by pointing it out.
Probably and exaggeration? You have a problem with every single Marbury quote but you would never call someone out who stuck up for another team mate. Thats what nitpicking is. I'm pointing it out to you. How is what I am doing an obvious exaggeration? It is obvious that you are exaggerating. What Marbury said is no big deal!
As for saying that I'm not sure what the issue is, I mean with Marbury. If he picked someone who *deserved* to be in the all-star game, I'd agree with him. Curry didn't, and everyone, outside of 10 people on this board, the Knicks players and Knicks management, know that dominating in one area of the game, and being terrible in all others, won't get you to the all-star game.
This is where you are missing the point. I am not arguing Curry should make the All Star team. I don't care about the All Star game. I'm saying it is a team mates job to stick up for another team mate. Thats what Allan Houston did. Do you remember when the 4 Piston starters except for Tayshaun made it? Every single person on that team including the coach complained. They wanted Tayshaun over Lebron, Pierce, Artest etc. They were not wrong in doing that. Its what good team mates do!
So, again, I repeat, why is this a big issue that Marbury has to bring it up?
Are u being serious? Marbury brought it up? Do you know how the media works? They go and ask everyone for a comment. Marbury didn't call a press conference to bring this up! Take it easy with the accusations. Marbury didn't bring it up.
He can defend his own player without making a dumb accusation about the NBA.
That I can agree with. He didn't have to accuse the NBA but you know what, it barely matters. Its not a comment that will come to harm us in anyway. You know why? Because no one cares except a few posters on this forum.
If you're going to make such an accusation, at least choose a player who deserves to go to the all-star game. And yes, Marbury's history preceeds him... and it's not a good one. That simple.
First off, the media chose the player and went to talk to Marbury about him. Second, why does he have to choose the player? Just to please you? You still only single out Marbury. Its his job to defend his center. When they ask him, hey what do you think about Curry not making it, he is supposed to something like he said. He doesn't have to blame the NBA but even if he did, it does no damage whatsoever. Show me someone that was pissed by his comment that will lose us games?

Now if he said something like, Dwight or Jermaine does not belong there, thats a different story. Hope that is clear!
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2/4/2007  12:30 PM
I have no problem with what marbury said. He is sticking up for curry. I do find it odd that nash and dirk can't start, yet T-Wack can? and i don't want to hear that curry doesn't rebound or defend. nash, dirk, a lot of these guys in the allstar game because they are gifted scores, exciting offensive players, and highlight reels. outside of yao ming, curry is the best offensive center in the league and it is no contest, the allstar game is entertainment and offense entertains. curry should have been on that team, but that is Ok, now he needs to go out and work on the other facets of the game and play like he has a chip on his shoulder..
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2/4/2007  12:35 PM
Posted by tkf:

I have no problem with what marbury said. He is sticking up for curry. I do find it odd that nash and dirk can't start, yet T-Wack can? and i don't want to hear that curry doesn't rebound or defend. nash, dirk, a lot of these guys in the allstar game because they are gifted scores, exciting offensive players, and highlight reels. outside of yao ming, curry is the best offensive center in the league and it is no contest, the allstar game is entertainment and offense entertains. curry should have been on that team, but that is Ok, now he needs to go out and work on the other facets of the game and play like he has a chip on his shoulder..
Excellent post tkf. People are creating threads etc only because its Marbury. The reporter asked him about Curry so he told them. I'm actually glad he isn't going so that he can rest. Same with Stephon. They need it! And I agree he has to use it as motivation. Something positive can come out of it.
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2/4/2007  12:38 PM
I love the fact that Marbury is not afraid to speak his mind.

Isn't that why we love Charles Barkley?
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2/4/2007  12:38 PM
and where is Carmelo?
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2/4/2007  12:39 PM
Posted by misterearl:

and where is Carmelo?

I think he's still running away from when he threw that punch.
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2/4/2007  12:39 PM
Marbury speaks up and Curry goes off against the American Idol in Orlando.

Coincidence or fact?
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2/4/2007  12:40 PM
nyk4ever - your best line of the month

well done

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2/5/2007  1:16 AM
Silver, plain and simple, Marbury opens his big trap time and time again. If I never him utter another word it would still be too much. Many people feel this way. He's playing better the past few months, great. If a player with some credibility brought up conspiracy theories, it might be worth an initial listen. Marbury has so little credibility that nobody takes him seriously. Nobody is making a big deal because Marbury says dumb things on a daily basis. The point stands that the guy needs to shut up. Defend his player, fine. Make conspiracy theories, nobody cares... BECAUSE of the source.
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2/5/2007  5:47 AM
Posted by Solace:

Silver, plain and simple, Marbury opens his big trap time and time again. If I never him utter another word it would still be too much. Many people feel this way. He's playing better the past few months, great. If a player with some credibility brought up conspiracy theories, it might be worth an initial listen. Marbury has so little credibility that nobody takes him seriously. Nobody is making a big deal because Marbury says dumb things on a daily basis. The point stands that the guy needs to shut up. Defend his player, fine. Make conspiracy theories, nobody cares... BECAUSE of the source.
What is the problem if nobody cares? You are making my point for me. You said it yourself, nobody cares? So then whats the big deal? Why not just let it go? 90% of the people focus on the positive (i.e: sticking up for eddy) Marbury said and are happy with it. The other 10% focus on one thing that in your own words nobody cares about and starting their usual bitching even though nobody cares. Why? Just because you don't like Marbury doesn't mean everything he says is a disaster. Thats plain and simple right?
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2/5/2007  7:12 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

Silver, plain and simple, Marbury opens his big trap time and time again. If I never him utter another word it would still be too much. Many people feel this way. He's playing better the past few months, great. If a player with some credibility brought up conspiracy theories, it might be worth an initial listen. Marbury has so little credibility that nobody takes him seriously. Nobody is making a big deal because Marbury says dumb things on a daily basis. The point stands that the guy needs to shut up. Defend his player, fine. Make conspiracy theories, nobody cares... BECAUSE of the source.
What is the problem if nobody cares? You are making my point for me. You said it yourself, nobody cares? So then whats the big deal? Why not just let it go? 90% of the people focus on the positive (i.e: sticking up for eddy) Marbury said and are happy with it. The other 10% focus on one thing that in your own words nobody cares about and starting their usual bitching even though nobody cares. Why? Just because you don't like Marbury doesn't mean everything he says is a disaster. Thats plain and simple right?

To be honest, I think our views are pretty close. As for me not letting go, I'd be happy to let it go. I've only been posting in this thread responding to you. I didn't make the thread and when I saw the news on RealGM for the first time I didn't even read the article because I knew Marbury said it. I have no problem with him sticking up for his own player, but like I said, if you're going to stick up for your own player, don't be an idiot about it and make a blind accusation about the NBA and use a player who doesn't deserve to make the all-star game as the example to prove your point. That's broken logic. Marbury should just play the game and keep quiet because he has no credibility; and his lack of credibility is the only reason that most aren't making a big deal out of this. If the words came from say, LeBron James, people would listen.

But you're right, it's not a big deal. This will all be forgetten until Marbury makes another dumb statement to the media within the next week. See you then.

[Edited by - Solace on Feb 05 2007 07:14 AM]
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2/5/2007  9:12 AM
Posted by Solace:

That's broken logic.
Its not broken logic, its someone exaggerating. Its not broken logic when Cuban, Riely etc say it. He should not exaggerate. Did you read Magic Johnson's take on this? He said the coaching fraternity are banding against Isiah for firing LB. Thats also an exaggeration.
Marbury should just play the game and keep quiet because he has no credibility; and his lack of credibility is the only reason that most aren't making a big deal out of this.
Magic Johnson has a lot of credibility. He questioned the selection process and no one made a big deal out of it. How is it that your post does not apply for Magic? Its not convenient right? What Marbury said was no big deal either.

I agree he shouldn't talk much to the media and thats what he has been doing. The media came to him and asked him to comment! What he said it not a big deal so I am not going to get on him for that. He was sticking up for his center and he exaggerated. If thats the worst it gets, we are getting off easy.

You are really nitpicking here. You are mad cause Marbury said the all star selection process is broken! Thats exactly what magic said. Its not a big deal.
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2/5/2007  9:46 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

That's broken logic.
Its not broken logic, its someone exaggerating. Its not broken logic when Cuban, Riely etc say it. He should not exaggerate. Did you read Magic Johnson's take on this? He said the coaching fraternity are banding against Isiah for firing LB. Thats also an exaggeration.
Marbury should just play the game and keep quiet because he has no credibility; and his lack of credibility is the only reason that most aren't making a big deal out of this.
Magic Johnson has a lot of credibility. He questioned the selection process and no one made a big deal out of it. How is it that your post does not apply for Magic? Its not convenient right? What Marbury said was no big deal either.

I agree he shouldn't talk much to the media and thats what he has been doing. The media came to him and asked him to comment! What he said it not a big deal so I am not going to get on him for that. He was sticking up for his center and he exaggerated. If thats the worst it gets, we are getting off easy.

You are really nitpicking here. You are mad cause Marbury said the all star selection process is broken! Thats exactly what magic said. Its not a big deal.

I don't think you really disagreed with me. You said I was nitpicking and angry, yet pretty much reiterated what I've been saying the entire post. Do you agree Magic has credibility? Do you agree that Marbury doesn't, because he always has something to complain about? I think you did. So, I think other than you misreading me on a topic that I don't care that much about, I think our views are pretty close. Magic was a good example. If Magic says it, he may have a point. Marbury may have a point too, but frankly, most of us are so tired of hearing him talk that we don't want to listen to it.

Again, if Eddy Curry is going to be the example of a player who got jipped for the all-star game, I don't think there's much of a case there. The players who should be starting and aren't (there's a good number) are the ones who have good cases, but that one is more an issue of the fan's voting. The reserves are done decently, though not perfectly.

I think the only thing you disagree with is my right to discuss the topic, which ironically has been purely just in response to your misunderstandings of my intentions -- you've repeatedly put words in my mouth of things I didn't say, including insituating that *I'm* angry and *I'm* nitpicking. I'm not; you keep striking back by claiming you're disagreeing with me, yet we're saying pretty close to the same thing. I certainly believe I have the right to respond to *your* post. I am sorry if that disturbs you.
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2/5/2007  10:54 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Solace:

That's broken logic.
Its not broken logic, its someone exaggerating. Its not broken logic when Cuban, Riely etc say it. He should not exaggerate. Did you read Magic Johnson's take on this? He said the coaching fraternity are banding against Isiah for firing LB. Thats also an exaggeration.
Marbury should just play the game and keep quiet because he has no credibility; and his lack of credibility is the only reason that most aren't making a big deal out of this.
Magic Johnson has a lot of credibility. He questioned the selection process and no one made a big deal out of it. How is it that your post does not apply for Magic? Its not convenient right? What Marbury said was no big deal either.

I agree he shouldn't talk much to the media and thats what he has been doing. The media came to him and asked him to comment! What he said it not a big deal so I am not going to get on him for that. He was sticking up for his center and he exaggerated. If thats the worst it gets, we are getting off easy.

You are really nitpicking here. You are mad cause Marbury said the all star selection process is broken! Thats exactly what magic said. Its not a big deal.
I don't think you really disagreed with me. You said I was nitpicking and angry, yet pretty much reiterated what I've been saying the entire post. Do you agree Magic has credibility? Do you agree that Marbury doesn't, because he always has something to complain about? I think you did. So, I think other than you misreading me on a topic that I don't care that much about, I think our views are pretty close. Magic was a good example. If Magic says it, he may have a point. Marbury may have a point too, but frankly, most of us are so tired of hearing him talk that we don't want to listen to it.

Again, if Eddy Curry is going to be the example of a player who got jipped for the all-star game, I don't think there's much of a case there. The players who should be starting and aren't (there's a good number) are the ones who have good cases, but that one is more an issue of the fan's voting. The reserves are done decently, though not perfectly.

I think the only thing you disagree with is my right to discuss the topic, which ironically has been purely just in response to your misunderstandings of my intentions -- you've repeatedly put words in my mouth of things I didn't say, including insituating that *I'm* angry and *I'm* nitpicking. I'm not; you keep striking back by claiming you're disagreeing with me, yet we're saying pretty close to the same thing. I certainly believe I have the right to respond to *your* post. I am sorry if that disturbs you.
I don't know what all the ** mean so please explain. The part where I am disagreeing with you on is how much damage Marbury's comments made. None! You said it yourself. No big deal. Why did you make it sound like a big deal then? As long as he is not saying stuff thats going to harm us, who cares? You said you are tired are hearing him talk right? Why not just ignore him then? Is it because you like to bitch about him?
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I forgot to mention that your right to respond does not disturb me but why are you putting * before and after words?
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2/5/2007  10:59 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

I don't know what all the ** mean so please explain. The part where I am disagreeing with you on is how much damage Marbury's comments made. None! You said it yourself. No big deal. Why did you make it sound like a big deal then? As long as he is not saying stuff thats going to harm us, who cares? You said you are tired are hearing him talk right? Why not just ignore him then? Is it because you like to bitch about him?

The *'s are for emphasis. I don't think this is a big deal. That's what I said, we're probably not disagreeing. I think we're just talking in circles to try to understand that the other person has a similar opinion. I think the overall conclusion is that Marbury opens his mouth too much and has pretty much lost his credibility. If you agree with that, then I think we pretty much agree. If you're implying that I'm saying more than that, then we've gone on for 20 posts with you still reading way more into this than anything I've said. Maybe you're doing that on purpose to see how many times I respond to a topic I don't really care about. Prankster.
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Actually what I think this is, is that Silver is frustrated with the "haters". Your responses have nothing to do with Marbury, but more with your frustration with us. I'm sorry for frustrating you. I'll make a separate topic about this so we stop cluttering this one.
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Posted by Solace:

I think the overall conclusion is that Marbury opens his mouth too much and has pretty much lost his credibility.
1) What you just said and what you said earlier in the thread says has nothing to do with each other. You said Marbury should shut up right? Why should he shut up when someone asks him to stick up for his center? Missing the point of the thread aren't you?
2) Marbury does not open is mouth too much. The problem is when he says stuff, it usually comes back to haunt him and the Knicks. He shouldn't say much unless someone is calling him or his team mates out. In this case, I have no problem with him questioning the selection process because he is basically sticking up for his center.
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